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Xbox Gaf: Are you satisfied with the current state of Microsoft Game Studios?

ZehDon

Gold Member
Xbox has been in "wait till next year!" mode for over seven years. During this time, they've certainly delivered some quality titles, but none of the industry defining hits they used to deliver during the Xbox 360 era. They'd pump up a Mass Effect, a Gears of War, a Halo 3, or a Fable 2, and then it would land - right when they said it would, and the games would deliver, providing the highest caliber titles in the industry. Now, when Microsoft lands a hit, it always feels like its a bit of a surprise. Forza Horizon 5 was way bigger than folks thought it was going to be. Flight Simulator was way better than we thought it was going to be. Gears of War Tactics was way better than anyone thought it was going to be. Their big games still land well - Gears 5 is good, Sea of Thieves is good, Halo Infinite's core is good - but, their biggest games always feel like they're just "good". They never seem to fire on all cylinders. It feels like the games they hype up arrive late and fail to really deliver. So, it feels like Xbox is always behind the position where they should be, despite delivering high quality games.

When Xbox snapped up Zenimax, investing billions into their first party, it was expected that now, Microsoft was getting serious. Xbox was a big priority, and they're going back to the Xbox 360 era. That was over a year ago. Since then, Halo Infinite disappointed and imploded, all of their games have been delayed so 2022 is now basically Xbox taking a year off, leaving them with only the stink of Halo Infinite's abysmal failure to grab mindshare. Xbox is left with Forza Horizon 5 and Gears of War Tactics as the only real first party exclusives they landed in the first two years of their console. It seems we went back to the Xbox 360 era, but the tail end of it, when all we got was Halo, Gears, and Forza. Microsoft need to get their ducks in a row and start delivering great titles on a consistent basis, or they'll blow the massive gains they've made so far. And with that said, we're back to: wait and see what happens next year. Maybe 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 is the year Microsoft delivers.
 
Not going to lie, I'm a little unhappy with the Starfield delay. Microsoft really started making moves to shore up their first party in late 2017-2018, and I was definitely hoping there would be more fruit than there has been by now. On the other hand I've been extraordinarily happy with Gamepass, have played a ton of FH5, and Halo Infinite, so I'm not completely pissed off. I still expect their June show to be absolutely jam packed with games, but it's frustrating when you can't trust any of them to hit on time.......
 

JLB

Banned
Xbox has been in "wait till next year!" mode for over seven years. During this time, they've certainly delivered some quality titles, but none of the industry defining hits they used to deliver during the Xbox 360 era. They'd pump up a Mass Effect, a Gears of War, a Halo 3, or a Fable 2, and then it would land - right when they said it would, and the games would deliver, providing the highest caliber titles in the industry. Now, when Microsoft lands a hit, it always feels like its a bit of a surprise. Forza Horizon 5 was way bigger than folks thought it was going to be. Flight Simulator was way better than we thought it was going to be. Gears of War Tactics was way better than anyone thought it was going to be. Their big games still land well - Gears 5 is good, Sea of Thieves is good, Halo Infinite's core is good - but, their biggest games always feel like they're just "good". They never seem to fire on all cylinders. It feels like the games they hype up arrive late and fail to really deliver. So, it feels like Xbox is always behind the position where they should be, despite delivering high quality games.

When Xbox snapped up Zenimax, investing billions into their first party, it was expected that now, Microsoft was getting serious. Xbox was a big priority, and they're going back to the Xbox 360 era. That was over a year ago. Since then, Halo Infinite disappointed and imploded, all of their games have been delayed so 2022 is now basically Xbox taking a year off, leaving them with only the stink of Halo Infinite's abysmal failure to grab mindshare. Xbox is left with Forza Horizon 5 and Gears of War Tactics as the only real first party exclusives they landed in the first two years of their console. It seems we went back to the Xbox 360 era, but the tail end of it, when all we got was Halo, Gears, and Forza. Microsoft need to get their ducks in a row and start delivering great titles on a consistent basis, or they'll blow the massive gains they've made so far. And with that said, we're back to: wait and see what happens next year. Maybe 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 is the year Microsoft delivers.

Last year MS was publisher of the year.
FH5 is industry defining IMO by the way.
 

ZehDon

Gold Member
Last year MS was publisher of the year.
FH5 is industry defining IMO by the way.
Publisher of the year that delivered two PlayStation exclusives and several high quality Multiplatform titles, while straddling Xbox with the exclusive disaster of Halo Infinite and delaying its biggest game into next year. No one’s saying Xbox can’t deliver good games. But they have a clear issue delivering when it counts - the big exclusives for their own platform.
 

Three

Member
I just got an XSX so I guess I can claim to be Xbox GAF now?

The non stop delays are disappointing, but not unexpected.

They really need to start releasing content in 2023 though. It’s kinda unacceptable to have so many studios that have problems getting out content in a timely fashion

PD, Fable, Hellblade, and Everwild seem like they won’t come out for another 6 years at the current rate of progress
Hellblade release might surprise us then
 

JLB

Banned
Publisher of the year that delivered two PlayStation exclusives and several high quality Multiplatform titles, while straddling Xbox with the exclusive disaster of Halo Infinite and delaying its biggest game into next year. No one’s saying Xbox can’t deliver good games. But they have a clear issue delivering when it counts - the big exclusives for their own platform.

Halo is multiplatform, why are you filtering to make it sound like exclusives are bad?
 
I don't know there was Returnal, Ratchet& clank ,destruction all stars without counting those next gen version of a lot of their games....Xbox so far has nothing and will probably at least have Forza ....So it is comparatively at least 3 times worst ....So yeah as of now with nothing announced it is factually barebones, you can't have more barebones than that there's not even a bone.But yeah totally comparable to sony's last year of course.
Ratchet and Returnal didn't exactly set the world on fire. This year is much better though, especially if GoW comes out.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Ratchet and Returnal didn't exactly set the world on fire. This year is much better though, especially if GoW comes out.
Ratchet ? the game everybody said looked like a pixar movie so much that even my mom heard about it ....Yeah right ...Just like their sales is relevant to their existence...So a game not selling well doesn't count or did Sony actually release those games?
Don't you have a better goalpost to move ?
 

Dr.brain64

Member
Compared to playstation?
Nope. Xbox one definitely did not deliver. And the sx is not looking good too.

I'm not blaming any dev though (they're just as good as playstation). I blame the people in command of xbox and ms.
 

Lupin25

Member
The bigger question should be:

What should the collective response be to this news?

Clearly, there’s nothing we as consumers can do to expedite game development, but XGS can’t simply be let off the hook.

It’s one thing to have production and management issues, but to show off release/window dates, teasers, and artwork as if the product is near complete (only to foresee it’s inevitable delay a few months prior) is horribly disingenuous.

There’s people (including myself) who’ve bought an XSX in anticipation for these games.

Now what?

Spencer has to at least follow this up with another trademark interview reassuring the future pipeline of games.
Otherwise, their June 12th presentation has be good, because Gamepass will need big replacements with STALKER 2, Redfall & Starfield out of the equation this year.

I was hoping for all three console-makers to succeed this year and drive some true competition, but that won’t be the case.

Thankfully, there’s third-party support.
 
Xbox has been in "wait till next year!" mode for over seven years. During this time, they've certainly delivered some quality titles, but none of the industry defining hits they used to deliver during the Xbox 360 era. They'd pump up a Mass Effect, a Gears of War, a Halo 3, or a Fable 2, and then it would land - right when they said it would, and the games would deliver, providing the highest caliber titles in the industry. Now, when Microsoft lands a hit, it always feels like its a bit of a surprise. Forza Horizon 5 was way bigger than folks thought it was going to be. Flight Simulator was way better than we thought it was going to be. Gears of War Tactics was way better than anyone thought it was going to be. Their big games still land well - Gears 5 is good, Sea of Thieves is good, Halo Infinite's core is good - but, their biggest games always feel like they're just "good". They never seem to fire on all cylinders. It feels like the games they hype up arrive late and fail to really deliver. So, it feels like Xbox is always behind the position where they should be, despite delivering high quality games.

When Xbox snapped up Zenimax, investing billions into their first party, it was expected that now, Microsoft was getting serious. Xbox was a big priority, and they're going back to the Xbox 360 era. That was over a year ago. Since then, Halo Infinite disappointed and imploded, all of their games have been delayed so 2022 is now basically Xbox taking a year off, leaving them with only the stink of Halo Infinite's abysmal failure to grab mindshare. Xbox is left with Forza Horizon 5 and Gears of War Tactics as the only real first party exclusives they landed in the first two years of their console. It seems we went back to the Xbox 360 era, but the tail end of it, when all we got was Halo, Gears, and Forza. Microsoft need to get their ducks in a row and start delivering great titles on a consistent basis, or they'll blow the massive gains they've made so far. And with that said, we're back to: wait and see what happens next year. Maybe 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 is the year Microsoft delivers.

I agree with the hits like Forza, Gears, MS Flight and lest we forget Sea of Thieves. I agree with the stink of Halo tainting the whole thing. I agree Xbox needs to expand beyond those, they're almost there but delayed.

I'll add five really positive aspects for Xbox -
  • Gamepass. The curation of indies/studios enjoying financial success and delivering more games with brilliant quality. I cannot really fault the quantity and quality of content coming through Gamepass. It's amazing. The backlog is real. There are so many games I've enjoyed solo, with friends, with family, with my wife. Utter respect for all of Xbox and the devs delivering what Gamepass has become. Brilliant, cannot say it enough.
  • Hardware. The Series X/S and things like adaptive controller and/or elite controller 2 are an absolute joy.
  • Backward compatibility. The support and love shown to games of old is to be respected and applauded. Beyond well done.
  • Sustain. The platform updates, software updates, fixes, insider program and more are a well oiled machine that really delivers long term. Huge love for the dedication beyond the initial sale/purchase.
  • Family and Friends. Xbox is the platform I've made life long friends with. It continues to expand our circle of friends to play games with. It has done this for my son and partially my daughter as well. The entire family ecosystem combined with Gamepass creates easily the best platform going.
Delays suck, seeing games you want to play for years and not getting hands on sucks. Yes it's a bit of a blank year for first party now. No big deal there are plenty of games to play. I do yearn for a game of the generation out of xbox but I feel that's coming between now and the next 3-4 years anyhow. That sort of lightning is rare and isn't something I expect every year on every console.
 
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JLB

Banned
Is Halo on PlayStation?
Is Forza on Switch?
Is Gears of War on Linux?

Sounds like Xbox exclusives to me.

All of them are on PC.
Now if you talk about console exclusive, then Forza is as exclusive as Halo.
And Halo is great BTH.
 
Two years of Gamepass is like $240 no? That list is a lot less impressive when you think like that. To me it makes a lot more sense to sub for one or two months and play just what is truly worth playing.

Idk what the cost is if you pay normal price. I have used conversions ever since the service launched. The best value I have ever seen.
 
Also, for the Xbox fanboys mad that they don't have anything to play this year
do remember that us valve fanboys have had nothing to play for an entire decade :messenger_loudly_crying:
2022 is year of the backlog...I'm cautiously optimistic GOW drops this year but with no news...ehhh. I'm just expecting to dive heavily into my back log this year and occasional visits to the land between to eventually get to ng+ 7
 
What was the point of writing that long list except to flex how much time you apparently have to game? All that list proves is that Game Pass is utterly reliant on 3rd party multiplatforms and Indies to provide any value, and that, right now, Game Pass is about the only thing Microsoft has going for it other than Smart Delivery and their Xbox All Access sales program.

Typing out that long list isn't the gotcha you think it is.

Seems you’re looking at it from a console warrior point of view. “Gotcha”, that’s cute. And of course the service is relying on third parties for content. For now.
 

Hezekiah

Banned
Microsoft had the second highest rated game in 2020 with Flight Sim. Together with Gears Tactics and Ori. In 2021 it had the highest rated game of the year, Forza. Also Age of Empires 4, Psychonauts 2 and Halo.

The following year, once the dozens of studios start pumping out games, i expect there will be even more.



Does sony or nintendo release more than 4 games per year from their studios ?
A pic that includes Crash Bandicoot and Spyro (are they even in development?), CoD which is still multiplatform, Psychonauts 2 which was kick-started and is on PS4, Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo which are already out on PS5 and PC, King mobile games, Minecraft, and Age of Empire 4 which is PC only.

Not the greatest sell for Xbox 😁
 

Warnen

Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
I like halo and destiny but wish both Sony and MS would step it up already.
 

teezzy

Banned
I'm having way too much fun with GamePass and backwards compatibility to notice

Looking forward to Redfall and Starfield and glad they aren't being rushed

Just disappointed I haven't caught wind of anything proper with Banjo or Conker yet
 

Hezekiah

Banned
If sony would only release nextgen games it would be in the same situation as M, with their biggest titles ready between 2023-2024, returnal and ratchet are far from their biggest titles.

it is easy when you start developing your games in 2017-2018 for a crossgen release.

i prefer M approach tbh, i want to play nextgen games on my nextgen console even if it takes some time, it's not like we don't have 4358907545734985734957 other games to play between indies, AA and third parties AAA in the meantime.

On the other hand, M has series S so they are never gonna develop a game to fully use series X better ram and gpu.

For the moment, they are both meh tbh.
This such bullshit.

Not to mention Microsoft's studio acquisition drive started years ago, so there is no excuse for them not only not having anything out this year, but barely showing any gameplay footage for a host of games. Games like State of Decay 2 and Crackdown 4 are still years away, Everwild and Fable began pre-production years ago - they're simply not as efficient as the competition.

This attempt at false equivalence is very transparent.
 

kingfey

Banned
This such bullshit.

Not to mention Microsoft's studio acquisition drive started years ago, so there is no excuse for them not only not having anything out this year, but barely showing any gameplay footage for a host of games. Games like State of Decay 2 and Crackdown 4 are still years away, Everwild and Fable began pre-production years ago - they're simply not as efficient as the competition.

This attempt at false equivalence is very transparent.
Most of MS studios released their games in 2018-2019. So it will take them a while to publish something.

Not every studio is the same as other studios. Projects take time. Plus all kind of management stuff. Also, purchased studio need time to settle in.

Sony for example had uncharted 4 to last of us 2 in 5 years, with mini project between them. That is a big studio, which took them that long to make 2 big titles.

p.s. MS started purchasing in 2017-2018. Bethesda is not on the list, since the deal finalized last year.

Most problems stems from partnership. MS doesnt have the same pull as sony. So they wont get alot of 3rd party studios making exclusive games for their system. Not to mention, scalebound fiasco makes it hard for them to commit to these type of deal.
 

Beechos

Member
Not concerned here, have all the systems so no shortage of games to play. Even if i was limited to xbox only still too many 3rd party games to play. I prefer xbox mainly for their quality of life features more than anything.
 
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I'm kinda annoyed, perplexed and running out of patience fast for all the shit they seem to pull.
If it was just one studio delaying well yeah it's understandable. When it's all of them bar Playground and the Coalition it sends warning signs.
Something's up with how they manage them.
 

Pantz

Member
Disappointed in them, but not because of these recent delays.

Feels like on their would-be come back of steady releases, they gave studios too much freedom. Everwild is actually upsetting with how long they are paying those guys who don't even know what kind of game they're making. Sounds like a great place to work. They had to bring extra people in to save Halo Infinite in that year, reworking major things in a short time to get it to be something fun. Scary to wonder how it could have turned out. Also it had so much potential to be something really great if they didn't have to piece it together in the last minute.

I'll give tons of leeway for these last two and half years of suckyness and what seems like it will continue. Even taking that into account, they have some major problems handling their studios. It's time to bring the hammer down and tell their workers what to do.

Considering this as one more reset for them and that after some time, hopefully they will get things right going forward.

The console itself and Game Pass, I'm quite happy with. It's the best library I have and all the enhanced games are great.

I'm usually an Xbox fan but in 2022, Switch has slightly taken over as my favorite.
 
Torn tbh. I think delays generally turn out to be good, so I can wait for Starfield if it’s a better game. So I’m not annoyed with the delays, and I have some sympathy with the effects of covid (and think other companies will have delays to come as a result) but I don’t know what they were thinking around five years ago, when this problem should have been solved.

I think they have their act together now, and we just have to be patient.

For me they had the best year by far last year of the big three. Unfortunately for me all of the major releases this year haven’t been for me - I’ll never play Elden Ring, and am waiting for big sales on GT and Horizon -$70? No thanks. $20 and you have my attention.

MS need to get Forza out (and the Horizon DLC).
 

ZehDon

Gold Member
All of them are on PC.
Now if you talk about console exclusive, then Forza is as exclusive as Halo.
And Halo is great BTH.
The games are exclusive to Microsoft's platforms: Windows PC and Xbox consoles. Do you think God of War is a PlayStation exclusive?

And Halo is on burning down around 343i on a daily basis. You can call it many things, but "great" isn't one of them.
 

onesvenus

Member
- Are you concerned about another barebones year with Starfield and Redfall getting delayed? 2020 was fairly empty too.
Yes, absolutely. I don't think having Starfield and Redfall was enough to compensate for this lackluster first half and we were expecting something else to be announced at E3. Without those two gone, there's no way they have enough to save this year.

- Are you ok with the lack of next gen only games on xbox so far this gen?
I'm a quite graphics hardcore gamer so I really love big tech. Having said that, Forza Horizon 5 shows that you can do a cross-gen game really well and being next gen doesn't guarantee being a good game.

- If not, who do you blame for this? Sony gaf blames Jim Ryan for everything; I blame him for the Ukraine war. Does Phil Spencer shoulder some of this blame after 9 years at the helm?
I don't know enough about the structure at Microsoft and I don't think it can be attributed to a single person. Phil is like the most public person on the team so he should take some of the blame, even if internally it goes somewhere else.

- They say it's darkest before the dawn. Are you confident MS will have a killer E3 conference with Perfect Dark, Forza, Hellblade, Fable, Starfield, Avowed and State of Decay 2 all making an appearance? That they are about to turn the corner?
Not at all. I'm sure they are looking at ways to compensate those news but announcements for the future won't be enough. Even if they give a release date for next year for some of those games, who says that can be trusted?

- Everyone from Nintendo, Sony to From Software are delaying games. Should MS with their infinite war chest be held to a different standard?
I don't think so. Software planning is really difficult, add COVID to the mix and here we are. Having said that, they should be held to a different standard on their yearly planning. It makes no sense to go at least half a year without games when you have so many studios.
Some of them can sleep, that's true, but to the point nothing releases? That's bad planning
 

kikkis

Member
I still dont get why Phil Spencer gets to hall of fame, for basically buying studios with someones money and then failing to get games out from previously consistenly shipping studios.
 
I think my posting history should confirm that there is no love lost between me and Xbox's first party output. There is no real reason for me to drone on and on about this stuff, but I am interested in hearing what Xbox fans think of Microsoft's lackluster output this gen.

- Are you concerned about another barebones year with Starfield and Redfall getting delayed? 2020 was fairly empty too.
- Are you ok with the lack of next gen only games on xbox so far this gen?
- If not, who do you blame for this? Sony gaf blames Jim Ryan for everything; I blame him for the Ukraine war. Does Phil Spencer shoulder some of this blame after 9 years at the helm?
- They say it's darkest before the dawn. Are you confident MS will have a killer E3 conference with Perfect Dark, Forza, Hellblade, Fable, Starfield, Avowed and State of Decay 2 all making an appearance? That they are about to turn the corner?
- Everyone from Nintendo, Sony to From Software are delaying games. Should MS with their infinite war chest be held to a different standard?

Note to Sony gaf: No offense, but I can predict your posts just by looking at your name tags lol so let's just see what real fans of Xbox have to say first.
I’m a fan of both systems - I think xbox has a culture issue that I hope is being fixed. Phil Spencer actually seems to make good calls for the most part - they’ve just mismanaged so much for so long. It’s not like Sony coming off ps3/ps4 heights - xbox has been shit for a while - and are arguably doing better than they were. But god are they fucking slow. The series x and cross gen decisions I don’t really care about since I don’t feel they are capable to compete with Sony graphics anyway on an artistic level
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Xbox Support confirmed that even people with their Xbox systems set as their Home Xbox was having problems during the outage so stop with this nonsense. It wasn't something as simple as flipping a setting on the Xbox to fix. It was a system wide issue that exposed a major problem with Xbox's bullshit DRM.
I dont need Xbox support to tell me what I was doing.
When the servers were down I literally set my console to offline and all the Gamepass games still worked.
As long as the game has been launched before the "DRM" chills for like one month or something before it asks to do the checkin.

Heck ive used my console when I didnt have an Internet connection in the sticks and Gamepass games were still working.

Did your games shutdown when the servers were down even as your console was the home console?
 

Kimahri

Banned
I just love all the doom and gloom just weeks before theyir showcase. If they have nothing to show for this year then, okay, then I'll roll my eyes at them.

But now? After delivering me a great Halo experience (I don't play multiplayer so don't care about the seasons) and Psychonauts 2 plus lots of fun stuff through game pass, I haven't had time to consider whether or not something is missing.
 

Shmunter

Member
SonyGaf....

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phil_t98

#SonyToo
Last year PlayStation had Returnal, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, The Show, Kena Bridge of Spirits and Destruction All-Stars first-party. Plus Deathloop and Oddworld.

That's more than zero.


so have you seen the show they have planned? you know what's releasing?
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
I don't know there was Returnal, Ratchet& clank ,destruction all stars without counting those next gen version of a lot of their games....Xbox so far has nothing and will probably at least have Forza ....So it is comparatively at least 3 times worst ....So yeah as of now with nothing announced it is factually barebones, you can't have more barebones than that there's not even a bone.But yeah totally comparable to sony's last year of course.


apart from ratchet non of them are big hitters even if they are decent games. all the big hitters got pushed to this year, GOW , gran turismo and Horizon all got delayed to this year
 
It's been obvious that there has been a mismanagement problem at Xbox studios for almost a decade, now. Last gen started relatively strong, but releases started to become a trickle. And many of those later releases were mediocre at best. Then comes a new gen, a fresh start, and what do they deliver? Their flagship IP gets delayed before launch because of the poor state they were going to release it in had it not been for the backlash after seeing it's gameplay trailer. Even with an extra year, it wasn't exactly a masterpiece, and hardly anyone talks about it anymore.

Unfortunately, it seems MS's solution is to just throw money at it.
 

Godot25

Banned
Only problem with XGS is they started pumping money into first-party way late then they should.
Like, Obsidian, inXile, Double Fine, Compulsion, Arkane, Tango Gameworks, - the all had contractual obligation which of course delayed switching to "Xbox only" development. So of course, that they were not prepared for start of new gen.
Only problem I have with XGS is that they are too hands off with their studios. They should have seen problems with Undead Labs and The Initative sooner and stomp those problems. They also didn't step sooner into clusterfuck that is 343 Industries. But I get they are afraid to step in after they breath into Lionhead neck until that studio died.

So overall. I'm not overly concerned. Every first-party has it's problems, but Microsoft is prone to leaks and "behind-the-scenes" reports which is not true for other first-party studios. They just started investing too late.
But they had great 2021 which means that they are on right track. It's now just matter of consistency. Because it is bad to have "almost nothing" in 2022 while having Starfield, Redfall, Hellblade 2, Contraband, Avowed, Diablo IV and Overwatch 2 (after Acti-Blizz merger) in 2023.
 

GymWolf

Member
This such bullshit.

Not to mention Microsoft's studio acquisition drive started years ago, so there is no excuse for them not only not having anything out this year, but barely showing any gameplay footage for a host of games. Games like State of Decay 2 and Crackdown 4 are still years away, Everwild and Fable began pre-production years ago - they're simply not as efficient as the competition.

This attempt at false equivalence is very transparent.
Yeah i'm so transparently an xbox fanboy that i don't even possess an xbox but i have a ps5 at home since day one...

If you really think that having crossgen projects doesn't help with having the better/bigger library in the first 1-2 years i have a bridge to sell to you...
 

Mr.ODST

Member
Bit of a shame of how things are going, Love my Series X and been with Xbox since OG Xbox but yeah the delays are starting to cause concern, especially after the Halo shitshow.

I don't even know what's going on with 343 but the fact Microsoft has allowed them to release a broken game, no updates or service, and diminishing esports title (after being so popular at the beginning) , Its surprising me that Phil Spenser has let this happen, it doesn't look good atall and I honestly think there is no updates or fixes because 343i is getting this Halo Battle Royale game ready for launch on the showcase ...

While the Xbox brand has crawled back and made a good impression with Forza, SoT and more but yeah we will see, I agree with some here though, there has now been enough time since MS acquired studios that the excuse "We need time to develop new stuff" shouldn't be used anymore
 
When Xbox snapped up Zenimax, investing billions into their first party, it was expected that now, Microsoft was getting serious. Xbox was a big priority, and they're going back to the Xbox 360 era. That was over a year ago. Since then, Halo Infinite disappointed and imploded, all of their games have been delayed so 2022 is now basically Xbox taking a year off, leaving them with only the stink of Halo Infinite's abysmal failure to grab mindshare. Xbox is left with Forza Horizon 5 and Gears of War Tactics as the only real first party exclusives they landed in the first two years of their console. It seems we went back to the Xbox 360 era, but the tail end of it, when all we got was Halo, Gears, and Forza. Microsoft need to get their ducks in a row and start delivering great titles on a consistent basis, or they'll blow the massive gains they've made so far. And with that said, we're back to: wait and see what happens next year. Maybe 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 is the year Microsoft delivers.
I found Halo Infinite to be the best Halo game ever made, MS needs to do better with its PR, but it's just 2 games pushed back. We need to see what they got in the showcase
Nintendo recorded for In-House exclusives on the Switch is shocking, GOD know when Prime 4 will be ready and its ok for NCL to delay Zelda
 
Looking forward to Redfall and Starfield and glad they aren't being rushed
After Cyberpunk, the whole "glad the devs aren't rushing the game" thing doesn't really work. Maybe MS actually stepped in and told Todd Howard that he can't launch a Fallout 76 style mess again.
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
I found Halo Infinite to be the best Halo game ever made,
From a campaign or MP point of view? The MP is seriously lacking compared to Halo 3, Reach and even Halo 5.

Nintendo recorded for In-House exclusives on the Switch is shocking, GOD know when Prime 4 will be ready and its ok for NCL to delay Zelda
?

Nintendo games already released in 2022: Switch Sports, Pokémon Legends Arceus & Kirby and the Forgotten Land.

Splatoon 3 - September 9th
Mario Strikers - June 10th
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - July 29th
Fire Emblem - June 24th

Third party exclusives: Triangle Strategy & MH Sunbreak

MS have nothing currently slated for 2022. Nintendo can delay Metroid and Zelda because their release schedule is plentiful.
 
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