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[digoutyoursoul]

PS1, PS2 and PSP can be downloaded. PS3 is streaming only.

Will they have trophies?

 

[Belthazar]

Your phone can play persona 3 easily

I hate playing games on my phone, the only one I managed was Dragon Quest because it basically used one finger only

 

[Unknown?]

I'll get top tier when I see the game list. Definitely a lot of ps1 and ps2 games that I would love to play again. Hope they have patapon for psp as well.

They remade patapon for PS4.

 

[Hezekiah]

I can't believe people were expecting first party games at launch. Most of those games sell like crazy, why on Earth would Sony go down that route when there's no reason for it and would probably end up being a lot less profitable for them?

Self-delusion? Stupidity?

For all the criticism Jimbo gets, he's at least been consistent on this. Game budgets are getting bigger. Increasing the price of first-party games to £70, and putting them on the subscription service literally makes no sense.

 

[Swift_Star]

Business is about anticipating and responding to changing conditions and trends.

Just because people think Sony's strategy might be lacking, doesn't make them trolls or Xbox fanboys.

 

[Craig of War]

So yeah, you're taking a Gamepass Ultimate very extreme deal and assuming there won't be upgrade options and deals for the Sony service? Ok then.

Gamepass Ultimate is still officially $180 per year tho...

OK but they get 1st party and even some 3rd party games day 1 though that a huge difference

 

[TrebleShot]

he took the tweet down lol, probably gonna edit and reup.


edit:

Up again and removed the PS2 streaming part

Unless I misread the post.

- PS1, PS2, PSP games will be downloadable
- PS3 games will be streamed, thank the arch of PS3 for that
- This isn't just for 1st party titles this will be 3rd part as well, much like gamepads, you will get 3rd party titles day 1
- 1st party titles will eventually come to the service

Are people being wilfully stupid? never.

 

[ComputerBlue]

Underwhelming as fuck. Going to stick to the essential tier and hope that they eventually offer the PS1, PS2 and PSP games for sale.

 

[SteelCurtain 59]

I am glad they are not offering day one releases on their first party games....that has clearly been proven to be a breeding ground for mediocrity.

The Plus Extra tier seems reasonable value if you are new to the console, but there won't be much in it for me I expect.

I'm just happy 1st party games aren't going to be day 1 on the service.

Imagine being deluded into thinking no day 1 releases is a good thing for Sony......








As for the service, it looks like it would be a good start but I'm assuming the vast majority of the those 400 PS4/PS5 games are just the lackluster PSNow catalog, but locking classic games behind the highest tier , and streaming only PS3 (plus some of the older games too), combined with no day 1 games, it seems like a huge swing and miss for Sony. Yes I know it was not supposed to be a Game Pass competitor, and it was just a rebranding, but they still should've had more than what they ended up with, rightly or wrongly, people are going to compare this to Game Pass, and see how much worse of a service this is

 

[TrebleShot]

OK but they get 1st party and even some 3rd party games day 1 though that a huge difference

Where does it say no 3rd party day 1?

 

[Swift_Star]

OK but they get 1st party and even some 3rd party games day 1 though that a huge difference

You don't know if there won't be third party day on on Sony's service... So this point is moot. And about the MS day one games, I don't think PS Users care about those.

 

[RoadHazard]

I would like Deluxe, please. Fuck cloud streaming, I don't want to pay extra for that.

 

[Belthazar]

locking classic games to a obscenely expensive tier and still having the balls to make PS3 titles streaming only?

How is $120 a year obscenely expensive tho? That's cheaper than Netflix lol

 

[BadBurger]

Not a bad deal for people who can’t afford to buy a ton of games. I wish I had this / gamepass as a kid. A bit underwhelming compared to the competition tho.

I remember when I had to live on a budget this would have been great. I could rarely afford new games (or even budgeted games) - but I could scrounge up $15/month by pinching a few pennies here and there.

I think Sony is largely targeting the kind of customer who only owns a PlayStation and don't (or can't afford to) buy many new games. So if they can upsell say several million-or-so current subscribers they'll consider it a success and then attempt to grow it further.

 

[Hitchyhero]

BOOM! And just like that double the subscribers of the Game Pass. Your move, Microsoft.

And here I was arguing over a year ago that GAFers were being incincere with their hatred for gamepass type services.... They just hated that it wasn't on their console

 

[jorgejjvr]

From my experience when i try PS Now most if not all on there are old games since no day 1 1st party games

I guess its a wait and see then, at least it sounds like they are all downloadable

 

[shoplifter]

Sure. Go buy a ps1 ps2 and a PSP, and the games you want to play, see how much that set you back and get back to me.

Guess I'll just play them on my Series X

 

[Belthazar]

OK but they get 1st party and even some 3rd party games day 1 though that a huge difference

I can literally get a day one game I'm interested with the difference in prices or multiple games in sales. So each has its own advantages.

 

[Craig of War]

Where does it say no 3rd party day 1?

You think Sony will pay for that? when they won't even include ther own 1st party games

 

[Unknown?]

Because it will lead more and more people to Game Pass where they don't have to spend 70 bucks per game.

The problem here for Sony is that Xbox got a fantastic service right now where you don't have to purchase day one exclusives titles, and you get them across PC and consoles, with cross-save and cloud streaming. And all that is up and running.

Right now Sony got enough massive studios to produce tons of great games, but when the Bethesda machine starts up Xbox will easily match them, and when you combine that with Game Pass that will offer all of this within the service, it's gonna draw players over to Xbox, away from Sony.

This lackluster PS+ shit right here is gonna get smacked by Xbox over the next few years unless Sony takes this more seriously and understands what they are up against.

It'll only be a problem once Activision and Bethesda games start releasing because as of now their first party games outside Forza Horizon are pretty trash.

 

[Ogbert]

As a Playstation owner, I have two general gripes.

Firstly, MS’ backwards compatibility and boost is years ahead of what Sony is offering.

Secondly, whilst I do accept the financial reality of developing AAA software, their current prices are simply too much. If they’re not going to be on a subscription service day one, then that doesn’t mean they have to be 70 pounds either.

Today’s announcement is underwhelming.

 

[Akhawi]

I knew this would be bad, but holy shit...

 

[CobraAB]

Sounds pretty good, the prices are decent for what they offer but in the end the games available are what will make the difference.

I hope in the future Sony makes a $20 one that offers their exclusive games on day one, but this is a good start.

I don't know if I'm going to upgrade or stay on the essential having game pass until mid 2022, but we'll see.

If you don't think it's worth paying 3 extra bucks for month, you probably don't care about those games anyway.

Or $20/year.

Sounds pretty good to me.

 

[ethomaz]

Where does it say no 3rd party day 1?

There is zero reason for that.

Except for some indie games they want to help or promote.

 

[DaGwaphics]

You heard it here first from Swift_Star , if you aren't in 100% lockstep with Sony business decisions you are a troll.

And there are a lot of trolls in the PS userbase whenever those PC releases get announced.

 

[adamsapple]

You can buy 3 years of Gold than buy gamepass for $1 then convert so 3 years for like 180 wile Sony new thing is 119 yearly

You can get 3 years of GPU under $120 if you use cheaper Gold cards, not so different than how PS+ occasionally has discounts on their cards too.

 

[Lognor]

You don't know if there won't be third party day on on Sony's service... So this point is moot. And about the MS day one games, I don't think PS Users care about those.

They do. Of course they do. They definitely care about the show being day one! We saw they last year. And again this year! Lol

 

[Swift_Star]

You think Sony will pay for that? when they won't even include ther own 1st party games

They paid for FFVIIRemake on plus a little after the game released, so, yeah, I think it's possible.

 

[Moonjt9]

Seems like a very natural evolution of their already existing services. Happy that the essential tier did not get a price increase. I see literally no downsides!

 

[RoadHazard]

This really should have just been one simple service tier.

But, you know,

JIM NEEDS THA MONEEEEZ

You want them to give you all of that stuff for the same price as current PS+? Or do you want them to force everyone to pay more than they do today, even if they don't want the additional stuff? It's one of the two.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You think Sony will pay for that? when they won't even include ther own 1st party games

Because their 1st party makes them a shit ton of money. They've shown their fine with paying for day one 3rd party games though

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Wow it's trash.

 

[TheTony316]

Will they have trophies?

I hope so.

 

[CeeJay]

Those are hardly difficult names to guess lmao

I am thinking three words about your comment right now, can you guess what they are?

 

[Sleepwalker]

I think it forever stuck the cell processor is just to hard and waste to much resource to try and emulate

Pretty sure a potato can emulate ps3 nowadays.


Either way Im sticking to the basic sub here, nothing for me in further tiers.

 

[jimmypython]

I hate playing games on my phone, the only one I managed was Dragon Quest because it basically used one finger only

FYI you may have quoted the wrong person. It was not my post

 

[Neofire]

Offers absolutely nothing I am interested in.... but maybe useful for people new to the ecosystem.

I think they should just ditch streaming, waste of time.

I agree, I hope this isn't a ploy to raise PSN prices but phasing out the base price in exchange for the other tiers.

 

[Hunnybun]

Jesus, the drama.

Can people play Sony games on Xbox? That's a weird bubble you're living on.

Meanwhile in the real world Sony keeps selling millions of their own games, keeps buying studios left and right and has games like God of War Ragnarok and Spider-Man 2 in development, plus games like Final Fantasy XVI releasing first on their consoles.

Also..."for free" is a weird thing to say considering gamepass costs over 100 dollars per year.

Sony had basically half of the console market in 2021. With the games they are releasing that won't change any time soon.

Your concern for Sony is touching...but considering their investment in their already owned studios and acquiring new ones, i think you're more concerned then they are.

I'm not "concerned" (I assume you mean to imply disingenuous because of bias - takes one to know one).

I'm just interested in games and business and have an opinion on these significant strategic developments.

It's obvious that Microsoft is going hard for Sony's market share, and I think that's going to be a big challenge for Sony in the next 5 to 10 years. That's all. There's no conspiracy ffs.

How they're doing right now is really not that relevant to that larger strategic landscape.

 

[graywolf323]

How is $120 a year obscenely expensive tho? That's cheaper than Netflix lol

heck it's cheaper than Game Pass Ultimate which is the equivalent

hopefully this causes Xbox to introduce discounted annual subscription options

 

[Craig of War]

You don't know if there won't be third party day on on Sony's service... So this point is moot. And about the MS day one games, I don't think PS Users care about those.

You think Sony will pay the big bucks for big 3rd party AAA games?

 

[ethomaz]

As a Playstation owner, I have two general gripes.

Firstly, MS’ backwards compatibility and boost is years ahead of what Sony is offering.

Secondly, whilst I do accept the financial reality of developing AAA software, their current prices are simply too much. If they’re not going to be on a subscription service day one, then that doesn’t mean they have to be 70 pounds either.

Today’s announcement is underwhelming.

I mean it is not like they changed the price.
It still the same as you pay today for PS+ or PS+ and PSNow.
They added a new category that is more expensive.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I am thinking three words about your comment right now, can you guess what they are?

I can think of one word about your comment right now, can you guess what it is?

 

[Ozrimandias]

I'm honestly pretty excited. A little bit of a letdown with the PS3 games only via Streaming but those 400 games from PS4 and PS5 plus that PS1, PS2, and PSP Classics got me in. I think it's pretty competitive if you compare it with Gamepass, I know it's not the same but the value proposition it's there. In fact, PS Plus is an excellent service for me, they give me FFVII Remake so...

 

[Swift_Star]

You heard it here first from Swift_Star , if you aren't in 100% lockstep with Sony business decisions you are a troll.

OH, yeah, let's pretend that the CONCERNED CITIZENS are not trolling.

 

[RoadHazard]

Will they have trophies?

PS Now games do I'm pretty sure? So I don't see why not.

Unless you meant PS1/PS2, which is maybe more doubtful. Definitely technically possible, but would require quite a lot of work for each title.

 

[graywolf323]

You think Sony will pay the big bucks for big 3rd party AAA games?

what makes you think they won't? they've done that for third-party exclusives

You heard it here first from Swift_Star , if you aren't in 100% lockstep with Sony business decisions you are a troll.

And there are a lot of trolls in the PS userbase whenever those PC releases get announced.

there is a lot of trolling going on in this thread and both sides are guilty of doing that here & in other threads

 

[ByWatterson]

itsnothing.gif

 

[DryvBy]

Hahaha I take it you havent looked at the gamepass catalog since the day it dropped right?


I take it you are expecting the 400 to be all AA and AAA titles on PSPlusPlus.

As an FYI just take a look at the PSNow catalog and assume Sony is taking its PS4 games from that catalog plus the 5 theyve listed in the press release.

PlayStation®Plus | Hundreds of games to download and play, PlayStation classics, game trials and more

Join PlayStation Plus on an Essential, Extra or Premium membership plan and get hundreds of PS4 and PS5 games, online multiplayer, classics catalog, exclusive discounts and more.

www.playstation.com

When did I say that? I said a number of games vs a number of games. Don't add words or extra meaning.

 

[TrebleShot]

You think Sony will pay for that? when they won't even include ther own 1st party games

There is zero reason for that.

Except for some indie games they want to help or promote.

Did you read the supporting article from GameIndustry?

Of course they will offer games day 1 from 3rd party, they already do on PS Plus.
Do your reading.

1st party will come eventually, this service is launching lads, takes time to build up. How did GP launch?

 

[Craig of War]

Pretty sure a potato can emulate ps3 nowadays.


Either way Im sticking to the basic sub here, nothing for me in further tiers.

Your wrong you still need a decent PC to emulate PS3 & not a potato PC lol