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arvfab

Banned
Its starting to make a lot more sense to me why Yamauchi was mad about Driveclub existing,no doubt the driving and physics will give sim fans and purists what they want but for most car fans seeing the cars recreated in jaw dropping detail and fun driving is what we want. PS5 needs its own Horizon and Driveclub could have been that
Sony needs to resurrect Motorstorm. I'm not into racing games, but Pacific Rift (1 and Apocalypse, too, but to a lesser extent) had me hooked for a while.
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
You praised the game while putting down other games. Classic console warrior move.

I didn't put down other games, I said of all the racing games this is the one with the most visual class. Being offended by this is text book console warrior reaction. Your laughing emoji is just further proof of it by the way, stay bothered.
 
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ButchCat

Member
I'm not a petrol head or a car enthusiast like some are so watching a replay is something I would rarely do and so to have ray-tracing limited to only replays is a missed opportunity. Being a cross-gen title I think the real-time improvements compared to GT Sport are too subtle for me to be impressed. I heard the driving physics and the damage model are much improved though.
 

Ozriel

M$FT
I didn't put down other games, I said of all the racing games this is the one with the most visual class. Being offended by this is text book console warrior reaction. Your laughing emoji is just further proof of it by the way, stay bothered.

I suspect he was reacting to the part where you said the other games looked like they were designed by teenagers.
 

Putonahappyface

Gold Member
Real races have a penalty too… your own life.
It is just that a game can’t simulate you dying or others dying because you are driving incorrectly that these soft penalty exists.

Without that driving in games should be a completely mess.
Then you must remove any references to realism in this game. I like aggressive racing.





 

Thirty7ven

Banned
I suspect he was reacting to the part where you said the other games looked like they were designed by teenagers.

It's my opinion, most racing games either look visually designed for teenagers or are simply too bland. GT has managed to develop a presentation and aesthetic that is both appealing and classic.

I bet you 100$ the guy wasn't bothered that I said that about other racing games on Playstation. You think this is about defending the crew? need for speed? etc cmon And all because of poor reading comprehension to boot.
 
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SLB1904

Banned
Not sure why people are calling out those who are criticizing the trees. Part of the charm of a racing game is its atmosphere. Otherwise, you can just have flat fields and then achieve all the RT, 4K 120fps you want. A believable world around the circuit is also important in many racing games.
nah people are getting called out for hyperbole borderline trolling.

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game still in development. and the picture everyone latches on is from a track with multiple configurations... which means they will have to fix that if you are driving the reverse configuration
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
Watched it last night in 4K/60 on my TV and it looks very nice. The smooth framerate combined with all the little nuanced car physics stood out.

More than ever a quality screen makes an absolute difference.

A lot of people watch these YT videos on some sub par lcd screen on their budget phones/monitors, so much is lost.
 
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It's my opinion, most racing games either look visually designed for teenagers or are simply too bland. GT has managed to develop a presentation and aesthetic that is both appealing and classic.

I bet you 100$ the guy wasn't bothered that I said that about other racing games on Playstation. You think this is about defending the crew? need for speed? etc cmon And all because of poor reading comprehension to boot.
Different people will have different opinions. Nothing wrong with that. If people have a problem with your opinions and preferences, then that's their problem.

GT Sport isn't a bad game. It's just a bad game for me personally due to the way the game was designed. I'm not knowledgeable enough to explain the various tricks and shortcuts developers take when making games. But when it comes to racing games? While many of them will give you the perception that you're driving around a track. In reality though, that might not actually be the case. You just won't usually notice the difference because of whatever process the developers used tricks your brain into seeing it as though you are.

No matter how much I tried to get used to it... for some odd reason my brain always perceived GT Sport as your car being a somewhat permanent image in the middle of the screen, and the road actually being the image that moves. With it running along underneath the car. The driver appearing to do little more than point the car right or left.

That's not a knock on GT Sport. It's a me problem. While all racing games use various tricks to give users the impression they're doing something they aren't, or at least in the way they perceive it. For whatever reason... When it comes to GT Sport, the trick doesn' t work for me. I've tried to just play it in the hopes that it would click at some point. Yet every time, my brain sees right through the same smoke and mirrors that fool me in other games.

I'm Just hoping that their next GT games accomplishes it's goal.
 

Three

Member
Except each time it is pretty obvious when it is gameplay and when it is replay. When they show real gameplay they did not even try to leave the cockpit view and even then there was pop ins, akwards trees and so on.
The "awkward trees" are in replay looking back at a car. What do you think changes between replay and gameplay here? There is no raytracing in replay or gameplay so I'd be interested to know what you think is changing with absolutely no knowledge about this game.
 
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Turk1993

GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
From PettyWingman / GTP

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Celebrating the 25th Anniversary of "Gran Turismo"
Over 420 car models with the highest quality ever.
Over 90 tracks with realistic weather and realistic scenery.
Besides, the long-awaited "GT Mode," which you can enjoy the car life, is back again.
Enjoy various events as buying, selling and tuning the cars and racing.

Brand Central
A shopping mall which over 60 automobile brands assemble.
You can purchase over 300 post-2011 cars here.

Used Cars Dealer
The cars which have been discontinued for a long time are lined up here.
The Japanese historic cars in '80s and '90s are also available.
The lineup would be updated every day.

Garage
Your base of the car life.
Up to 1000 cars can be stored and you can gaze at and setup your car.

Tuning Shop
Engine, tire, brake, suspension etc... a huge amount of tuning parts are available.
You can also purchase the supercharger, turbocharger, weight reduction and rigidity increase.

GT Auto
Dress up your car here.
Over 130 wheels and over 600 aero parts are lined up.
Oil change, car wash, painting and livery editing are also available.

Scapes
Over 2500 photo locations in 40 countries all over the world.
Place your car in a beautiful scene and take realistic HDR photographs.

License Center
Learn the driving technique from scratch.
You can learn from basic techniques to different drivings for each car and course.

Mission Challenge
0-400m Battle, Drifting, Max Speed Challenge, "Music Rally" which you can race to music etc...
You can experience unique events that is different from ordinary racing.

World Circuits
World circuits such as Le Mans and Nürburgring, beloved fictional citcuits such as Trail Mountain...
Over 90 layouts are in this game.
 
There is no raytracing in replay or gameplay so I'd be interested to know what you think is changing with absolutely no knowledge about this game.
But there is RT in replay no? That's the whole point. We know that RT is used in replays, photomode and - I forgot - another area, but not in gameplay.
 
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SLB1904

Banned
From PettyWingman / GTP

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Celebrating the 25th Anniversary of "Gran Turismo"
Over 420 car models with the highest quality ever.
Over 90 tracks with realistic weather and realistic scenery.
Besides, the long-awaited "GT Mode," which you can enjoy the car life, is back again.
Enjoy various events as buying, selling and tuning the cars and racing.

Brand Central
A shopping mall which over 60 automobile brands assemble.
You can purchase over 300 post-2011 cars here.

Used Cars Dealer
The cars which have been discontinued for a long time are lined up here.
The Japanese historic cars in '80s and '90s are also available.
The lineup would be updated every day.

Garage
Your base of the car life.
Up to 1000 cars can be stored and you can gaze at and setup your car.

Tuning Shop
Engine, tire, brake, suspension etc... a huge amount of tuning parts are available.
You can also purchase the supercharger, turbocharger, weight reduction and rigidity increase.

GT Auto
Dress up your car here.
Over 130 wheels and over 600 aero parts are lined up.
Oil change, car wash, painting and livery editing are also available.

Scapes
Over 2500 photo locations in 40 countries all over the world.
Place your car in a beautiful scene and take realistic HDR photographs.

License Center
Learn the driving technique from scratch.
You can learn from basic techniques to different drivings for each car and course.

Mission Challenge
0-400m Battle, Drifting, Max Speed Challenge, "Music Rally" which you can race to music etc...
You can experience unique events that is different from ordinary racing.

World Circuits
World circuits such as Le Mans and Nürburgring, beloved fictional citcuits such as Trail Mountain...
Over 90 layouts are in this game.
damn
 

NickFire

Member
From PettyWingman / GTP

Celebrating the 25th Anniversary of "Gran Turismo"
Over 420 car models with the highest quality ever.
Over 90 tracks with realistic weather and realistic scenery.
Besides, the long-awaited "GT Mode," which you can enjoy the car life, is back again.
Enjoy various events as buying, selling and tuning the cars and racing.
420 cars and 90 tracks is hundreds more cars than I expected, and dozens more tracks than I expected. I've got a feeling this game will be popular for a long time.
 

Digity

Member
420 cars and 90 tracks is hundreds more cars than I expected, and dozens more tracks than I expected. I've got a feeling this game will be popular for a long time.
90 tracks isn't 90 different tracks, that's counting different configurations and reverse layouts. It's not really all that more than GT Sport has. This is the worst part about GT7 for me, lack of new tracks.
 
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ethomaz

Banned
90 tracks isn't 90 different tracks, that's counting different configurations and reverse layouts. It's not really all that more than GT Sport has. This is the worst part about GT7 for me, lack of new tracks.
But there are at least 3 new tracks (we know about) compared with GTS.

Edit - Fixed number of GTS tracks / locations.

Total Locations: 29
Total Variations: 84
 
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NickFire

Member
90 tracks isn't 90 different tracks, that's counting different configurations and reverse layouts. It's not really all that more than GT Sport has. This is the worst part about GT7 for me, lack of new tracks.
Good to know.

Still excited for it.
 

tommib

Member
lol it really is just putting a 3d model on top of a static photograph..

hahaha - how can this even be called a feature?
Someone never used Scapes but is dying to shit on the game.

Those are fully 3D pre-rendered backgrounds with several layers that are reflected on the cars. Think the most advanced Resident Evil: RE backgrounds.

Car nuts spend hours on the mode, tweaking dozens of settings to get the perfect shot. There are thousands of real life locations you pick from, and place the car however you want using the pre-rendered 3D environment.
 
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ReBurn

Gold Member
Richard Leadbetter mentioned it in the DF Retro PS4 reveal video,don't remember the timestamp. He was specifcally mad about it making their then upcoming GT6 look even more dated if I recall correctly.
It was John Linneman who said that he heard a rumor about Yamauchi being upset about the existence of Driveclub on PS4. They flavored it with the reminder that Gran Turismo 6 released on PS3 after the PS4 launched.
 

ethomaz

Banned
It was John Linneman who said that he heard a rumor about Yamauchi being upset about the existence of Driveclub on PS4. They flavored it with the reminder that Gran Turismo 6 released on PS3 after the PS4 launched.
GT6 was indeed sent to die but that was nothing to do with DriveClub.
It was a game releasing to PS3 after PS4 launched.
 

sncvsrtoip

Member
But there are at least 3 new tracks (we know about) compared with GTS.

Edit - Fixed number of GTS tracks / locations.

Total Locations: 29
Total Variations: 84
4 new confirmed (Daytona, Deep Forest, Trial Mountain, High Speed Ring), 1 almost confirmed (teased Apricot Hill). Few other discovered in database so probably launch in patches after release.
 
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RespawnX

Member
I don‘t get it. Gran Turismo never was the prettiest and best looking game. Always had a steril art look and style. It’s a main stream driving game sitting right between arcade and simulation. It has some very pretty car models and the tracks are designed for the driving experience. Differs from Forza Motorsport in it’s presentation and does some things worse and some better. Looking at the gameplay and the replays/photomode there is a gap between visuals. But who the hell cares? These consoles have technical limitations, start to accept this fact. There are always some cuts in visuals. Fuck off some trees. It’s a driving game and not a forest simulator.
 
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sncvsrtoip

Member
Don't get me wrong i am a PS and GT fan, but Forza seemed to dominate in every aspect.
opposite, gt sport dominate in such basics features as wheel support and multiplayer, also graphics is better than fm7 (df comparison video), new fm has to improve in many aspects tough its nextgen only so visualy could be briliant
 
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opposite, gt sport dominate in such basics features as wheel support and multiplayer, also graphics is better than fh7 (df comparison video), new fh has to improve in many aspects tough its nextgen only so visualy could be briliant
You mean FM not FH. And the next Forza Motorsport is next gen only.
 
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