DonJorginho
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Just got my refund from PS Support babyyyyyy
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
This effort and money should have been put into a reboot of Jake & Daxter.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
The post you replied to is saying that this information is very damning and is not getting much attention due to the very loyal fanbase ND has. Which is almost certainly true.
EA, Ubisoft, etc. Anyone else pretty much would be trashed and it would be a huge story.
Topher
Gold Member
Croga
Member
I'll happily pay for a remake that is done as well as something like Resident Evil 2 for example.
In the case of this, the least you'd assume for something advertised as "rebuilt from the ground up" would be more then just improved visuals and that's it. Based on the leaks, the gameplay looks exactly the same.
If the gameplay is improved substantially, then you'd assume they'd give us a gameplay trailer, and not hide it.
I'll reserve overall judgement till I see legit footage of gameplay, but even still, 70 bucks? Lol no thanks.
In the case of this, the least you'd assume for something advertised as "rebuilt from the ground up" would be more then just improved visuals and that's it. Based on the leaks, the gameplay looks exactly the same.
If the gameplay is improved substantially, then you'd assume they'd give us a gameplay trailer, and not hide it.
I'll reserve overall judgement till I see legit footage of gameplay, but even still, 70 bucks? Lol no thanks.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
...Which was in reference to this post. Yes you have to read the context of the post. Not just the post itself.
And this is just getting pedantic at this point.
What is your point of even posting ITT? To defend the objectivity of ND fans ignoring this information..?
GymWolf
Gold Member
Well shit it seems like i need to eat a giant crow today, this is worse than i expected.
I had low expectations for an improved animation\gore\ia sytems compared to tlou2 but it looks like we are getting something even worse than tlou2 systems.
Jimbo management strikes again.
I had low expectations for an improved animation\gore\ia sytems compared to tlou2 but it looks like we are getting something even worse than tlou2 systems.
Jimbo management strikes again.
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KXVXII9X
Member
The Last of Us is my favorite game ever and even I feel like this is kind of a cash grab.
I like the story better than 2, but I at least thought the gameplay would be updated in this remake to match the second one because that was a huge improvement over the first game.
The graphics don't even look as good as TLOU Part 2 in some areas. Why is this a PS5 only game sold at $70.
I usually defend the increased pricing if I feel it is warranted enough, but this definitely feels like a $50 game tops.
I like the story better than 2, but I at least thought the gameplay would be updated in this remake to match the second one because that was a huge improvement over the first game.
The graphics don't even look as good as TLOU Part 2 in some areas. Why is this a PS5 only game sold at $70.
I usually defend the increased pricing if I feel it is warranted enough, but this definitely feels like a $50 game tops.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
I don't see the justification for even that. A 60 FPS re-make already exists with much more accurate to setting texturework and multiplayer. How exactly does another re-make with higher resolution but less fitting textures and other oddities with multiplayer removed justify 50 bucks? Honestly even 20 is a stretch and that's talking objectively. Personally this re-make is worthless for me and I wouldn't take it for free over the superior existing re-make.
Side note; All of this assumes they don't damn near miraculously actually re-make the game unlike this real leaked footage suggests. However, I've never seen that actually happen lol. Where a leak ends up completely different from the end product.
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drezz
Member
In the Options "Gore" was set to default
Dont know what the other option is, might be higher.. might be lower.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
Almost certainly lower as in turn it off. This was available with the original ps3 launch, here's a random video demoing it. So no remake features there either..
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Topher
Gold Member
Nah, my only point was being a ND fan doesn't make one part of a cult. That's it.
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
I mean fair enough not just being a fan. I was a fan for example.
Rudius
Member
Sony deserves credit for for introducing 40 fps to console games. 60 is better, no doubt about that, but when we start to get more demanding games it will be difficult to double the frame rate over a 30 base. A 40 fps Unreal Engine 5 title should be doable and much better than the 30 fps Matrix demo we got.
Lol, you guys are literally in a thread bitching about how little they improved TLOU remake compared to Part 2 and still somehow delusionally nostalgic about the old naughty dog.
Stop it.
Topher
Gold Member
I do think this is going to blow up in ND's face in a major way if the game is revealed and we see that these leaks are accurately showing that this is just a cosmetic makeover and nothing more.
This is what was promised:
"We’ve implemented modernized gameplay, improved controls, and expanded accessibility options in this single-player experience to allow even more individuals to enjoy the game. Effects, exploration, and combat have all been enhanced. Leveraging the PS5’s powerful hardware, we also implemented 3D Audio*, haptics, and adaptive triggers. Both returning fans and new players alike will have the opportunity to experience both The Last of Us Part I and its prequel story Left Behind in a whole new way. "
The Growing Future of The Last of Us
The latest on the upcoming online experience, The Last of Us on HBO, and The Last of Us Part I.
blog.playstation.com
So if that's all just bullshit then even the most die-hard ND fans are not going to save them from the shitstorm heading their way.
We should have known when Sony pulled the project from the other studio and finished this quickly for the TV show. It's a shame because TLOU is one of those style over substance games to me, and I thought this was it's chance to match the greatest of all time hype with improved gameplay.
Jim Ryan also just sucks. He's been trying to push playstation 5 as a premium console with premium pricing. Ironically could have just waited for inflation before showing his hand early
Neff
Member
It seems so. I wouldn't even qualify it as a remake. This is essentially the game's second (albeit far more ambitious) remaster.
Since they made what I consider their best game by far without either of them, I disagree with this statement.
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IAmAnAgnostic
Member
Yes, we will see relatively soon. Certainly the lack of any gameplay + this leak seems quite damning. I'll be stunned if this leak is way off and the first to admit being wrong about it, but it'd be a first in terms of leaks of this nature.I do think this is going to blow up in ND's face in a major way if the game is revealed and we see that these leaks are accurately showing that this is just a cosmetic makeover and nothing more.
This is what was promised:
"We’ve implemented modernized gameplay, improved controls, and expanded accessibility options in this single-player experience to allow even more individuals to enjoy the game. Effects, exploration, and combat have all been enhanced. Leveraging the PS5’s powerful hardware, we also implemented 3D Audio*, haptics, and adaptive triggers. Both returning fans and new players alike will have the opportunity to experience both The Last of Us Part I and its prequel story Left Behind in a whole new way. "
The Growing Future of The Last of Us
The latest on the upcoming online experience, The Last of Us on HBO, and The Last of Us Part I.
So if that's all just bullshit then even the most die-hard ND fans are not going to save them from the shitstorm heading their way.
I could see the most hardcore ND fans try to weasel out of it, saying something like; "It does have more accessibility, adaptive triggers and new audio mixing! And there is a very slight difference in aiming (or something like that) so all new gameplay too!" Though that is a huge stretch and clearly spin, some fans will probably try to make similar statements. But I hope most will see the truth about the remake, if these leaks end up being similar to the release version, which again I do think is highly likely.
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KXVXII9X
Member
I was being extremely generous with the $50 lol. With the multiplayer removed, this remake an is such a slap in the face. I personally would only get this for $20 and under and even then I don't even then that would be too much. I also don't think I've seen a leak of a product be fundamentally different from the real thing in a while unless the leak is fake of course.
These leaks makes me think this is will be a day one release on the ps+ extra tier?
It really seems to be just a reskin... almost unbelievable. Sony usually release high quality stuff as their big releases - i could not imagine them not implementing the tlou 2 gameplay at least..
I mean not even level layouts or voice acting seems changed. This seem be a project mostly made by artists updatinh models and textures and not by game designers…
It really seems to be just a reskin... almost unbelievable. Sony usually release high quality stuff as their big releases - i could not imagine them not implementing the tlou 2 gameplay at least..
I mean not even level layouts or voice acting seems changed. This seem be a project mostly made by artists updatinh models and textures and not by game designers…
But what improvements were actually listed? They were not really specific and open to interpretation…
MALpractice311
Member
So the gameplay is identical and the lighting in cutscenes is worse and character models are uglier. Why would I buy this?
M1987
Member
There's definitely no voice acting changes, as the voice actors for Ellie and Joel didn't even know the game was being released (or they acted like they didn't)
M1987
Member
That's true, but they did say they changed the combat system I think, so for it to play exactly the same as the original would be shit
Bernardougf
Gold Member
He is on my ignore list... he is the bigger cuck for cuckman i have ever seen
Moses85
Member
Because you can be 70 bucks lighter
drezz
Member
Im not so sure, out of all the options, left side of the slide is 0 and off and to the right on or 10
Default is set to left / 0
I still am hoping for more lou2 gore.
Because it was lol. Remember Naughtu Dog wasn't even working on this game initially. Sony Greenlight it to another studio
drezz
Member
I think you meant, Faction™ BETA
$70 for this? Yeah sure. How about $100 for TLOU3? Because, why not?
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
*Identical to Factions from 2013 TloU-1 now with less stable servers, hence the BETA!
Please understand, please pay 100 bucks thank you.
(no I don't actually think they'll copy paste the 2013 gameplay... they could, but probably not, before someone takes this joke seriously)
Punished Miku
Member
Much worse than I expected. I wasn't cynical enough.
Topher
Gold Member
I don't know what ND is even thinking here. How do you advertise something as being "built from the ground up" when it is going to be obvious to everyone if that is not the case? The game does look great, but it is not a different game at all from what we are seeing. Can't lie. I'm extremely bummed out about this. I was really excited to play TLOU with TLOU 2 gameplay. Fucking sucks...
ZehDon
Member
Sony's got a full priced next-gen PlayStation 5 exclusive from their premier developer dropping in two months, and they're being rather quiet on it. I don't think they have high sales expectations. If this moves a million copies on PS5 I'll be impressed. It'll likely do much better numbers on Steam, whenever they get around to releasing the PC port. With that said, if they drop this onto PS+ within a year of release, after charging AUD$125.00 for such an unnecessary game, they'll be burning a few bridges.
Banjo64
cumsessed
crunchyBiscuits
Member
Wow if these leaks are of the final build and the game does release with these non-improvements to gameplay, this is kind of crap.
Colour me sad
But I'm waiting for some official gameplay from Sony.
Colour me sad
But I'm waiting for some official gameplay from Sony.
Kokoloko85
Member
Same as Demon Souls. Day 1
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
It's no wonder they were boasting about how they didn't need to crunch. Whoopdie fucking do.
There's no way this bled into their other projets. About the only positive I can take from this now
Yep, you got it.
XGon'GiveItToYa
Banned
Looks like a remaster, not a remake.
MarkyG
Member
Looking forward to PC release. This, Days Gone (amazingly underrated game IMO), Spiderman, HZD, etc. Great time to be a PC gamer.
I actually bought a PS3 specifically for TLOU back in the day. Absolutely loved it. Does anybody know if they're bringing any gameplay elemements from TLOU2 into this remake? Like the ability go prone, more manoeuvrability, enhanced combat?
I actually bought a PS3 specifically for TLOU back in the day. Absolutely loved it. Does anybody know if they're bringing any gameplay elemements from TLOU2 into this remake? Like the ability go prone, more manoeuvrability, enhanced combat?
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
drezz
Member
None it seems.
Only thing I've noted was Joel drawing back on the hammer of his revolver when aiming at enemies, didnt do that in the first iteration of lou.
I guess the "game" and "enhanced combat" stem from how the controller feels when fighting, the Duelsense™
How it feels pulling the trigger or bow pull, choking out a guy and his veins pulsing through out the controller like a Domination minigame.... just me?
Shifty1897
Member
I see Ellie's still invisible to enemies and gameplay looks largely the same. I noticed some more complex level geometry here and there; I see the disheveled blinds, the ceiling tiles ajar, the texture work on railing and walls. Enemies are noticeably higher poly, you can see that during the grapple/holdup animation.
Roman Empire
Member
Looks good but not "US $70 good". I wouldn't go that far to call it a reimagining of the first game.
I'll grab it for $40 or less, if it doesn't end up as part of the PS+ extra/premium lineup in a year or two after its release.
I'll grab it for $40 or less, if it doesn't end up as part of the PS+ extra/premium lineup in a year or two after its release.