Goalus
Member
Absolutely.
They also have a long history of developing and releasing games for MS-based platforms. Which is why this acquisition is just the natural culmination of a decade-long partnership.
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Microsoft—now trying to get its $75 billion deal for Activision approved—has taken a friendly role with regulators. (WSJ)
They also have a long history of developing and releasing games for MS-based platforms. Which is why this acquisition is just the natural culmination of a decade-long partnership.
kingfey
Banned
That is separate. It wont stop the deal.
Badlucktroll
Member
Bet you guys it won’t go through. I just got this feeling.
You're so completely traumatized by Microsoft that you continue to spread uneducated FUD after being proven wrong with facts. Icing on the cake is you mentioning random Microsoft services like you have battered wife syndrome: "u-use Google? *sniff* well I'm not gonna use Bing now am I?" Talk about rent free
Again, Microsoft has been targeted by regulators WAY before Google, Steam and Apple even had a store. Here you go again, obsfucating things with your fanboy stupidity whilst ignoring facts. I think you need to stop being so salty and calm down.
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Edgelord79
Gold Member
That has nothing to do with this deal.
John Wick
Member
I love it how you got triggered by that Bing jibe.......You're so completely traumatized by Microsoft that you continue to spread uneducated FUD after being proven wrong with facts. Icing on the cake is you mentioning random Microsoft services like you have battered wife syndrome: "u-use Google? *sniff* well I'm not gonna use Bing now am I?" Talk about rent free
Again, Microsoft has been targeted by regulators WAY before Google, Steam and Apple even had a store. Here you go again, obsfucating things with your fanboy stupidity whilst ignoring facts. I think you need to stop being so salty and calm down.
Aww keep on fangirling for MS.....
You seem obsessed with MS and them being on the right side of the regulators. Must mean they are the good guys.
John Wick
Member
But I thought it was a fact that MS has been on the right side of the regulator's since the 90's? This is fake news.....
kingfey
Banned
They are for US.
This is EU. Different set of rules.
Fanboy logic 101: gets slapped with facts, has absolutely nothing to respond with so it's just "lol triggered" while being so blinded by salt and hatred you throw random insults that have zero correlation to anything at hand.
Again, I know it's too hard for your brain to comprehend since it's too overloaded with corporate shilling to have the capacity to use logic and reason, but it's hilarious watching you twist and turn to find ways to spin shit so I'll repeat myself.
Microsoft has been a subject of regulation to the point of almost bring broken up in the 90's. It's been three decades. Ever since then they've always lobbied to be in favor of regulation or at least make it seem so in their best interest, which is not unusual. This is an irrefutable fact. Either you're too young to remember this or are a fully-fuctioning adult that is choosing to ignore this and want to continue to pretend they're only trying to be "Good guys" because... of the MS store and ABK (lmao), due to your seething hatred of Xbox. And when told this time and time again, you choose to rant about random unrelated things about Microsoft like they give you PTSD or something.
Try harder.
MScarpa
Member
Awww yeahhhh let's make a bet. If it doesn't go through I'll take a 1 month ban. If it DOES go through, you take the 1 month ban.
MODS, please see this and take appropriate action when needed.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
What are you talking about? It’s a large company that lobbies like they all do. Of course they have skeletons.
John Wick
Member
Your starting to lose it. Keep on typing these long essay's though......
Microsoft is heading for a new antitrust showdown
After almost a decade away from the fray, Microsoft's behaviour is attracting renewed scrutiny
Shmunter
Member
I don't think it's going to go ahead guys, too much focus on Tech giants and their control in all manner of civil society. Sorry not sorry. And frankly for Xbox fans, I think it's dodging a bullet and welcome outcome for gaming in general.
That goes for any huge consolidation, not just MS by the way.
That goes for any huge consolidation, not just MS by the way.
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remember_spinal
Banned
Thats why i hope it goes through. I’d rather MS get tied up with activision and their mess rather than setting their sights on smaller studios again
Shmunter
Member
Smaller studios need robust umbrella leadership nurturing them. It's obvious Phil just leaves them to their own devices which isn't working.
But yes, it would suck for MS to buy out small promising talent only to drive them it into the ground, killing any opportunity for them to flourish elsewhere. Prove me wrong Phil.
Sony's arn't choirs boy in all this either, shutting down Evolution, Japan, etc. But seemingly they are correcting that stupidity.
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Team Andromeda
Member
Yeah ok... Just opens up the door for Tencent to buy whoever they want, with no questions asked
Shmunter
Member
Why no questions asked?
TransTrender
Gold Member
I don't recall if any of their acquisitions even got a second look from the powers at be, unless the second look was to make sure they're using the legally correct colored ink on their APPROVED rubber stamp.
Team Andromeda
Member
Because its CCP and they can do what they want and get away with it. Tencent been buying up studios left right and centre...
I also love the hypocrisy of the US Senate, given its poor history of sexual misconduct, that's even before we move on to Sleepy Joe
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And what happened with that complaint?Your starting to lose it. Keep on typing these long essay's though......
Microsoft is heading for a new antitrust showdown
After almost a decade away from the fray, Microsoft's behaviour is attracting renewed scrutinywww.wired.co.uk
John Wick
Member
Maybe read the article? MS still using its usual bullying tactics on the small guys. Nothing has changed. No different to any of the other big tech giants. We know that people have their favourite plastic box but please stop trying to paint MS as some white Knight trying to do good for the little guys.....
John Wick
Member
Lol! It's funny how everything becomes CCP related. First the US went after Huawei (only because they were so far ahead in 5G) putting them on sanctions without ever providing any hard proof of their claims. Usual bully boy tactics. Now it's Tencent. Tencent allow games on all platforms. I don't see the problem. What has Tencent done that shows they shouldn't be allowed to buy or invest in companies?
phil_t98
#SonyToo
If this doesn’t go through then surely Sonys deal for Bungie would also be in danger, as the market leader that deal will be scrutinised heavily to, i do think the Activision deal will go through though. After all things like Disney purchasing fox went through when they had not long bought Lucas film
The article literally said 1 sourced complained anonymously and that's basically it. They were wondering if anyone else was going to complain in the consultation and I was asking who did?
Microsoft does anti-competitive shit all the time, the browser crap on Windows 11 was a bit of a shit storm. I am also aware and sympathetic of the complaints from companies like Slack regarding Teams.
I am not a fan of Teams being bundled into the OS. Yes, so does Apple, Google, Amazon and Facebook.
But seriously, we need to post articles of real complaints that are going places instead of random ones that use clickbait headlines.
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Shmunter
Member
Bungie deal is 1/20th the value of the Activision deal so unlikely to be as high on the radar. Frankly I couldn't give a toss about destiny personally. But i's obvious Sony is following their usual path here of building internal Talent - of which they sorely lack in the GaaS space, as distasteful as it may be.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Buying bungie isnt their usual thing, lets be truthful here. Sony are reacting to Microsoft buying studios. i fully expect both the Activision deal and the bungie deal to go through, as i said the deal for fox went through with disney Which was as big this deal
Shmunter
Member
Things have changed Since the Disney deals. If anything they were a test case to prove it's a bad idea to allow it.
Sony buying bungie falls more inline with wanting to fast track GaaS experience rather than reacting to MS, would have thought it plain to see even if ignoring multi billion deals not being able to be put together on a whim within days.
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Lol do you think it was a reaction to Activision? No it was a reaction to the other big deal Microsoft did. As everybody here post after that happened it isnt what Sony do as they grow studios organically. Yes they need to grow their portfolio for online games as most Sony games are amazing single player experiences. The Activision deal will go through, where is the evidence you think it wont or you just thinking it personally?
Shmunter
Member
So Sony bought one game? Not the talent to create new games in the genre? Despite signaling wanting to go hard in the area. Hmmm.....interesting logic you have there.
Yes theorizing is personal. But nothing can beat your unbridled "The Activision Deal will go through", I guess it's a done deal, close the thread - t98 has confirmed it outright, nothing to discuss.
Team Andromeda
Member
When it comes to China and tbe CCP there's no such thing as a Private corp, it all belongs to the CCO.. And when it comes to the US Senate, they, re hardly clean when it comes to sexual and bullying allegations and it goes right to the Top. Sleepy is lose with hands and Harris loved to bully her staff, no wonder they're leaving her...
phil_t98
#SonyToo
I base it on a multi-billion dollar company have made the offer with the confidence it will go through but Shmunter off the internet knows more than the huge company lol
end of the day if you came with with some genuine reason then fair enough but just theorising when you dont have anything to back it up is a bit silly Really.
i said about the bungie deal because if the Activision deal gets looked into heavily like you are suggesting they will have to look into all these types of purchases by Sony and Microsoft Otherwise microsoft could complain of bias towards sony. Yes the activity deal is much much bigger but the company was in trouble with how it was being run and potential downfall coming because of that.
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John Wick
Member
Agreed. All the big tech are the same. They will use their dominant positions and cash on hand to bully or buy out any decent startup or company that threatens their bottom line.
My issue wasn't so much with yourself but people who think just because MS tread very carefully with the regulators they are some white knight company.
I think they tread carefully at the moment or seem to be on the topics that largely coming up because they benefit from the regulation that looks to be coming in place aka DMA and Open App Market Act (largely cause they haven't been able to get the MS store to be "successful" yet)
John Wick
Member
We have to judge Tencent on their current behaviour. Have they stopped games being released on a certain platform? Or shown bias towards one console and not another?
I'm not gonna start hating on Tencent just because they are Chinese.
Your starting to lose it. Keep on typing these long essay's though......
Microsoft is heading for a new antitrust showdown
After almost a decade away from the fray, Microsoft's behaviour is attracting renewed scrutiny
Again, proving my point. No rebuttal after being slapped with facts, so you resort to lame retorts like a petulant child and then put the icing on the cake by linking an article that's completely unrelated to anything I'm saying in a desperate attempt to say "mIcRoSoFt bAd!" Just like earlier "bu-but...Bing!" Your obsession with MS is hilarious.
Spin harder.
My first gut reaction was they were responding to MS buying IP up. But the public statements and incentive component make me believe they legit just wanted the GAAS experience / talent. There’s so much money in GAAS, plus Bungie getting to stay as 3rd party publisher makes the claim very compelling.
If it doesn't Microsoft will have about $65 billion to spend on other acquisitions. If I'm a publisher I'm not taking some bargain basement deal from Sony. I'd wait a year see how the Activision deal plays out and possible increase my purchase price by a few billion.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Pedro Motta
Member
Microsoft after ingesting Activision.
Team Andromeda
Member
So fanboy talk and nothing to do with sexual harassment or company practices, but Fanboys not happy with Xbox getting COD.. I get you
*rollseyes*
Negotiator101
Member
Go on then, how much?
"they just set up the initiative". 2018 was 4 years ago mate.
Topher
Gold Member
Apples and oranges. Sony buying Bungie is more comparable to Microsoft buying Bethesda which wasn't scrutinized at all.
Not sure how this is a relevant or sensible contribution, since in this context, the point was to show MS is investing in new IP/growing studios.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
EU is obsessed with screwing over american companies because they want their own BS
google eu regulators with sony,, microsoft or any non EU company and youll see how mentally ill EU is.
This is from a person living in EU.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
That could be true, but at the same time they may start looking into more deals as they happen. Just a thought
Topher
Gold Member
Anything is possible when it comes to the FTC.
oldergamer
Member
If 3 sentences is an essay in your school, I assume you failed?Your starting to lose it. Keep on typing these long essay's though......
Microsoft is heading for a new antitrust showdown
After almost a decade away from the fray, Microsoft's behaviour is attracting renewed scrutiny
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Yeah with Sony being the market leader am sure they look into the deals but who knows at this point. I do expect the activision deal to go through tbh
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