And look how Microsoft treated the Zune, Windows Phone, Kin, Kinect, tai.ai
They are no different to any big tech company out there.
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Phil Spencer: Nintendo and Sony are not going to do anything that damages gaming in the long run.
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They are no different to any big tech company out there.
Yoboman
Member
Show me what publishers and developers Google, Facebook and Amazon have bought.Man if you weren't so off-base dumb-concerned over monopolies (this deal BTW doesn't create a monopoly, read up on what a monopoly actually is) you'd recognize the forest from the trees: MS's intentions aren't to "destroy" Sony or Nintendo like fanboys think. Why would they? If Sony or Nintendo are destroyed, that creates a vacuum for Apple, Google, Amazon, Tencent etc. to come in and fill the void.
That doesn't mean they won't be competitive with their newly acquired assets; it just means they aren't out to choke Sony or Nintendo to death. There'll always be some form of Activision-Blizzard (and Zenimax) software support on Sony and Nintendo platforms, especially if those platform holders work out a deal for GamePass on their systems (probably tailored to their ecosystem in some way).
Put it another way: if Microsoft didn't buy Activision-Blizzard, Facebook would've. Or Google. Or Tencent (btw Tencent have shares in Activision-Blizzard they'll still retain post-acquisition). And while all of these major tech/entertainment conglomerates (yes, including Sony) are at least partially involved in things benefiting various governmental bodies that may not be at the peak best interest of us regular folks, out of the companies looking to buy Activision-Blizzard, Microsoft are the least offending of those options by a decent mile.
Also I don't see how you blame the buyer when the seller approached the buyer with the proposition to begin with
CobraAB
Member
MOTM
Banned
MS should hire you instead to run Xbox.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
They are. Only them have games being released on Xbox + PC + xCloud on day 1.
remember_spinal
Banned
How is that different from amazon or google? Outside of those two not having a dedicated box? If anything they’d release on more platforms
If you're not shitting on MS or saying Phil is a piece of shit or that he doesn't know gaming (lol) then your're a troop to these people. Just let them go, it's funnier that way.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
The console, the Windows OS. Until the others having equivalents to all these , MS >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
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Just like i said in the other thread, people quickly forget how the PS brand enter the market...
Grechy34
Member
Why because he has done what a lead of a division at Microsoft is supposed to do?
Gone
Banned
And how's that different from Sony making games like FF or Spiderman exclusive?
Yoboman
Member
How is MS buying two of the biggest publishers in the world different to Marvel giving Sony got the rights to develop a Spiderman game?
You really need that explained?
He even has Dr. in his name. Should go well, according to him, better than a guy that's been in the business for 30 years or more. Starting from the bottom.
They’re literally going to be taking money from Sony to supercharge PlayStation game streaming via Azure. That’s such a strange way to push for streaming monopoly, isn’t it ?
Decent point about Spiderman. You gonna do FF or Street Fighter next?
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oldergamer
Member
ohhh you think this could be leverage to get spiderman on xbox?
Ooofff bringing that shit up, just reminds me how some of you only deal with Sony on a console level. I can attest (owning a Vaio top of the line, a MP3 player and several phones from them going back to the Sony Ericsson ones) they're not better at all, not even close.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
None, thank God and probably MS too.
Sanepar
Member
They own Spiderman. Ff probably is 1 year or 2.
Bonfires Down
Member
Yoboman
Member
A single game exclusivity is not comparable to buying two entire publishers to gate hundreds of games off for the rest of time
Stop with the false equivalence
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
No. They own spiderman rights for movies only.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
WTF would I want to "war" with you? Can you show me one time in my post I mentioned Sony in the context of buying studios? LOL.
Run along little warrior.
I was just messing around, I didn’t want to do it really haha.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Still crying about Spiderman? And meanwhile yelling at people not to whine about all the Zenimax and AB games?
MarkMe2525
Member
Wrong hill to die on. Remember Vita? Virtual boy? Big companies take risks and sometimes they stop supporting when it doesn't pan out.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yep. Marvel actually approached Sony who then approached Insomniac. Marvel told them to pick any character and they chose Spiderman. It is a partnership between all three entities (before Insomniac became part of Sony).
Marvel went to Square Enix and other publishers as well. Thats how Crystal Dynamics got to do Avengers and the Deus Ex devs were given Guardians of the Galaxy.
I wouldnt be surprised if Marvel went to Microsoft as well.
Yoboman
Member
You realise you're agreeing with him, right?
Three games in the list I mentioned, but the numbers are immaterial.
You cannot sit there and claim it’s evil to pay money to keep games in a usually multiplatform series off other platforms, and then see nothing bad when your favorite company does the same thing.
If you’re morally against something, the scale shouldn’t matter
Bottom line is that both companies spend money to keep content to their own platform. It’s become a norm these days.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Spiderman not having a definitive pc version is to cry. Zenimax and AB games will not have a definitive pc version anymore???
Fare thee well
Neophyte
What we really fear is fair competition, new business growth, and a strong middle class economy. I mean, look where that gets you? 
*oh brother*
*oh brother*
GHG
Member
Don't worry, I'm half way through reading it now.
The delusion is strong with some people. I need to find a way to make my customers this brain dead so I can live out the rest of my days in paradise.
Kokoloko85
Member
What did he actually do before spending loads of money on Gamepass?
MatrixReloaded101
Member
No, my point was the companies were vulnerable which made it easier for MS to buy them. If that wasn't the case these acquisitions might not have happened.
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SJRB
Gold Member
Or selling Activision made it possible for Bobby to broker in a golden parachute, instead of getting booted from the company.
Dude is laughing his ass off right now
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GHG
Member
Cut from the same cloth, it's why they dislike each other so much. Sweeney is BTEC Phil.
Gone
Banned
They own the movies rights, not the gaming rights.
Unknown?
Member
I recall him telling us Xbox One had better games than 360. XD
Zeroing
Banned
Acording to him YES! So MS is buying everthing, meanwhile taking away value from Sony and Nintendo and limiting gamer´s choices ...
meanwhile Google, Amazon and Facebook have not shown signs to be disruptive/dangerous to the gaming industry...
Yoboman
Member
The scale does matter and pretending its not is disingenuous
Kokoloko85
Member
Watch when Indiana Jones comes out and no1 complains about it being an exclusive even though MS has no ties to the franchise….
Barakov
Gold Member
Looking forward to that heel turn in 2023.
Quite possibly the dumbest shit I've read in this thread. Are you actually equating the purchase of Insomniac/bluepoint/Housemarque with the purchase of actiblizzard?
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