StateofMajora
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Texture streaming issues, textures won’t fully load in places.
I have been crying for a ps5 patch so we can get 1440p+ and 60fps and the issue would be fixed but bluepoint don’t seem to care.
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Sony Is Dealing With PlayStation 5 Shortage by Making More PS4s (only producing about 1 million for the entire year)
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I have been crying for a ps5 patch so we can get 1440p+ and 60fps and the issue would be fixed but bluepoint don’t seem to care.
skit_data
Member
Ah, yeah there are a few of those types of issues just like all ”full BC”-games. It’s not much different from any other PS4 games, and it at least offers a 60fps mode unlike many other.
I thought you meant it had crashes/glitches different to most other games.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Making 1 million more PS4's is just to generate a little more revenue with through the supply pipelines.
It's not going to change Sony's plans at all.
It's not going to change Sony's plans at all.
I mean, it's Sony who transformed "We believe in generations" statement to releasing all (announced) first-party games as a cross-gen games 2 years after PS5 came out.
So I would not place my bets on that...
ZehDon
Gold Member
I clicked looking for this exact post, glad I wasn't disappointed
Airbus Jr
Banned
Still failed to see the corelation betweeen sony keep producing ps4 and the connection with crossgen
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nosferatu93
Banned
Sad shit good hardware finally but shit software and crossgen 4 ever and no consoles
Corelation is that Sony can change it's plans to accommodate their business to situation. For example by making more their first-party games cross-gen way into 2023...
...same as they did with 2022 lineup when the found out that supply chain and production is fucked.
Remember, their goal was migrate players to the next gen as fast as possible. That's why games like Forbidden West, GT7 etc. were announced as PS5 games. But then world has gone to shit, so they had to alter their plans. And same can be done for next year.
Airbus Jr
Banned
And so is that a problem for you?
Pro tip sony still producing older console doesnt mean they abandoned their new one
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No problem for me.
I was reacting to the phrase "It's not going to change Sony's plans at all."
It changed Sony's plans and it will change Sony's plans in future.
skit_data
Member
I don’t think +/- 1 million PS4 consoles will be the deciding factor tbh.
Airbus Jr
Banned
I think you are overeacting abit
Sony isnt the only one producing crossgen games
Plenty other developer do similar crossgen games ( microsoft with halo infinite, forza horizon 5, ubisoft, capcom, EA etc)
Its the norm back then during early ps4 days ( plenty game getting ported to ps3 and sony isnt the only one doing that) and theres nothing unusual about it
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Well I think if there still selling ps4 and can’t produce enough ps5 they will still do more crossgen for longer. I mean if they gonna sell another million ps4 they ain’t gonna suddenly say to those new customers we not giving you new games anymore.
skit_data
Member
They already have a library of games for those new customers.
I mean, it has worked fine for… pretty much all previous consoles that were sold after the introduction of a new gen.
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It's true that many companies are producing cross-gen games but
1. Nobody except Sony ever said "we believe in generations"
2. Xbox execs literally said that they will release cross-gen stuff in first year-two after next-gen is release and people shat on them because of that. But in 2022 whole first-party Xbox lineup (Starfield, Redfall, Forza Motorsport) is next-gen only.
3. It is not a norm for first-party devs to release their games as a cross-gen (that was a reason why people shat on Microsoft for their cross-gen support). There are exceptions of course (God of War II, Breath of the Wild, Forza Horizon 2) but rule of the thumb is that when new console arrives, first party teams migrates to the new console immediately. How many first-party cross gen games were released during X360/PS3 - XOne/PS4 transition?
phil_t98
#SonyToo
I don’t think in the past the console manufacturers have had to compensate shortages like this befor, that’s my point
Could be a youtube thumbnail
skit_data
Member
And nobody except Spencer ever said ”We don’t believe in generations” before which is the context for Ryans quote. Which is a stupid quote that everybody disagrees with, especially the ones that keep repeating Ryans quote.
C’mon, this is so old its fucking tiresome.
Edit: Ok, Spencer didn’t really express it that explicitly but he said ”Generational exclusives are counter to what gaming is about”
Xbox boss says generation exclusives are ‘completely counter to what gaming is about’ | VGC
Spencer gives impassioned speech about Xbox’s cross-gen strategy…
www.videogameschronicle.com
Edit: More context, Spencer on the topic of crossgen games. ”Held back is a meme” etc:
Are Xbox Series X developers being held back by Xbox One?
This is part of a series of features with Xbox Game Studios. Check out the teams discuss life as a Microsoft-owned comp…
www.gamesindustry.biz
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nush
Member
You know why the Super Famicom was late to market? Or the Arcade card for the PC Engine?
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Edgelord79
Gold Member
Not sure why this article is a big deal? Not much to read from this than they are producing a relatively small amount of PS4's for global distribution for the year.
One million more PS4's in the wild over the course of a year isn't going to change whatever cross generational plans Sony already had.
One million more PS4's in the wild over the course of a year isn't going to change whatever cross generational plans Sony already had.
Airbus Jr
Banned
You seems to be very concerned about this
I believe the best suggestion to this by ignore the last gen version on every game and focus on the new one
Hope that helps have a nice day
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
Being late to the market is a bit different, the ps5 isn’t late to the market it launched on time. Just issues with manufacturing enough. Can’t wait to get mine still
Riky
$MSFT
Yes they have to make games for those new last gen customers, which to be fair they are as HFW, GT7 and GOTR are all coming to PS4. Maybe they will factor PS4 into some later titles too.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
That million number will rise if the market shows there’s a demand for it. I can absolutely guarantee that. Becuase, one of the main reasons Sony will be doing this is to secure more manufacturing and better deals overall by increasing their volume of output with their manufacturers.
can you even buy a ps4 new currently? I wish they would just make the pro and find a way to make it cheaper. A base PS4 in 2022 is not great.
can you even buy a ps4 new currently? I wish they would just make the pro and find a way to make it cheaper. A base PS4 in 2022 is not great.
nush
Member
Jaguar was on time.
Let me just remind you the comment you made of "This has never happened before" was wrong and now you are moving the goalposts.
Hobbygaming
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This. I'm not surprised to see certain individuals take this as meaning that Sony is prolonging crossgen development though
phil_t98
#SonyToo
This. I'm not surprised to see certain individuals take this as meaning that Sony is prolonging crossgen development though
I am saying it’s a possibility, do you not think that?
Surely you got to see that if the number is true another million ps4 sold then the market is still going to be there for new games ont eh console?
am happy to be wrong if I am
Hobbygaming
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Those new PS4 customers have a whole backlog day 1 featuring thousands of games
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Yes they will but you don’t sell hardware on the back catalogue you sell on what’s coming out, mostly the new games this year are on ps4 as well so that could be it.
Hobbygaming
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No. They have a huge selection to choose from already. PS is already hitting the ceiling with what they can do with crossgen games, they'll surely move past that especially when you'll have 3rd party titles using new engines like UE5 in 1 year
phil_t98
#SonyToo
UE5 also works on the ps4 and was made to be scaleable. It even works on a switch. Yes I want cross gen to end asap but with the shortages of next gen consoles I think it will be prolonged a bit longer than we hoped
Hobbygaming
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It's the same as price drops on consoles. The new customer gets access to the whole library of that console but misses out on most of the newest stuff
PropellerEar
Member
Of course back catalogue is a factor in selling Hardware.
PC gamers update, just to play old games.
Most Xbox guys in here were all about BC, November 10, 2020.
Hobbygaming
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Good point on UE5 but I hugely doubt Sony will force most devs to break themselves trying to get more juice out of the PS4 in 2023, 2024...
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Back compact is totally different, if that’s the case why not buy a ps3 instead as that’s got a shit ton of games.
people want new games as well as the library that’s already on there
kyussman
Member
I'm not playing all their big new exclusives on my PS4,I'm just not.....I love moving on every generation and getting the benefits of the new tech.I'm done with PS4,I'm not playing worse versions of big games on it.....I'll just continue having time off from gaming until I can easily order a PS5 here in the UK(if that ever happens,lol).
phil_t98
#SonyToo
Yeah I am hoping so. There will be things that the ps4 wont be able to do but consoles are like pcs these days and its all scalable. Doesn’t mean it will be good on last gen hardware but it can be there.
PropellerEar
Member
I bet I could sell my old PS3 if i wanted to.
Of course people want new games, you're seeing issues where there are none.
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skit_data
Member
That’s what some people do and that’s why production of PS3s ceased in 2017:
This is really no different.
Edit: If we use previous gens as a comparison the last PS4s to be produced should be sometime in 2025, so we got a long way to go.
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Physiognomonics
Member
Exactly. The real anomaly is why did they want to stop PS4 earlier than with their previous consoles. It always striked me as very odd as their main point was to sell games and services, not consoles. And currently most PS5 are playing PS4 games.The PS2 was produced for 12 years.
The PS3 was produced for 11 years.
But go on, keep on pretending to have memory loss.
And what about Pro? I am sure plenty of people would gladly buy a Pro while waiting for a PS5. Just stupid from Jim. In the future they'll have to backpedal others of his decisions, like their current price strategy.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
no surprise here , demand for playstation is there , be it ps5 or ps4
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I can't for the life of me figure out how this solving any problems. All I see is this hogging resources that could be used to produce PS5s.
Haggard
Banned
Different node sizes, parts and production lines. Stopping PS4 production wouldn`t do anything for the PS5.
Little Chicken
Member
I feel like they should dump the PS4 and replace it with the PS4 Pro, perhaps position it as a Series S competitor.