S0ULZB0URNE
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It looks better on PS5.
You can download both and try them out.
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DF: Cyberpunk 2077 Next-Gen Patch: The Digital Foundry Verdict
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You can download both and try them out.
If you doubt the power of the PS5 SSD, just look at a screenshot of Horizon FW. Pretty cool, right?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
As always I'll leave a summary in a few minutes.
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Shit, Neogaf, when I posted the whole message it got a "enter a valid message" notificación. I'll have to write it all over again.
A spoiler: Pixels counts give Series X an small edge in rez but PS5 performs better in every test, both in Performance and RT mode.
I thought DF said in a month ago they werent doing pixel counts anymore? Or was that another site?
BigLee74
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I don’t doubt its amazing power. But what’s its big advantage here? I can’t decide if it’s making the resolution lower, or the load times slower. Help me out, expert?
carloseduardocd
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Investor9872
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Spitfire098
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Did Series S push PS5 pretty hard in this game or do we have to wait more time?
PaintTinJr
Member
In the other thread, comparing performance to RT mode, there was models - in door scenes - of objects that are supposed to curved that had clearly faceted edges - from using LoDs at too low a level - you'd never see in the last-gen console games, so are you saying the top PC settings has all those models without faceted edges? Genuine question as I haven't tried the game on anything, and still wondering if it is worth my time, when I suspect it'll be in much better shape in 12month's time.
GHG
Gold Member
Is the framerate dependant on whether you use a 4k TV or not? Do you need a 4k TV to experience the better framerate on the PS5?
Didn't think so. In fact, provided you have a PS5 you don't require a 4k TV at all in order to experience what is shown and talked about in the DF video, no crutches or conditionals required.
PaintTinJr
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Why do people keep saying this. VRR as a technology was to give developers more locked choice between 30 and 60 for artistic reasons, and more options above 60, it was not meant to be a frame-rate catcher for poorly performing games that can drop 10 or 20fps from normal, but sadly that's the way nvidia/amd and DF are projecting its use.That PS5 VRR update can't come soon enough so we are done with this at least
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
That's always been the case since Xbox One X hasn't it?
Higher Res but at a cost, and we sit here wondering why they didn't just keep it the same across platforms.
I'm sure the little extra power would benefit the Xbox system in other departments.
Cherrypepsi
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Cyberpunk 2077's next-gen patch tested on PS5 and Xbox Series consoles
Welcome back to Cyberpunk 2077, a game transformed for PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series consoles. The prior 'back-compat p…
www.eurogamer.net
So about that article...
It's funny that they claim there are resolution differences, but they don't say where they found them and in their comparison tool they only include the RT mode, which has no resolution differences
Physiognomonics
Member
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I hope they do continue updating it.
It's acceptable now but there is a lot of stuff which still feels bandaided to get it out the door.
Captain Toad
Banned
Yeah, there was never legitimate debate. The PS4 clearly outperformed the Xbox One. The Xbox One X clearly outperformed PS4 Pro.
But, PS5 and Series X trade blows pretty equally. And by "blows", I mean, no one can even tell the difference until DF tells us the winner and
Riky
brags about the Series's X victory or
Riky
ingores DF and claims Series X won anyway in hopes that no one notices.
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It loads in teraflops more than twice as quickly as the Xbox's. It was in Cerny's presentation.
Pretty cool, right?
Lysandros
Member
If that's the case:
Riky
$MSFT
Did Series S push PS5 pretty hard in this game or do we have to wait more time?
Well this is what DF say....
'All told then, placing PS5 and Series X in RT mode alongside Series S's standard non-RT presentation, all are offering a 1440p30 outlook and all look very similar, with RT only manifesting in an impactful way in select indoor areas"
Maybe if they would have used all the RDNA2 features like my quote, you rather sadly are clinging on to, says then it would have a 60fps mode to.
Team Andromeda
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And the reason why DF says Screen Res isn't that important anymore *rollseyes*
Putonahappyface
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Yeah I remember them saying they would no longer pixel count.
Arioco
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Did Series S push PS5 pretty hard in this game or do we have to wait more time?
YIKES and the crow is real.
Can't blame him with all of those paid shills on twitter and youtube were spreading so much misinformation.
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Having never played cyberpunk due to waiting for the next gen patch i tried it on both series x and ps5. I thought they both ran very similar but decided to buy it on ps5. My two reasons were its more likely to be on game pass free at some point and the haptic feedback on dual sense is great once u turn it down a bit. The df video says what is true the versions are almost the same and anyone claiming different is looking through console war glasses.
rickybooby87
Member
I am glad I waited to play this, I bought the game like a year ago, and promptly uninstalled it because of dem buggies. I do wish they'd of upped some of the scene clutter geometry, but whatevs.
There are cases, and not a few, where XSX has the advantage of resolution and also the same or better framerate...
I don't think it has anything to do with the developers' choice and simply It is a product of circunstances in the development and optimization of the different versions that cannot be exactly identical either.
It is simply that, no matter how similar they are in hardware, they have some difference and also use different APIs. The DRS margins may not work the same, that in specific situations the game code is simply more friendly with the tools of one or the other...
In general, at least as seen in this year and a half, they are possibly the most even consoles in history. Having the exact same architecture and technology it is not surprising what you are seeing.
But no matter how similar they are, there are always aspects that make it very difficult or impossible to make 100% identical versions.
Putonahappyface
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Did Series S push PS5 pretty hard in this game or do we have to wait more time?
Thirty7ven
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PS5 keeps surprising, haters begging for the dreams of a future past.
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MasterCornholio
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Did Series S push PS5 pretty hard in this game or do we have to wait more time?
Is this going to be in every comparison thread?
It’s getting kind of old like the jokes about the tools.
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ChiefDada
Gold Member
I don't think devs put VRR in consideration when making the game. It seems more like Series X performs relatively better with higher resolution output (maybe due to more CUs and more bandwidth) while PS5 performs relatively better at framerate stability (maybe I/O related).
silent head
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CrustyBritches
Gold Member
So the power gap between the XSS and the PS5/XSX was consumed by RT shadows alone?
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
Is not that VRR is an "advantage" on the SeX, what it actually is is an "necessity".
In these topics we masturbate to the strongest console and more often the not it's the PS5 with the bigger stick.
VRR is something that needs to become a universal standard already, that's why it's coming too for the PS5. But until it arrives it's omission is less felt on the PS5 than it would on the SeX.
Seems like devs are really relying on VRR on SeX to deliver "a bit more", but this more is simple too little. 120p extra lines of resolution and not all the time? Not that this is the reason for such massive drops anyway, but devs should lower quality a bit more to ensure 60fps because after all, not all gamers still have a TV that supports VRR. Many people still owns older TV that don't support the spec.
In these topics we masturbate to the strongest console and more often the not it's the PS5 with the bigger stick.
VRR is something that needs to become a universal standard already, that's why it's coming too for the PS5. But until it arrives it's omission is less felt on the PS5 than it would on the SeX.
Seems like devs are really relying on VRR on SeX to deliver "a bit more", but this more is simple too little. 120p extra lines of resolution and not all the time? Not that this is the reason for such massive drops anyway, but devs should lower quality a bit more to ensure 60fps because after all, not all gamers still have a TV that supports VRR. Many people still owns older TV that don't support the spec.
Lysandros
Member
It would be very nice to pixel count these to see if Tom's resolution figures check out, are the pictures provided in the written article in their native form?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Is this going to be in every comparison thread?
It’s getting kind of old like the jokes about the tools.
We will all die but there will still be at least one person screen capping Riky's posts forever.
assurdum
Banned
You expected to have around 10% of more pixels via DRS with worse fps performance?
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skit_data
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I was slightly surprised to see him arrive at the conclusion that PS5 was the better performing out of the two, the way he talked about them led me to believe Series X was performing slightly better on average.
Well, FPS>Resolution in my book. Too bad I don’t wanna give CDPR my money. Might check out the demo, though.
Well, FPS>Resolution in my book. Too bad I don’t wanna give CDPR my money. Might check out the demo, though.
Lysandros
Member
According to NXgamer's analysis PS5 loads slightly faster than XSX.
MasterCornholio
Member
I know he said something really dumb but I’m tired of seeing it. It’s probably going to last until the end of this gen since the XSS will never catch up to the PS5.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It's less than 5%
These small RT features like shadows and reflections are the least efficient use of GPU power I think I've ever seen. Who in their right mind would choose such a tiny improvement to fidelity over something as pervasive as 60fps?
Literally the only case where RT on consoles has been remotely worth the cost has been the GI in Metro Exodus. Complete waste of time otherwise.
kingpotato
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I was kinda interested in the DF video but I really was interested in seeing how Lil' VRR would react and if there would be any fallout.
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Pedro Motta
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Will the PS5 perform worse when the VRR update comes out? Cuz if it does I don't want it.
Topher
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You are not going to look at those small differences in resolution side by side and be able to say which is better. The whole comparison is a wash.
SSfox
Member
Hum i see. DF says the opposite? quite weird!!