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Google Stadia is reportedly shutting down

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mckmas8808

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Just further proves that their business model is terrible. Imagine buying games on Stadia when there's always a very real possibility of it shutting down.

Also goes to prove that a streaming-only console generation wouldn't be a smart thing for these corporations to look into.
 

Rambone

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I enjoyed it, mostly as a novelty.

Just some thoughts:
+ Enjoyed being able to play games on my PC and TV with the same controller wirelessly. Just enter a button combination on the controller and it syncs.
+ Stadia performed and looked better than its competition. Amazon Luna is just wank.
+ I like cloud gaming as my PC and consoles tend to generate a lot of heat and noise. None of these cons with just a little chromecast puck or streaming over a browser.
+ I like the whole idea of playing games without having to install them, just stream and go. Xcloud is great for this reason, lets me try games I would probably have never touched. This feature is really appreciated on my Xbox Series S since space is hard to come by, so I stream when I can and often.
- On occasion Google will pair me with a data center that is too far away from me causing additional latency which might kill 4k streaming w/ HDR.
- Stadia servers are getting a bit dated and in need of an upgrade. No raytracing and some games are still 30 FPS on 4K.
- HDR not compatible with my Nvidia Shield
- Games were generally more expensive than their PC and Console ports. For awhile there were fewer sales.
- Not many games making it to the platform.
- Multiplayer is a ghost town more often than not.

I think Stadia could have had some staying power but lacking dedicated studios making games for them, not having as many games release day and date that we get on PC or console really keep me from taking it seriously. I will not be buying any games on Stadia anytime soon but I do have a sub as they offer enough free games to keep me interested in using it.
 

Stuart360

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Also goes to prove that a streaming-only console generation wouldn't be a smart thing for these corporations to look into.
At this moment in time, probably. But if MS and Sony both produced streaming only devices next gen, people would have no choice.
Its different now with Stadia as there are other options for gamers.
 

DeepEnigma

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Good Luck Charlie Idk GIF
 

clem84

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They should gift Steam/GOG/EGS licenses if they want to exit without people hesitating to ever sign up for anything they do going forward.
This would be very nice of them, but it would cost them some of the revenue they've seen in the last 3 years. I'm not sure what were their operating costs during those years but I suspect it wasn't cheap.
 
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Fredrik

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This would be very nice of them, but it would cost them some of the revenue they've seen in the last 3 years. I'm not sure what were their operating costs during those years but I suspect it wasn't cheap.
It’ll cost them PR and customer loyalty if they don’t do it. Would I subscribe to another service from then if I feel like I got ripped off this time? Not likely.
 

GymWolf

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So this is why i received an email from google stadia today, i almost forgot that i used stadia to play the demo of fenix.
 

Fredrik

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I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft made a deal with Google to use the stadia technology. In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft straight up bought it off them. Google said they were going to sell Stadia (tech) to companies to use with their own products. So someone could license it and slap their own brand on it.
I don’t see why MS would do, they already have their own streaming tech, hardware and server infrastructure.
 
Surprise surprise. Google are amazing at giving projects the green light, barely supporting them and then just closing them down.

Any potential competition for console hardware should focus on growing a few new gaming IPs first and then creating hardware, not just building hardware and then expecting it to be successful.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I bought a couple of games on Stadia, and subscribed for a few months here and there to play a few of their free Pro games.

The biggest loss to me personally will be not having the ability to stream The Elder Scrolls Online. Every once in a while I'll get a notion to play the game, but locally it takes up about 200GB - so I usually delete it after a while of not playing it when the notion passes. The last few cycles of this, I've just streamed the game from Stadia where it doesn't take half a day to install. If I end up playing it for more than a week, I'll start downloading it from Steam. Sometimes I'll even keep playing on Stadia while it's downloading, and when it's done I'll log off Stadia and on to my local Steam copy, which is pretty smooth.

Also, similar to Game Pass, their new "play for x minutes free" thing is usually a pretty good way to demo a game without having to buy or install it.

All that being said - overall it won't really be missed. Outside of a few edge case uses for me personally, it doesn't do a whole lot to fill any particular niche, and it never garnered much mainstream appeal.
 

Topher

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Yes, but Microsoft will open up xCloud to every game you own at some point.

I certainly hope so. I'm sure Nvidia will be trying to do the same thing. It is still up to the publisher to allow their game on either service. I just hope we don't go down the road of streaming exclusives and streaming wars.

And they will lose, because of that mile of legal jargon they collectively agreed to, but never read at the beginning of the signup.

True, but all that legal jargon doesn't mean a thing unless a court says it does.
 
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mckmas8808

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Well i'm already there, but its not a realstic option for most of the masses, especially the more casual masses.

I think it's more a realistic option for the masses "IF" both Sony and MS go with a streaming-only console generation with the PS6\Xbox5. But there's literally no way Sony would go with a streaming-only console generation with MS at the same time. It's not in their business model to do so. Sony is a hardware company through and through.
 

Stuart360

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I think it's more a realistic option for the masses "IF" both Sony and MS go with a streaming-only console generation with the PS6\Xbox5. But there's literally no way Sony would go with a streaming-only console generation with MS at the same time. It's not in their business model to do so. Sony is a hardware company through and through.
Oh dont get me wrong, i'm not saying Xbox 5/PS6 will be streaming devices. I believe there will be at least one more console gen before one or both go streaming oinly, maybe two more gens.
 
Did they even do the "jump in through YouTube" thing or was that a false promise? Because I haven't seen one gaming youtuber place a Stadia link so that viewers can join a game. Also, didn't the guy they chose to run the program literally say he hated video games or am I misremembering?
 
That really felt like a glorified Ponzi scheme. You paid for the service, then paid for the games. Service that barely had any positives from both streaming or local play, and all the negatives. Gets shut down like a fart in the wind. It was all written on the wall the moment Google brought fucking Phil Harrison to be by the wheels of said project.
 

Greirat

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I don't like the idea of everything being controlled by some remote server. It completely kills modding and stops games being preserved once publishers abandon them. Happy to see this platform die off.
 

Desless1

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Nowhere. There is no demand for a streaming-only service. Everything Stadia and xCloud is doing, Sony already did in 2014-2018 with PS Now.
Maybe, then again maybe not. 2014 is eight years back in time for the IT and technology world, it's an extremely long time tech wise. There is demand for streaming only services (All music and movie services showed that), maybe games just takes a bit longer to take off (maybe the users are way to reluctant to change?). Some of them are bound to find a new service, and some will just drop it all.

But from a statistic point of view, it would be very interesting to see where and where not they would end up.
 

LordCBH

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LMAO all y’all muthafuckas on the internet called me names when I said it would be added to the Killed by Google list back before it came out of beta.


Who is your god now
 

M16

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There was a report a few years back that Google Cloud had until 2023 to gain a certain marketshare or else the company was going to nix it. It seems that's what's going to be happening, and stadia is part of the cloud business side.

edit: here it is


The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Amazon or Microsoft—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding

That timeline was devised early last year, after an intense monthslong debate among senior leaders at Google and its parent company Alphabet over the future of the cloud business
 
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Fredrik

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Nowhere. There is no demand for a streaming-only service. Everything Stadia and xCloud is doing, Sony already did in 2014-2018 with PS Now.
The streaming on PS Now is terrible compared to Stadia, can’t really be compared at all, everything look like a grainy mess. And I couldn’t even use it while waiting to download a game since the cloud save didn’t work as intended, had so start over once the game was installed.
It was great to use to get PS+ Premium cheaper though! 👍
 

Murdoch

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It looks like Playstation is going down the same route and shutting before the end of the year as well 😬

I think Nintendo are going to kick on from here and really have a monopoly on the entire market. Unless, of course; Apple join the fray and then everyone is basically fucked. Gaming as we know it is going to change before Christmas 😮
 
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Miyazaki’s Slave

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We have one of these threads every other month.

Resistance is futile...streaming is the way.

I have an enormous physical collection of console and pc games. I also have a giant digital collection (with a ton of duplicates) of console and pc games. I have learned in my old age to go with the flow....give in children...EMBRACE the streaming future.

I also sub to: Geforce Now (RTX 3080 level), PS Ultra Super Premium Edition (or whatever it is called), Game Pass Ultimate, Stadia, Luna, Netflix.

My tier list (streaming quality) (1.5 gb/s fiber up and down and 5G cell coverage)
S+ - Geforce now
S - Luna, Stadia
A - PS, Game Pass
B
C
D - Netflix
 
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Belthazar

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They probably put it somewhere in a pages long document that I just clicked ‘Agreed’ on and didn’t read at all that they can shut down whenever they want and give me nothing but a middle finger as compensation.

User Agreements don't override legislation and consumer rights on most countries, especially when they have clauses that put one side at a measurable disadvantage. This even holds truth for signed contracts, if a clause or the contract is considered leonine the clause or the entire contract can very well be anulled in court.

I don't know how it is in the US (probably awful, as everything else regarding consumer protection), but the rest of the civilized world is very different.
 

kraspkibble

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It might work to a certain degree, but it will never replace it.

As for Onlive.

maybe not completely but i'm sure people said the same about music/movie streaming. game streaming will improve over time and it will be "good enough" for the average consumer. local gaming will exist for enthusiasts just like vinyl/bluray exists for music/movie enthusiasts.

and yeah i know what onlive is lol. it was insignificant. offerings from Sony/MS/Nvidia and even Google were far better than that trash.
 
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