Riky
$MSFT
I have no idea what difference shmunter and vick are talking about lol, they look virtually identical in the comparisons
As that shows the Series X has a resolution advantage on average as well as framerate advantage in the 120fps mode.
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As that shows the Series X has a resolution advantage on average as well as framerate advantage in the 120fps mode.
Vick
Member
I know it's you, but how can you possibly say Series X has a resolution advantage on average?
The video is reporting the same resolution for both, so are you pulling this out of somewhere or? Genuinely confused.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, Vick is looking at a difference in AA coverage in a 400% zoomed segment and taking it as a difference in IQ, that's not the case lol.
Vick
Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The more impressive thing is that the ELEMENOPEE comparison says the consoles are aiming for 2160p in the 120 FPS mode as well.
Which sounds ridiculous on paper, and the image is visibly softer in that mode compared to 60 FPS, so that's weird.
Which sounds ridiculous on paper, and the image is visibly softer in that mode compared to 60 FPS, so that's weird.
Arioco
Member
But does it? Honestly I couldn't tell the difference if my life depended on it. xD Even when having them side by side in front of my nose they just look the same IMO.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I have no idea what difference shmunter and vick are talking about lol, they look virtually identical in the comparisons
I was just going by this thread. Maybe it's not too different, looks like it's the 400% zooms showing the difference.
Shmunter
Member
Those zooms are for your benefit to point out the difference as you couldn’t see it. I can see it in the split side by side in the video on my tv pretty plainly. 0100100101 posted own screens previously, also obvious there.
If you don’t see the difference at normal viewing distance, good for you or your vision is not as good. Simple as that. But now you know there is a difference.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I can't, even now outside of the 400% zoom difference in AA on the statue, there's literally no notable difference in any other visible area of the screen, even the walls and lights that are farther *behind* the statue look identical.
The two of us need glasses
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Shmunter
Member
Let’s put it this way, I usually cannot tell the difference between e.g 1800p and 4k on most images that have high iq with no shimmer or jaggies. But this here stands out like dogs balls to me.The two of us need glasses
Vick
Member
Even if my desire to start an argument with you two guys is comparable to my desire of smashing my balls with an hammer, i just have to say that the most impressive thing to me is the length you and Riky can go in order to "defend" Xbox.
It really is insane, like 99% of people looking at the Thread wouldn't be able to see the blatant differences in IQ in that comparison you're claiming are non-existent.
It's not too different, and actually has a performance advantage.
As for the "400% zooms" (which isn't zoom at all considering the game runs at 4K and that's a compressed YT grab to boot), it's because
adamsapple
asked me this:In response to this image:
Which was itself a response to this:
I have no idea what difference shmunter and vick are talking about lol
Riky
$MSFT
I know it's you , but you've actually quoted it yourself.I know it's you, but how can you possibly say Series X has a resolution advantage on average?
The video is reporting the same resolution for both, so are you pulling this out of somewhere or? Genuinely confused.
Common 2016p
Common 2160p
That's one having a higher resolution.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
People still play the original versions of these games.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Damn Vick, chill lol.
Yes, that marble statue looks cleaner in high zooms despite them both running identical pixel counts with a very minor difference, that's because of AA coverage like I said before. The underlying texture quality etc between the two is identical.
Of course, they're bloody classics.
Yes, that marble statue looks cleaner in high zooms despite them both running identical pixel counts with a very minor difference, that's because of AA coverage like I said before. The underlying texture quality etc between the two is identical.
Of course, they're bloody classics.
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Shmunter
Member
There is shimmer, especially in motion on XsX, where there is complete stability on ps5.
Yes it’s either a cheaper AA solution or a cheaper reconstruction technique, or a lower base for the reconstruction. Any of the above, I’m not Alex Battlestargalactica.
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MikeM
Member
Isn’t this what is supposed to happen tho?
You guys are right, better performance and resolution on Series X.
In saying that, I have both consoles and RE2 on both. Playing it on PS5 again (thanks non-smart delivery for feeding my trophy habit). Gave both a go for science and flicked back and forth between inputs and couldn’t notice a difference.
Vick
Member
Well, i mean.. yes. lolThe two of us need glasses
Was too distracted by the IQ differences. Sorry.
Vick
Member
There's actually another difference in AO, but if IQ looked identical to you i'm not even going to bother with that. Peace.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Hopefully they can patch them to parity and as everyone says framerate is the most important thing so hopefully they don't affect the framerate on the series x version if they do patch the AA solution.
Mr Moose
Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yeah, I feel that's an text error and it's 2160p on both ps5 and xbox.We're suddenly trusting that source?
Wait for VGTech.
We should wait for the trusted sources.
Riky
$MSFT
He has a 2088p count for the 120fps compared to 2160p as well.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I have no idea what difference shmunter and vick are talking about lol, they look virtually identical in the comparisons
Dude.. are you legally blind?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Dude.. are you legally blind?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Ah ok. Will keep a look out for vg tech and digital foundry.
All versions look ok, looking forward to playing my series x version.
Vick
Member
Looks magnificent though, straight pre-rendered and even photoreal at times on my panel (but that's also true for the non RT mode to be fair). After calibration at least.
I wasn't expecting RT at that resolution in 60fps anyway, i'm just glad the game can be played on Consoles looking like this at all. Hopefully at rock solid 60fps in a not too distant future, on Pro versions of consoles hopefully, or Next-Gen at worst.
It's not like i'll ever grow tired of RE2R.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Death, taxes and DeepEnigma gifs are the only 3 certainties in the world
Yeah based on twitter chatter, seems like the PS5 version is running sub 60 almost always in the RPD, or whereever the RT would need to kick in for reflections.
The SX also drops but seems like it does less so.
Same result for the 120 FPS mode, SX has a couple of frames of advantage all the time.
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In general RE2make seems to be heavier on the resources and Re3make runs better, which is a bit counter productive as you'd expect the newer, more action heavy, game to be the more resource intensive.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Edit: You know what, that was mean.Death, taxes and DeepEnigma gifs are the only 3 certainties in the world
Here: I aim to please.
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Locked 60fps is too much to ask for, but 40-60 with good frame pacing is within reach, but thats not the case at the moment.
Lysandros
Member
I would take his findings with a huge grain of salt, this is a banned and unreliable source.
assurdum
Banned
Only you can give credit to elanalist pixels counts
Physiognomonics
Member
Yes it's much cleaner on PS5 (PS5 is the one without much aliasing / artefacts). The resolution difference is meaningless compared to this IQ difference. The game actually looks higher res on PS5.I know it's you, but how can you possibly say Series X has a resolution advantage on average?
The video is reporting the same resolution for both, so are you pulling this out of somewhere or? Genuinely confused.
It's not the first time this happened. DF will no doubt miss this.
tommib
Member
Legally and contractually biased.Dude.. are you legally blind?
assurdum
Banned
Lol what a shitty mess is ps5 VRR in this game. I played RE2R with raytracing and VRR off just for curiousiry and it's infinitely more tolerable with lower average fps than automatic VRR on. I really invite some people to give a try, the hell is that shit, I'm losing my mind with this crazyness, it's definitely more playable and not in a minor way.
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Gambit2483
Member
So what's the general consensus on this?
Is the Ray Tracing worth the lesser performance? Are the different games more or less the same with the new graphical modes? I just see so many different takes on this...
Is the Ray Tracing worth the lesser performance? Are the different games more or less the same with the new graphical modes? I just see so many different takes on this...
Vick
Member
Not worth it at all in my opinion. Also i just noticed that once you reach the Nest the RT implementation gets quite a bit noisy, like in the rest of the game on the save screen (typewriter close ups) if you play on Hardcore, and other little places here and there.
If you disable RT, you get much, much superior IQ compared to previous gen (at least on the jump PS4 Pro - PS5), some additional reflections, and less noisy and broken SSR (but still not ideal), all at rock solid 60fps.
This all for RE2 as i have yet to try RE3 and RE7.
assurdum
Banned
Well I heard in RE7 raytracing is quite more visible in the lighting where in the other two game is barely perceivable. Just the reflections are worth it. I have to admit the only reason because I prefer raytracing in RE2R is because I can't stand the horrid SSR which is really annoying in the most important areas.
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Rocco Schiavone
Member
So ist this an update or a standalone version of the existing games??
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Both. PS4 and XBO versions can be updated for free.
You can also buy "PS5" and "Series X" versions from the store if you don't already own it.
No physical release.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I am gearing to replay re2 for sure! it runs pretty good and usually never drops below 60.
I tried playing some with the controller (series 20th anniv) and the game controls so well.
I finished it twice with mouse on release but I would like to chill and lean back.
Is dualsense supported? or only on ps5?
I tried playing some with the controller (series 20th anniv) and the game controls so well.
I finished it twice with mouse on release but I would like to chill and lean back.
Is dualsense supported? or only on ps5?
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Dust-by-Monday
Member
Yeah because the textures load now.
Vick
Member
Thank God, but it's not just that. Lighting and shading are significantly different.
KormaChameleon
Member
Downloading Steam version now, Will upload some screen shots if I remember tomorrow.