So all these people buying Xboxes are going to abandon the ecosystem once PS5s are more readily available? What an idiotic take. Every Xbox sold where a PS5 is not brings the install base closer together. That means everything.
Maybe he should do it since its a great accomplishment. Same thing applies for Xbox and NA as it is now.
I believe the opposite, right now it’s decent but it’s going to be more difficult around October because of higher demand.
Are you suggesting that all those people that have bought an XsS that will eventually get to buy a PS5 in NA are going to buy 4TF versions of games instead of 10TF in the future?
Microsoft can make more Xbox’s than Sony can make PS5’s. Having 2 versions helps with this.Xbox always on shelves, ps5 always sold out.
I think guidance changes next quarter. They are obviously going to miss that number.
The Horizon Bundle has been in stock for the past few days now pretty consistently. This isn't a thing anymore.Xbox always on shelves, ps5 always sold out.
Yep
They are even planning a cheaper alternative . Like a USB stick that you plug to TV and play games. Or like the recent Samsung TV Xbox app. MS. Will release various options for you to play Xbox games using Xbox game pass/ cloud. Not just 2skus
Well if they had they would have sold more PS5 consoles. It's that simple. The Series S is the reason the Series consoles have sold as well as they have. Sony is struggling to manufacture enough PS5 consoles. The discless version is not any easier to manufacture, certainly not like the Series S. A Series S type of PS5 would have done wonders.
The 3DS, 2DS, new 3DS and 3DS XL had different abilities but they were still part of the same generation.
PS5 is currently second to Switch in Europe. That could change in the future.
It's still the second highest Q4 for Xbox. So not as good as last year but still a good result for them.
I know a couple of people now who could not find a PS5 and bought Series S instead simply because it was in stock and they couldn't be happier
Your own quote literally says Series X, are you doing any reading at all? I never said anything about the S in that quote.
Yeah that's a good point about VR. A lower powered console might not be able to support it. But I still question PSVR and it's viability. I'm not confident Sony can grow that market and make it profitable. Their resources imo are better spent elsewhere. VR has been on the market for years now and it's still extremely niche. The best selling VR headset has been relatively cheap (soon to be more expensive which is likely to be detrimental to its continued success) while PSVR2 will have a HUGE barrier to entry. $500 PS5 and then a headset that is going to cost probably at minimum $400. So $900 all in to play PSVR2. I don't see a huge market for that. But that's an argument for another thread.
This never happened.
How are they supposed to sell you storage cards if you have 1TB?
I wanted an HD console with clear graphics and Gears of War or Ratchet Tools of Destruction, but I decided to get a white Gamecube rectangle with jaggies and waggle stick for $50-$100 less with games I have no interest in because it was all that was there.
Ths has actually been going on since 2008 starting with PS3/360
But that is an oxymoron, no? because they wouldn't be PlayStation 5's. I also suspect the XsS was actually meant to be the low, PS5 to be mid, and XsX to be high tier for the gen - with Xbox expecting 8TF from PS5 - only to find that it was 10.3TF/s, and not just a regular 10TF, but one with vastly more pixel-rate than their XsX, and efficiency with smartsnift and their new paradigm pro-active deterministic fixed power variable clock system, that regular sees the PS5 trade blows easily with the XsX in these - native, but - still cross-gen software times.
Is this another attempt to claim the XSS isn’t a next gen console?
Genuine question, how does the XsS in a household where a gamer has both an XsS and PS5 only, compete for Microsoft - in a next-gen way - for sales of mutliplatform game's licensing money - where games have price parity, and aren't part of a marketing deal with exclusive content or on PS+/gamepass?
Has a game Sony ever had a big marketing deal with ever gone to gamepass day 1?
It’s a fucking next gen system. This is absolute bullshit.
PaintTinJr
it's not always that linear. I had a PS4 and a X1 last gen and purchased all my third party games on Xbox, regardless of the 50% performance advantage. For me, Xbox was just the superior ecosystem that I felt would better serve my digital purchases over the long haul (across multiple generations). PS was just an exclusives box for me, nothing more, nothing less. Peoples opinions can be based on a lot of different things. The target buyer for XSS probably isn't the buyer that's playing across all consoles (If you are going to drop a grand on PS+XSS+Switch you might as well spend the extra $200) but the budget player that will only have the one device and doesn't want to spend $500. For others, maybe they like the small size. This is an old survey, but I'm sure even today the number of players with just a single console is far greater than many think. https://www.gamedeveloper.com/pc/npd-72-of-u-s-plays-games-only-2-3-own-multiple-consoles
What does that have to do with anything lol.
No he said that these sales were meaningless, which they clearly are not. Try again.
I don't get your angle of not wanting to counter my point. An easy rebuttal would have been that "the market decides!", and in NA - as it stands - they've decided it is exactly as Xbox have stated, that it is a next-gen system.
It has nothing to do with the market. It’s a next-gen system.
Xbox success obviously has your jimmies rustled.
I don't think Xbox themselves would agree with that, but if you are attached to how it is marketed, that's fine...however there's a slight double standard in the marketing, no? They don't believe in generations, so it could be next-next-gen too,, but now take issue with anyone like myself that disagrees with them, and says it doesn't meet my criteria to be a next-gen system for me - or my vision of the games market's next-gen.
Stop bullshit. Seriously. It’s a next-gen console.
We have examples of all the current platform holders in the past - and ones that have left and amazon, etc - where the market has told them no, or forced them to change their stance. Xbox most recently in the previous gen had to ditch X1's DRM, they had to ditch their mandatory pack-in kinect because the market said no.
CatLady
's benefit, I'm obviously referring to my view of next-gen with the word "viable" implicit in there, which as you say, they've released it as a (genless) next-gen system, so wikipedia in years to come will always refer to it as part of this gen.
It’s a next gen system because it has the same CPU and RNDA2 GPU as the Series X.
