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Banjo-Kazooie Trailer - Nintendo 64 - Nintendo Switch Online
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Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Nice. Good to see older games getting maintenance so newer generations can enjoy them too.
Thoroughly enjoyed the Rare Replay on Xbox myself and with my kids, Banjo Kazooie especially with my daughter. Good on Ninty.
Thoroughly enjoyed the Rare Replay on Xbox myself and with my kids, Banjo Kazooie especially with my daughter. Good on Ninty.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Loved it back then. Never got around to the second one. Might pay for the expansion at this point.
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I collect VHS tapes
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How is the quality of emulation of these games? been meaning to check it out
Never really got the Mario 64 comparison. 3D platformer vs. collectathon. Completely different games.
Alter_Fridge
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Ah teh memories. 1997, 1998 and 1999 was all N64 for me
ResilientBanana
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Reserved for Mario 64.
Scotty W
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I don’t notice any differences, but a lot of fanatics whine about it.
Bullet Club
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It's not like every NSO game gets it's own thread.
This is a beloved Nintendo 64 game that is owned by Microsoft, so it coming to the Switch is a bit more special than Pupperazzi showing up on Game Pass.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Lots of really great games on Gamepass I'd love to make a thread for that get no attention buried in page 300 of the gamepass thread...... it's not different.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Replayed this on 2021 on my N64 and man, it was as fun as ever.
Surprisingly short too. As a kid I could spend weeks playing this, but this time I beat the game in 3 days or so.
Anyway, everyone should check it out. One of my favorites on the 64 and overall one of the best platformers I've played.
Surprisingly short too. As a kid I could spend weeks playing this, but this time I beat the game in 3 days or so.
Anyway, everyone should check it out. One of my favorites on the 64 and overall one of the best platformers I've played.
Kuranghi
Member
If you ignore the small issues that pedants like me go on about that most won't notice then its a good effort, its just they only really go an extra 100 yards, rather than mile with how they remaster it, ie not fixing things that are easily fixed on modern HW like precision of 2D effects and smoothing out the framerate (which isn't easily fixed, but would be good to try considering fans have done things without having access to what Nintendo have).
In short, its fine/good. If you have a PC it might be better there, but thats not portable ofc. Steam Deck should solve that though.
Dr.brain64
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I've been spoiled by the xbox (my one x) version. I don't know if I want the lag and all that.
IbizaPocholo
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Mufausa The 3rd
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Why is the game rated T?
Deerock71
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Bear boobies.
ManaByte
Gold Member
kanjobazooie
Mouse Ball Fetishist
The T is probably for NSO itself. You'll have to pay for the service to play BK, and it comes with T rated games.
It actually has human boobies. (spoiler?)
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Neff
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'Completely different' is a huge stretch. There's a definite overlap of structure/concepts/mechanics, and Banjo was clearly inspired by SM64.
That said though, they do prioritise different things and their respective strengths lie in different areas.
The biggest influence is the overworld imo. Outside of that, they have an overlap in structure/concepts but they focus on completely different things. Banjo is very much a collectathon through and through, whereas Mario 64 is a platformer. Banjo has elements of platforming and Mario elements of collecting but they both take a very big backseat. They're almost the inverse of each other in many ways.
Banjo is a much slower movement system with very little focus on precise movements and more focus on choosing the right tool from a pretty large and consistently growing moveset. It's focused on collecting things through and through and that's done primarily through exploration, some light puzzle solving, etc. Sure, there's "platforming" but not in the more challenging, precision focused sense of a Mario.
Mario 64 is a platformer through and through. Sure, you're "collecting" stars but most of them really just serve to mark the end of the level (they even kick you out of the level when you collect the star). You have pretty much your entire moveset from the start and the things that are added eventually are incredibly situational and not even available majority of the time. Your moveset also makes you incredibly quick and precise which is a huge contrast to Banjo's (riding Kazooie is kinda the closest you can get to this).
Anyway. I think Mario 64 is the better game. Banjo is up there though. Just hard to compare them directly, similar to SMW vs. DKC2 (though those are a lot more similar).
Banjo64
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NeoIkaruGAF
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Switch looks a little softer and brighter, otherwise seems pretty close (Switch won’t go up to 4K, obviously).
Framerate is unfortunately untouched, meaning it’ll be as painful on a huge OLED screen as the XBox version.
SleepySlippy
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Xbox version is obviously the crispest one. Doesn't mean that it's the best: HD clashes with low poly and SD textures, bothers my sense of harmony. But stable 30fps is the king feature.
On Switch I personnally like the fidelity "choice" of keeping the original 4:3 ratio, but I'm not sure if it really is important with that game. Less crisp than Xbox, but HD nonetheless. No 30fps is a bummer, even if it would have been a most surprising feature given that it's emulation.
Interesting to see that in the end, the most consistent version is the N64 one. SD textures fit well with SD.
The best version is the one that doesn't exist: small definition, high stable framerate.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Neff
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In fairness they did say they were 'taking criticisms seriously' after the massive backlash they faced, so it's not completely improbable. They caved under pressure to reinstate 60hz Wii U BC games in Europe after a huge Miiverse campaign, for example.
OldBoyGamer
Banned
I’m torn as to which version of this to play now.
Do I go original N64? Xbox360 HD version or this new switch version?
If I go switch I’ll have to upgrade my sub. Which I don’t mind doing if the emulation is top notch.
Side note. I really wish they’d do something about that animal crossing Dlc. I don’t have AC so it’s completely useless to me.
Do I go original N64? Xbox360 HD version or this new switch version?
If I go switch I’ll have to upgrade my sub. Which I don’t mind doing if the emulation is top notch.
Side note. I really wish they’d do something about that animal crossing Dlc. I don’t have AC so it’s completely useless to me.
lostinblue
Banned
Xbox or N64 for me.
Switch emulation is not very good I see texture artifacts due to texture filtering+tiling on the Switch (which always looked hideous for me on emulators), the only advantage is that you can spend extra and use a N64 controller with it.
The issue is how low-budget this whole endeavour is, remember the problems with Wii U N64 emulation, against the Wii emulation previously? This was because the emulator was done on NST (Nintendo Software Technology) in US by a guy, that guy left. Boom.
The Wii U campaign you mention only made them change the ROM's they were using, didn't make them improve the hideous emulator. Here is a good video on that, I guess.
This emulator (along with the Gamecube/Wii one) was commissioned to the NES mini and SNES mini team, NERD (Nintendo European Research and Development) who previously did the NDS emulator for the Wii U, it was commissioned to be compatible with more games than the ones on Super Mario 3D All Stars but clearly had a short deadline to it and wasn't developed further, I assume Nintendo put the guys doing something else or they just moved on.
This is a very small team and there's no one stopping people in there from moving on once they get a good resume.
It's really not worth your money, IMO. They don't even add widescreen support for a handheld that is widescreen.
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Banjo64
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If you already have an n64 and CRT then buy the original cart. If you are on a 4k or 1080p set and have an Xbox, play the remaster. Switch last as the emulation is shoddy.
lostinblue
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Mario 64 has shit camera. Banjo wins by default.
lostinblue
Banned
N64? Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie and Perfect Dark. All ported by 4J Studios.I have a Switch collecting dust, not gonna play this on a Switch.
But wait, I have a brand new XSX, and I'm downloading the whole Rare Replay collection(30 games I believe), from GamePass, right now
Viva Pinata: TIP is the first.
So, which Games are remastered ?
The rest are probably better emulated than their Switch counterparts
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lostinblue
Banned
^ Hold your expectations.
Microsoft owns the IP and they've shown in the past that they don't know what to do with it (plus, the BK team left Rare aeons ago and I'm not sure they still have it judging by how deadpan and by the book stuck in the past yooka laylee was).
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Diddy X
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lostinblue
Banned
I'd love to see it.