Magic Carpet
Member
Moved my Xbone X to the bedroom where it now plays Simpson episodes off Disney+.
One ep a night and Im only jp to season 17.
One ep a night and Im only jp to season 17.
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The Verge: Microsoft has discontinued all Xbox One consoles
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clem84
Gold Member
Aren't the series S and X consoles completely backward compatibles with all Xbox One games anyway?/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6872953/tpina_160731_1175_0065.0.jpg)
Microsoft has discontinued all Xbox One consoles
Xbox Series X / S consoles were the main focus for 2021.www.theverge.com
edit: ah, all except the ones that required Kinect.
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DaGwaphics
Member
Are the silicone wafers themselves different between processes or the same? I have no idea about that on a technical level.
At any rate, spend every $, every man hour, etc. on the new generation please. I applaud the decision.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Nah, those game rates dont tell the whole story. Hardcore gamers who buy the console spend more on games than late adopters. Sony gave us numbers and it was $1,700 vs $700 late adopters.
We also have data from last gen that shows how KZSF and Infamous both outsold their predecessors which launched on last gen consoles. Despite a small launch window userbase.
We know that MGSV sold literally 5% on the PS3 and Xbox 360 and it came out in the second year of the PS4 just like Horizon, GOW, GT7 will this year.
Both next gen consoles are selling faster than ever and the hardcore gamers who buy games on day one at full price are buying games already. The folks you are talking about how bargain bin hunters who buy slim versions only on black friday when they go on sale for $199 and will almost never buy a game at full price. So they dont really matter when it comes to AAA sales anyway. They will buy the game 2-3 years later anyway.
Lone Wolf
Member
Its not suicidal. The new consoles are fully backwards compatible. The new consoles fill in for the old ones as well. Microsoft also offers streaming, PC, and a $300 console option in its place.
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kingfey
Banned
they are much different. With technology advancing, older one wont work on new devices.
The bigger would be cost savings. They know their competitor has more chips, so they will need to push the production faster, and freeing as many warehouses as they can.
kingfey
Banned
If you put it that way, then I guess going all full in on next gen wont hurt them.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Pretty sure yes. Although maybe there's some obscure handful of games that dont work. Not sure.
kingfey
Banned
In term of game sales. but
SlimySnake
said that its the hardcore people who buy the games day1. So i guess I jumped on it early.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Who here actually believes that statement was a debacle?
remember_spinal
Banned
i bet Phil’s handprint is still red on Tom Warrens ass
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Only in the great baby nuts wars, a high demand for a product is considered... a debacle.
Tripolygon
Banned
An Olympics level of mental gymnatics. Lol
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I dont know how much tech specs it used up but that HDMI IN tv watching while playing games was awesome. Watching a hockey game while playing an offline game (with adjustable sound per thing) was sweet. And the Xbox TV guide looked better and was faster than my Rogers cable channel guide.
Only problem was the TV feed only ran at half speed while playing a game. But ran at normal speed if not playing. Audio was fine either way.
Only problem was the TV feed only ran at half speed while playing a game. But ran at normal speed if not playing. Audio was fine either way.
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Ya, this is just a pr move. Time will tell if it is correct.
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Lone Wolf
Member
How is this a PR move?
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Bold move.
Microsoft went back in time to discontinue the Xbox One in 2020 as a PR response to Sony's statement in Jan 2022?
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iHaunter
Member
They did the math, it would take years to speed by production, by then the demand will be met already. Microsoft's Xbox division spent BILLIONS on acquisitions, probably not enough budget to spend on overhauling an old factory.
sainraja
Member
Sony's been consistent. Microsoft has generally have moved on to the new gen right away — the exception, as you have pointed out, was the Xbox 360.
Topher
Gold Member
I'm still trying to figure out how Jim Ryan's "we believe in generations" was translated into "no more first party PS4 games". I know that's why people keep repeating those four words, but it doesn't really jive with the rest of what he said. Either way, too much was made of Microsoft's decision to support Xbox One for a year after launch just as too much is being made of the life cycle of last gen consoles.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Console wars.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
The "We believe in generation" was always taken out of context. Hey always said it was a comparison with the PS4 and it's features compared with the PS5 new console/controller features.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
ManaByte
Gold Member
'We believe in generations:' PlayStation argues cross-gen games risk stifling innovation
“As we’ve said many times, with PlayStation 5 it’s a brand new generation, and we believe in generations. So we want to evolve every part of the experience. ” “In many cases, we can’t take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next generation experience],” Lempel tells Keighley...
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Lol.
Its funny how old stuff become so bad for some people.
But I have an OG Model in my bedroom, and I sometimes think that compared to other systems it does not feel completely obsolete, all media apps and browser work great on it and on a 1080p TV a lot of games are still play perfectly fine.
I mean, I get that its not something you want as your main console attached to a 50+ 4k tv, but compared to prior gens games are not broken.
Also if the X1 is the worst console of all time, then logically the PS4 must be your slightly less worst console of all time because they are very similar systems.
Kacho
Gold Member
lol
It was WIDELY reported in that context. He made no moves to correct the narrative if it was out of context.
I somehow doubt the gaming press were influenced by console wars when they were using that quote to drag Xbox by the balls in mid 2020.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Clickbait titles that drive wars, oh my sweet summer child.
And then the forum and social media wars as a result.
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TransTrender
Gold Member
Kind of surprising since they wanted to support multiple generations of products, but also....
Not nearly as fast as the original XBOX and the XBOX 360. Those things officially ended production practically before their replacements were launched.
Topher
Gold Member
'We believe in generations:' PlayStation argues cross-gen games risk stifling innovation
“As we’ve said many times, with PlayStation 5 it’s a brand new generation, and we believe in generations. So we want to evolve every part of the experience. ” “In many cases, we can’t take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next generation experience],” Lempel tells Keighley...www.neogaf.com
And?
"In many cases, we can't take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next-generation experience]. You need new hardware, you need new devices to experience what these developers want you to experience."
Then goes on to talk about Ratchet and Clank being one of those cases. So, again, where does he say "no more first party PS4 games"?
'We believe in generations:' PlayStation argues cross-gen games risk stifling innovation
"In many cases, we can't take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next-generation experience]. You need new hardware, you need new devices to experience what these developers want you to experience."
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
But theAnd?
"In many cases, we can't take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next-generation experience]. You need new hardware, you need new devices to experience what these developers want you to experience."
Then goes on to talk about Ratchet and Clank being one of those cases. So, again, where does he say "no more first party PS4 games"?
'We believe in generations:' PlayStation argues cross-gen games risk stifling innovation
"In many cases, we can't take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next-generation experience]. You need new hardware, you need new devices to experience what these developers want you to experience."
Posted in here by a user who knows what clickbait is and does complain about it himself.
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Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Uhm he did correct it...because you know the media can't even read these days but just shoot everything on the internet for clicks.
Lognor
Banned
He doesn't say no more PS4 games.'We believe in generations:' PlayStation argues cross-gen games risk stifling innovation
“As we’ve said many times, with PlayStation 5 it’s a brand new generation, and we believe in generations. So we want to evolve every part of the experience. ” “In many cases, we can’t take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next generation experience],” Lempel tells Keighley...
"We believe in generations" means we will continue to support multiple generations for a long period to come. You will still get new AAA gmaes on your PS4 in 2023. But those cross gen games on PS5, you still need to play them with a Dual Sense controller because....reasons.
GHG
Gold Member
I purchased 5 games for the console across it's lifetime. That's far lower than any other platform I've ever owned, by order of magnitude. In comparison I bought that same amount of games in the first 3 months of my owning an Xbox 360.
If you want to play alternate history games where suddenly it was this amazing console with a strong and steady flow of compelling exclusive games then be my guest. While you're at it let's also write to Phil Spencer and ask him to undo all of the recent studio acquisitions (and general effort they've made with first party), because they clearly weren't needed right? Everything was great as it was, amazing.
Mr Moose
Member
I thought it was the One X and One SAD that were discontinued then? It was all of them?"end of 2020", so production ceased over a year ago.
Why are people reporting this now....
Team Andromeda
Member
It was all bar the One S and that was mainly for the server Blades
Although it was just the X and One S digital. It wasn't officially announced if they discontinued the One S regular.
Lucifers Beard
Member
Makes sense to be honest. It’s been over a year since the launch of the Series consoles and it won’t be long before games just cannot run on the older Jaguar CPU.
Team Andromeda
Member
The point was MS was dropping most of its support for the One Xbox.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
He doesn't, but it certainly doesn't sound like someone intending to do cross gen for marquee titles.And?
"In many cases, we can't take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next-generation experience]. You need new hardware, you need new devices to experience what these developers want you to experience."
Then goes on to talk about Ratchet and Clank being one of those cases. So, again, where does he say "no more first party PS4 games"?
'We believe in generations:' PlayStation argues cross-gen games risk stifling innovation
"In many cases, we can't take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next-generation experience]. You need new hardware, you need new devices to experience what these developers want you to experience."
You read that and think PS4 exclusive game release will be practically non existent, especially a year after the PS5 has been on the market.
Sony would of seen the sentiment online that PS5 was not about crossgen, but they did nothing to address this wrong information.
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Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Since when is a console only judged by its exclusive games?
No doubt the PS4 had better and more exclusives.
But Xbox one still had an amazing catalogue of games.
And then theres the other factors which determin how good a console was
The Xbox one was silent and did the impossible that was BC.
KingGhidorah
Banned
the timing of this announcement is impeccable! (after a report saying Sony to produce more PS4).....that tells you who's confident moving forward, who's not
Mr Moose
Member
More PS5s get produced than Series consoles, so yeah, maybe.
Great. Post the link to the correction, please.
GHG
Gold Member
Did I or did I not say for me in my original post? I don't know what you're attempting to dispute here when I'm communicating my personal experience/thoughts?
And yes that is exactly how I judge consoles, the bulk of my 3rd party purchases are made elsewhere.
I don't see what's so funny. This was obviously a long planned announcement. There is zero chance that someone at MS was feeding its more passionate fans a talking point about someone else focusing on the wrong priorities. Phil is on record being anti-console war I think, so no chance this was designed to fan any flames. None, zero, nada.Tom Warrior article?
Tom Warrior article.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
GG MS move to current gen asap and the Series s is a better option than a one s. Just a shame it doesn't have a drive for those that would want it.