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The Last of Us Part I Rebuilt for PS5 - Features and Gameplay Trailer
DenchDeckard
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We all know it will be effing great, I just think we need to send the message to Sony that 70 squid is not OK for this.
JerryinSoCal
Member
I agree $70 is steep considering it's a remake and not a brand new title, yes the graphics are all new but when it comes to story and the core experience it's the same. That being said anyone who thought they were going to make it play like TLOU2 which they NEVER said they were going to do jumped to conclusions based on some very vague comments during the reveal and it's their own fault that they are disappointed. Gamers need to stop acting like 5 year old children on message boards and social media, we talk crap about devs being whiney jerks (rightfully so) but it's pretty obvious that gamers themselves are often just as bad even if it's in different ways.
Nobody said they were going to add prone, dodge or jump and why would they? It's a remake of TLOU not a reimagining, the levels in this game are much smaller than the first one and the path is defined already, it's already been designed so that you can go to all of the places they want you to be able to go and adding jump would be useless since they'd just have to add obstacles to block off all of the places you couldn't get to before anyway. How would going prone have helped? there aren't any large areas covered in tall grass that you need to hide in, that was all worked into the level design in TLOU2. This is a remake of TLOU and the stuff you are talking about doing would basically be making it a totally different game in many ways which would mean this would be far more than a remake. They added some small things that make sense from TLOU2 but this isn't supposed to be a totally different experience and it has never been advertised as that.
Anyone who calls this a remaster is clearly speaking from a place of ignorance or is trolling, they either don't know what the word remaster means, or they are just being a jerk lol. We already had a remaster, this blows it away visually and it should. It's an 8-year-old remaster of a 9-year-old game and as much as I love the game (my fav story driven game of all time) the remaster looks pretty bad compared to this. This is likely being made mostly so they can sell both games in the series on PC, it would be a rough sell asking PC players to buy an 8-year-old remaster but a new modern version that is also available for PS5 owners IF they wish to buy the upgraded version is a win/win. Yes, I wish it was cheaper, but nobody is forcing me to buy it either.
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GametimeUK
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I'm struggling to understand how people say £70 for this game is bad, yet Demons Soul's remake at £70 is acceptable. Both are PS3 games with basically the assets reworked.
Is it just perceived worse for TLOU because it got a remaster last gen, or is there something I'm overlooking?
Is it just perceived worse for TLOU because it got a remaster last gen, or is there something I'm overlooking?
Ellery
Member
Nope. You hit the nail on the head. And in addition to that TLOU is planned as a PC release as well whereas Demon's Souls (as of today) isn't.
TLOU Remake on PC should excite a lot of people. I find it funny that some people think that TLOU Remake on PC is completely justified, but it isn't on PS5.
Daneel Elijah
Gold Member
TLOU already had a PS4 remaster so the gap is not as large. And the TLOU remaster is not like Demon souls, who changed a lot from the PS3 version(new music among others things). It would be like the dark souls 1 on PS3 that got a PS4 remastered edition to have a PS5 version. Personaly that is enough for a day one purchase but I understand that for others it is not worth it. Demon Souls is also a launch title and showcase the PS5 power when the TLOU remastered seem to be just a TLOU remade with the TLOU2 engine. Just hope that it will as fun as I remembered it. Better to have TLOU remastered than no game only made to PS5 on september.
Ellery
Member
Well yeah the TLOU Remaster is more like an accessibility version for the PS4. It can't be compared to the Demon's Souls PS5 game, which was a very faithful Remake of the PS3 game. Mostly they changed the graphics with Demon's Souls. The same is true for The Last of Us Part 1 for PS5. It is mostly a gigantic graphical update with a few changes that Sony detailed in various blogposts and videos (and for the final discussion regarding what exactly changed in the game we will have to wait for reviews and experience it ourselves).
No idea why people are so adamant about moving the goalpost with Naughty Dog games ever since Druckmann took over.
DForce
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Yeah, I don't think PS4's TLOU would've performed well if it was ported to PC. This Remaster/Remake has a much better shot at being successful.
As far as updating the mechanics go, I'm assuming they didn't want to make the gameplay better or the same as TLOU 2 because it would be a very similar gameplay experience. If TLOU 2 Director's Cut version is in fact being released on PC, then they're going to need both games to feel different.
So after watching the new trailer, I think they did in fact modernize the gameplay while sticking to some of the core gameplay mechanics.
As far as updating the mechanics go, I'm assuming they didn't want to make the gameplay better or the same as TLOU 2 because it would be a very similar gameplay experience. If TLOU 2 Director's Cut version is in fact being released on PC, then they're going to need both games to feel different.
So after watching the new trailer, I think they did in fact modernize the gameplay while sticking to some of the core gameplay mechanics.
GametimeUK
Member
TLOU Remastered should have nothing to do with how much the Remake on PS5 has upgraded the original game. It has 0 to do with how much effort went in to remaking the game on PS5. I just think it's messed with people's perception.
TLOU on PS5 just like Demon's Souls is mostly a massive graphical overhaul to bring a PS3 game up to PS5 standards.
I guess we won't know the full story unless we seen the budgets for both games which one is more worthy of the £70 if we are strictly talking effort and budget converted to final game price. I do think people are being hypocritical regarding this TLOU Remake.
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Ellery
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Very good point. It would've looked outdated compared to all the native PS4 games that Sony brought to PC over the years : Horizon, God of War, Death Stranding, Uncharted 4 + TLL, Days Gone and soon Spiderman.
People tend to forget TLOU is a native PS3 game and even though it looked otherworldly good on PS3 it has clearly aged over the years and a PC version on the remake is a much better "advertisement" for Sony when bringing this to PC.
DenchDeckard
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Demons souls was years old and 70 pounds was too much for that, but it's strange what people will accept for launch day of a new console.
I personally think 70 pounds is too much for any game and I've been quite vocal about it. I haven't paid 70 for one game on ps5.
My issue is that the game isn't that old, has already been remastered and its missing the huge online part that the original and remake releases had.
It's not the like for like product remaster....and I don't think its worth 70 at all.
Daneel Elijah
Gold Member
The question is what would be the difference between the PS5 version we will be getting with a ps4 version of it. This is why I compared it to the dark souls 1 remastered. I believe that a good remaster of TLOU could have been made on PS4. I don't know about other people but for me it will be a day one purchase anyway. If you still do not see why some people can be unhappy about that compare it to GTA 5, who had a PS3, PS4 and now a PS5 upgrade coming( or already there I honestly forgot)
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3liteDragon
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It's a remake, if anything other than just the graphics are changed, it becomes a remake. This isn't that hard to figure out, TLOU 2014 is an example of a remaster.
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CosmicComet
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Demon's Souls is one of the best looking PS5 games out there and it looks completely different from its 2009 counterpart.
TLOU part 1 could literally be done on the PS4. Honestly in some ways I prefer the original's artstyle in spots especially Tess. It's in a weird limbo between a typical upres remaster and a remake.
At any rate, its unimpressive for its $70 tag.
Lol @ "massive graphical overhaul" for TLOU part1 over the OG.
Demon's Souls PS5 yes, it was massive graphical overhaul over a low budget 2009 game and it's one of the best looking PS5 games by far still despite being a launch title.
TLOU part 1 can literally be done on a PS4. It is not turning heads whatsoever, that's why there is so much push back and meme comparisons over the deceptive marketing. "Night and Day" difference. Lol.
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Topher
Gold Member
Yeah, I have no qualms with ND calling this a remake. It certainly is. I think they used poor messaging as far as the gameplay is concerned. I think the price is too high for what it is for most people, but that is subjective. I've decided I'm still buying it because I really want to play this game again and I'm looking forward to the PS5 enhancements. Having said that, I can also understand why folks are upset with ND on how they have portrayed this. I was certainly wrong about what they were doing with this game, but after some reflection.....I'm over it. Not worth all this fuss.
MidGenRefresh
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Perspective. This was called a remaster and was sold for $40 / £35.
Ass of Can Whooping
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We're more impressed with the Demon's Souls remake because the original looks like shit. That doesn't mean the overhaul for Part 1 somehow took less work than Demon Souls.
I'll shit on Naughty Dog for this all day long, but get your argument in order first. They've completely rebuilt Tess's model. That's a remake, not a fucking upres.
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Topher
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MidGenRefresh
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Who's they? If you watch the video it's clear after the first 5 seconds of game footage that it was completely rebuild.
Topher
Gold Member
Activision.
"Call of Duty®4: Modern Warfare®, is back, remastered in true high-definition, featuring enhanced textures, rendering, high-dynamic range lighting, and much more to bring a new generation experience to fans."
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered
One of the most critically-acclaimed game in history is back!
CosmicComet
Member
Speak for your god damn self.
I'm more impressed by Demons Souls because it's one of the top 3 best looking games out right now. It's a PS5 game through and through.
TLOU Part 1 is a PS4 game artificially stuck exclusively to PS5 to give it a prestige it does not garner on its own.
It looks flat out shit in some of the footage we saw and garners absolutely no "night and day" difference when juxtaposed with OG footage. More like... sunrise vs mid morning at best.
It's not an upres remaster, i said that, but it definitely is not impressive enough to be called a remake the way Shadow of The Colossus and Demon's Souls are.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
It's a remake. Your feelings are irrelevent.
The fact that you bring up SoTC proves my point even more. You're justifying your argument based on how it compares to the original
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MidGenRefresh
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Activision.
"Call of Duty®4: Modern Warfare®, is back, remastered in true high-definition, featuring enhanced textures, rendering, high-dynamic range lighting, and much more to bring a new generation experience to fans."
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered
One of the most critically-acclaimed game in history is back!www.callofduty.com
Enhanced can mean a lot of things. Every texture is completely new. Watch the footage. Or if you're too lazy to do that, here are some shots for your viewing pleasure:
Topher
Gold Member
Enhanced can mean a lot of things. Every texture is completely new. Watch the footage. Or if you're too lazy to do that, here are some shots for your viewing pleasure:
I watched the video, dude. No need to get snarky. I just asked a question. If those are rebuilt textures then fine. Would you have a problem if Activision had called that a "remake"?
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Gamerguy84
Member
So 100% getting this. Just not sure if it's day one or not. Enjoyed the video.
All the concern in this thread doesn't need to exist.
All anyone needs to do is ask themselves "is this product for me right now?", if the answer is yes pick it up. If it's no you get the point.
I'll end up playing it but most likely not immediately because life.
All the concern in this thread doesn't need to exist.
All anyone needs to do is ask themselves "is this product for me right now?", if the answer is yes pick it up. If it's no you get the point.
I'll end up playing it but most likely not immediately because life.
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GametimeUK
Member
I'll accept that. I don't know why I didn't consider it. That's a substantial portion of the game cut yet still asking full price. Thank you for the insight.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
Still NO at this 70€ illegal cashgrab scam, they are masturbating.
We have full game sold 40€ or 30€ build from ground (HELLO STRAY or KENA) and we have this shitfest barely remastered at 70€.
We have full game sold 40€ or 30€ build from ground (HELLO STRAY or KENA) and we have this shitfest barely remastered at 70€.
Topher
Gold Member
So you watched the video and still asked that question?
I was questioning what Activision said, dude. No idea why that is hard for you to get.
Forget it. You want to be an ass? Be an ass.
/ignored
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kikii
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true 70€ is too much, but why noone complains Nintendos 100 years old ports, and they havent sometimes even upped res? but ppl pay 60€ pop per game and isnt complainingStill NO at this 70€ illegal cashgrab scam, they are masturbating.
We have full game sold 40€ or 30€ build from ground (HELLO STRAY or KENA) and we have this shitfest barely remastered at 70€.
tmlDan
Member
Seriously, where's the uproar when Nintendo makes an old game 1080p or the definitive edition and charges $60 for it (and it still hasn't gone down in price) loltrue 70€ is too much, but why noone complains Nintendos 100 years old ports, and they havent sometimes even upped res? but ppl pay 60€ pop per game and isnt complaining
There are too many to count...
GametimeUK
Member
You're saying it's not a night and day difference between TLOU and TLOU Remake? Of course it feels like more of a jump from Demons Souls PS3 to Demons Souls PS5 because there wasn't a remaster in-between and also Demon's Souls PS3 looks nowhere near as impressive as TLOU PS3 in the first place.
The concept of taking a PS3 game and re-doing it for PS5 is extremely similar between these two games. Is it fair to hold it against Naughty Dog that TLOU PS3 looked better than Demons Souls PS3 in the first place?
I love Demon's Souls Remake, but I don't see what it has done differently to have a massive change in public perception compared to TLOU aside from being a game that people have been asking for a Remake / Remaster for years.
TLOU Part 1 on PS5 looks very impressive visually to my eyes and is 110% a huge jump over both the PS3 version and Remaster.
Salz01
Member
My intent is not to sway you or anyone from a purchase. Just personally… irked about it all. More so, if you (or anyone) play the remake and are excited for more, one still has to have the old version installed to play Factions. (Which I still play time to time). I could at least except if they said MP or some version of MP is planned by this date…which contains part of the old Factions content, but they don’t. They just release a picture, and no other info…They don’t explain if it’s F2P, or paid MP,.. just nothing.
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The Fartist
Gold Member
So, anyone know how much this re-built from the ground up remake is gonna cost?
Bartski
Gold Member
I think it's a weird, tryhard complaint.
It makes no sense to expect this game to have a multiplayer mode while everyone knows they're developing a full TLOU MP game to be released at likely end of next year.
They won't make Factions Remake just to kill it a year later trying to get the fan base on board of Factions 2. Or should they run and support 2 separate TLOU MP games competing for time and attention within their own fan base?
Besides, Factions 1 is still going strong even tho it's not supported anymore except for keeping the servers running. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to shut them down when releasing Factions 2.
kikii
Member
still 70 pop in all currency what ive understood, its too much but for 1st time players its fine i think =)
GymWolf
Member
Let's just say that you have to re-built the price from the ground up with 70 units of 1 dollar banknote.
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The Fartist
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JerryinSoCal
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That is also a less than 6 hour campaign and they didn't put anywhere near as much work into it as ND have with TLOU Part 1.
64bitmodels
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It... doesn't really look anything special. ESPECIALLY in terms of VFX where Returnal smashes it. The modeling and lighting are very well done but otherwise it looks kind of flat
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
VenomousCoffee
Member
The new video has me a lot more interested/excited than the pics they released a while back. And the price doesn't bother me.
Bullcrap.
Fbh
Member
IMO It's not worth $70 either but at least the original Demon Souls was only available on PS3 and hadn't seen any remaster or ports in over 10 years.
If there was a Demon Souls remaster that was playable on Ps5 at 1800p and 60fps then the excitement for the remake would have probably been lower, specially if they also cut out the multiplayer features in the remake.
Also people are usually more forgiving with launch titles, specially when they have really nice graphics.
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