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Sony announces PlayStation VR2 and Sense Controllers at CES
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Is 110 degrees industry leading? I remember the field of view bothering me a bit on the original PSVR.
yurinka
Member
With all these cameras, a 4K OLED display, motion tracking, eyetracking, rumble and the rest of the stuff... I think it won't be cheap. It would be great to have it for $299 but I see a $399 (or more) launch price.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
OH. MY. VR. GOD.
EXCITATION LEVEL = INFINITY
I will NOT miss the preorder, FUCK YOU right now scalpers.
EXCITATION LEVEL = INFINITY
I will NOT miss the preorder, FUCK YOU right now scalpers.
Too bad for you, it will be sold out everywhere when you will bite.
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prinz_valium
Member
No.
PS5 only.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Really hyped about foveated rendering and eye-tracking. The next gen of VR.
Reallink
Member
This is the bargain basement model they plan to sell for $199 on Black Friday, there will inevitably be a wireless "Pro" or "Version 2" at a later date.
Naw this is gonna be $499 probably and maybe a wireless add on and battery pack for another $150 or so
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I truly doubt this thing will be anywhere near $199. It sounds pretty damn high end expect for the wire. I'm calling $399 (which would still be cheap for this tech, might be $499).
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ethomaz
Banned
Wired = same high quality experience to everybody.
Wireless = inconstant quality across the board.
It is a easy choice… we are in a fixed hardware setup… not PC where you have to deal with different setups to make it works.
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HTC Vive Focus 3 is 116, index is 107 but basically its the best you are probably getting in it's assumed price range.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol yes, $399 with nothing. $499 with controllers.
Rivet
Member
I say $399 with controllers, they'd be afraid asking $499, looks too dangerous. I think they'd prefer taking a loss if needed. But yh, with that tech, $399 would be the absolute minimum.
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ethomaz
Banned
My first dream is Capcom making it works in Village.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Imagine debuting your game with writing that terrible, lol.
balls of snow
Member
Who will make an open world vr game. Im scared it will be relegated to bite size experience like psvr 1 sans Resi 7.
LordOfChaos
Member
Can these be used on PCs, and are there any major limits to that compared to using a dedicated PC VR headset? Looks appealing, if there's not much lock in
ethomaz
Banned
To be fair it can if somebody create a driver for it… probably with a lot of issues until get really workable.
Well you can hope Sony do the driver themselves without reverse engineering so you have a workable drive from day one.
But if you look at PSVR the chances are very very slim.
This is the reverse engineering driver you can use for PSVR: https://www.trinusvirtualreality.com/psvr/
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
I mean, with a fixed hardware setup they could offer wireless that is the same for everybody, not going via whatever router one may have but their own transmitter/receiver plugging in the same usb c ports the cable will. They probably will offer that option (+ battery for the HMD) eventually.
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I used to do experiments with the PSEye motion tracking & 180fps felt better
Reallink
Member
Keyword there was "Black Friday". PSVR1 also launched at $399 and $499, but was running $199 Holiday sales within a year or two. PSVR2 will similarly "launch" around $399 - $499, but will be heavily discounted by its first or second Holiday (depending on when exactly it releases).
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ethomaz
Banned
That is how they did with Vita Remote Play except when you moved from place to place the quality got big hits.
That is why I don’t think that will work with PSVR2.
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I didn't say anything about 4K 240fps I said a 240fps option
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Where I am you definitely couldn't find the original at half off within a year or two, but I guess that varies.
PSVR didn’t set the world on fire and there weren’t the same supply chain limitations like there are right now.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Just don’t understand Sony’s obsesssion with VR, and now they are even acquiring studios for this bs.
Kerotan
Member
They'll definitely sell all they can make for €500 and considering I skipped the first VR and have a nice backlog of free games I'm willing to jump in.
I'll pre order day 1 because I'm not dealing with the hassle of scampers or it sold out. Sony will keep this thing at €500 until they need to lower the price and even then they will probably just enable pc support to drive extra sales at the higher price.
Can anybody tell me if there's any sort of a component shortage that would limit sony's ability to produce a certain number of these?
If there's not it might support pc day 1 but I'm not sure sony would want to push vr on pc over the ps5.
Imo it's a good investment as a ps5 pro will give it longevity and boost framerates from 90 to 120fps for games that can't make it. Probably will boost resolution too.
It's basically their vita and psp effort from that past. Similar amount of resources but it works better because it's compatible with their main platform the ps5. So ultimately it helps push ps5 sales.
I'll pre order day 1 because I'm not dealing with the hassle of scampers or it sold out. Sony will keep this thing at €500 until they need to lower the price and even then they will probably just enable pc support to drive extra sales at the higher price.
Can anybody tell me if there's any sort of a component shortage that would limit sony's ability to produce a certain number of these?
If there's not it might support pc day 1 but I'm not sure sony would want to push vr on pc over the ps5.
Imo it's a good investment as a ps5 pro will give it longevity and boost framerates from 90 to 120fps for games that can't make it. Probably will boost resolution too.
It's basically their vita and psp effort from that past. Similar amount of resources but it works better because it's compatible with their main platform the ps5. So ultimately it helps push ps5 sales.
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Elysion
Banned
Are there no pictures of the headset, or am I missing something? I mean, PSVR2 was already announced last year, so it’s kind of weird if there are still no pictures of the headset itself.
And why does Horizon VR look like a PS4 game? I’d hoped that foveated rendering would save enough performance that next gen VR games can look just as good as regular next gen games.
And why does Horizon VR look like a PS4 game? I’d hoped that foveated rendering would save enough performance that next gen VR games can look just as good as regular next gen games.
Buggy Loop
Member
Being a console and the manufacturer set the chips to communicate between them, it would be been way easier for them to actually have a good experience across the board, compared to PC where wifi6 chipsets, routers, PC network adapters etc, are so mixed up. It's favorable to them.
Big missed opportunity. With rumours of even Valve's next headset being wireless, i don't see the industry going back to wires. Like, let the same charging port be also an alternative to plug permanently if some interference at home is making the experience suck. But for everyone where it would work nice? Missed opportunity.
onesvenus
Member
This looks quite great! Quite similar to the Quest 2 on paper with eye tracking and HDM feedback. Let's see how they price this thing but either they lose some money or it won't be pretty.
Flawless for me. I have an Oculus link cable and I haven't touched it since they released Air link.
Yeah, let's pretend having options, like the Quest 2 does, is a bad thing. You could use it with the cable for some experiences and without for other type of them
ManaByte
Gold Member
Being a console and the manufacturer set the chips to communicate between them, it would be been way easier for them to actually have a good experience across the board, compared to PC where wifi6 chipsets, routers, PC network adapters etc, are so mixed up. It's favorable to them.
Big missed opportunity. With rumours of even Valve's next headset being wireless, i don't see the industry going back to wires. Like, let the same charging port be also an alternative to plug permanently if some interference at home is making the experience suck. But for everyone where it would work nice? Missed opportunity.
It almost feels like going with cartridges when your two biggest competitors are already using CDs. Maybe Facebook could lend Carmack to Sony to get a PS version of AirLink working?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
It's not hard to warn people to not go too far, that hardly qualifies as a different experience for everyone, and they could also always make it so you don't even need a TV if you're VR-ing (to set up, launch game etc) and thus can take the PS5 to your chosen play space even if it's not @ the TV/LR.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
James Sawyer Ford
What do you think? Looks like all the rumored specs were true and this thing is a monster.
Rivet
Member
I don't know, Alyx works well wirelessly on Quest 2, I didn't feel that many instabilities, it worked. And that was with Wifi 5, PS5 is Wifi 6, which adds a lot for that kind of things iirc.
Thing is if they add wireless and allow PC connection too, they'd have the ultimate headset by a good margin, especially with big games on it. It would sell so well... Looks like a missed opportunity if it's technically possible.
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ethomaz
Banned
Well REVII experience is great.
But…
REVII VR experience is one of the very best gaming experience in my life.
That is a huge difference for me.
So I hope Sony continue focusing in VR.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Roomscale guardians are there to keep you from going outside a defined space. No reason why the same can't be applied to wireless distance.
DarthBuzzer
Member
Enjoying your DualSense? You have VR to thank for that.
Just be glad that Sony is focusing on immersion.
Gamerguy84
Member
Specs look good. I'd rather have wireless but not a deal breaker. Keeps the cost down a bit and I'm sure the wire is thin and light.
There's only so far you can roam with a headset stopped to your face while playing a game anyway.
Day 1 for me.
There's only so far you can roam with a headset stopped to your face while playing a game anyway.
Day 1 for me.
Reallink
Member
If supply chain and shipping crises last beyond Holiday 2023, the sale price of a VR videogame will probably be the least of your worries. They are also competing with a 15+ million Facebook user base where "Quest" is as synonymous with VR as "Playstation" or "Nintendo" are with videogame consoles.
I am of course assuming US American Dollars. It launched October 2016 @ $399 for the base model, and was $199 by Feb 2018.
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remember_spinal
Banned
Astro Bot probably, maybe spider-man or uncharted. Gran Turismo
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In HL Alyx a quest using a cable has an app to photon latency of 48 to 50ms, using Airlink it's 58 to 60ms. Virtual Desktop measures latency differently and reports a 40 ms motion to photon. As for battery it works until your out of battery which is about 2 - 3 hours. You can use it while it charges like a wired experience if you can handle having something strapped to your head for longer than 3 hours and need to keep going.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Serious question: Have you played wireless room scale VR at all?
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
VR will be relevant in 2032, when consoles are not. Sony likes selling hardware.