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Ori Dev Criticizes Microsoft For Creating “Artificial Barriers”

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Hmm, you do know Microsoft has made more gaming revenue than Nintendo for the last 2/3 q's?
I didnt. But I do know they made $15 billion in the last fiscal year, only $2 billion less than Nintendo which sold 28 million switches the same year. MS is clearly on the right track which is why I dont understand this talk of bringing games to everyone as if they are hurting for more revenue.
 
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HoodWinked

Member
this is so dumb. he himself is playing the "game".

he's trying to start shit despite fully knowing what he signed up for when he signed the contract for it's exclusivity. he's hoping it gets enough negative PR that Microsoft releases the rights to publish on PlayStation for his own financial benefit.

Street fighter V is capcoms single most successful (sales wise) entry for the franchise.
that's not correct, SF4 had multiple repackages as Super SF4, Super SF4 Arcade, Ultra SF4 which in total sold over 9 million. So almost double SFV sales, the benefit for the exclusivity was mostly funding as the game had been canceled internally and likely would not have came out had it not been for Sony (although Nintendo or Microsoft just as easily could have saved the game but at the time MS was developing Killer Instinct and Nintendo likely focused on Smash)
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
It's the first fucking line


I swear we need to require reading of the OP before the reply button becomes available. There should be a quiz captcha. Instead of finding the dog in a picture, you have to read and write the first line.

Would save people a lot of embarrassment.

Yeah, I read it. It's absurd and shows a lack of understanding of the industry. MS is BY FAR doing the most to let more people play their games.

MS rolled out the red carpet for these guys, funded and advertised the hell out of the 1st game out of a brand new studio. His position seems to be that if MS released Halo/Forza on PS then Sony and Nintendo would follow their lead and release everything everywhere. Meanwhile, Sony is backing up a brinks truck to Square Enix every 6 months to cock block everyone else from playing their games. Nintendo just did the same with Capcom/ MonHun. His position is divorced from reality. It just seems a little bizarre to me, but hey, what do I know? Almost seems like there was some behind the scenes drama that we are unaware of.
 

LMJ

Member
It's a freaking criticism oh, are we no longer entitled to those even if we work for the company in question?

I mean half of the people on here who claim to be a die-hard Xbox fans seem to be ready to hang this guy because he's calling out doublespeak...?!?

Good, more people should regardless of who they work for and as has been pointed out he did the same for Sony and Nintendo, but they're not preaching trying to reach everyone like Microsoft is.
everyone GIF

Everyone is deserving of criticism
I love Ori too and it makes me sad to learn one of the main people behind such beloved games is a narcissistic, ungrateful and entitled asshole.
Such an outrageous take, how do you get narcissistic, ungrateful and entitled from a criticism, and a valid criticism at that aimed at his former employers?

Samuel L Jackson Reaction GIF by Coming to America

Again Spencer has no problem trying to say how Microsoft is trying to include everyone while still creating a Walled Garden, more power to him that's a business, but it is definitely talking out both sides of the mouth.
Trust me. They can see lol. Everyone knows what he meant except maybe that Ori guy who actually seems genuinely clueless.
Hur-durr right?, it's them stupid Sonys people oh, and them Tendo boys too LOL
dumb patrick star GIF by SpongeBob SquarePants


Yeah I wouldn't call him clueless, in fact he seems to be one of the few people who's willing to say something like this regardless of the fact he's worked for the company in question.

We shouldn't blindly worship any company regardless if we work for them or not constructive criticism is an important factor people!

I know I know blind idealism and worship of Corporations is all the craze now today, but I prefer it when people actually held these companies to some kind of standard...
 
He’s only spiel has and always been games on xbox capable devices. It’s mind blowing people can’t see what that means, want to play on PC? Sure no worries. Phone? Yep. All these platforms allow the xbox ecosystem. Not once have he ever entertained putting Microsoft exclusives on PlayStation.

There's a logical inconsistency with saying it's OK to be open on PC, but not OK to be open on PS or Nintendo. That should be clearly obvious

If he wants to break down barriers and open gaming, then why is there a wall between certain platforms and not others?

Sony isn't hiding behind some phony philosophical argument when they decided to go PC - it's all about profit to them.
 

kyoji

Member
MS: we want gamer's to be able to play our games any place anywhere on any platform

MS also: But wait Nintendo and Sony must first accept game pass into there own (closed) platforms

If you have been following gaming news the last few months as well as document leaks you understand whats going on, and why and how Phil is using the media in an 'attempt' to apply pressure to Sony/Nintendo into allowing gamepass onto there ecosystems by making these subtle statements, its a ruse (intentional or unintentional) to try and public shame your competitor for being anti consumer for not sharing content or by painting yourself in a better light but not being entirely truthful about the situation.

A few things to add, Why would Nintendo or Sony allow another platforms sub service into there own? Whats to stop the then other 3rd partys for trying to bargain there own future sub services? other than losing money up front if they they decline and they refuse to publish games on said platform.

If Phil Spencer really is about the games being available like he says he is, game pass wouldn't be used as the leveraging piece. You would simply just become a 3rd party ala EA, Activision, Epic etc.

I understand why Phil is using game pass as the bargaining chip DO YOU? Some of you want to paint the moon studios guy as disgruntled when hes only really calling Spencer out on his words not equaling actions, so it comes across as BS.
 

assurdum

Banned
I really confuse. So this guy says to be disappointed by MS who not let him release his game in every platform because their policies are no more tied to the concept of platform exclusivity but basically hearing many people here he should just to shut up and just accept whatever MS order to him because he funded his game.
Personally his opinion stated how contradictory his Phil Spencer rhetoric but didn't said nothing of new or particularly outraging.
 
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Kacho

Member
Almost seems like there was some behind the scenes drama that we are unaware of.
I’m pretty sure he’s just butthurt because he had a slight hit with Ori but didn’t have control over the IP. He’s brought it up before. That’s why he jumped at the chance to cry about it once again.

Hope his upcoming Diablo clone is good. It’s on my radar.
 

kyoji

Member
this is so dumb. he himself is playing the "game".

he's trying to start shit despite fully knowing what he signed up for when he signed the contract for it's exclusivity. he's hoping it gets enough negative PR that Microsoft releases the rights to publish on PlayStation for his own financial benefit.


that's not correct, SF4 had multiple repackages as Super SF4, Super SF4 Arcade, Ultra SF4 which in total sold over 9 million. So almost double SFV sales, the benefit for the exclusivity was mostly funding as the game had been canceled internally and likely would not have came out had it not been for Sony (although Nintendo or Microsoft just as easily could have saved the game but at the time MS was developing Killer Instinct and Nintendo likely focused on Smash)
I posted a chart in the SF V thread about a week ago, youre wrong. as you just said SFIV is repacked over various re-installments of the game, SSFIV etc etc. How many people u think rebought the game with each new release and it counted as a sale? Keep in mind SFIV was on more platforms, sf v is only on ps/pc (so you do the math)

You only need to buy the base game for SF V and then buy the expansions, they arent recounted as sales. So essentially you have unique buyers and not people rebuying the same dam game just for updates and new modes/characters/game mechanics, its all packed into one package. Now lets see if u can figure out what i just said.

Capcom Fighting Game Sales - As of September 30, 2021​

Street Fighter 2 (SNES) - 6.3 million
Street Fighter 5 - 6.0 million
Street Fighter 2 Turbo - 4.1 million
Street Fighter 4 - 3.4 million
Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds - 2.2 million
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection - 2.0 million
Super Street Fighter 2 - 2.0 million
Super Street Fighter 4 - 1.9 million
Street Fighter X Tekken - 1.9 million
Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite - 1.7 million
Street Fighter 2 Special Champion Edition - 1.65 million
Ultra Street Fighter 4 - 1.5 million
Marvel vs. Capcom 2: New Age Of Heroes - 1.4 million
Street Fighter 4 3D Edition - 1.3 million
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 - 1.2 million
Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition - 1.1 million
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (PS4, Xbox One, PC) - 1.2 million
Street Fighter Alpha 3 - 1.0 million
 
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Fake

Member
Love how he calls out MS, the company who believed in his studio enough to fund their first game and then the sequel. He wants MS to port Halo to PlayStation and then hope Sony returns the favor?

LMAO. Why not call on Nintendo, the market leader, to port Mario to Xbox. Or Sony to port TLOU2 to Xbox.

What a weird self own.

He post over Twitter and resetera. Kinda expected.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yeah, I read it. It's absurd and shows a lack of understanding of the industry. MS is BY FAR doing the most to let more people play their games.

MS rolled out the red carpet for these guys, funded and advertised the hell out of the 1st game out of a brand new studio. His position seems to be that if MS released Halo/Forza on PS then Sony and Nintendo would follow their lead and release everything everywhere.
He is talking about MS's vision of eliminating barriers. He is saying MS should follow their own rhetoric and act on it instead of just talking about it.

He also says that MS would NOT be ok with spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a game then port it on the PS5. He specifically states that Sony and Nintendo are NOT playing along. He says they believe in walled gardens. I am gonna copy his post below because it's literally all there in the first few paragraphs. What exactly is he saying that is absurd and displays a lack of understanding of the industry?

If anything, he agrees with Microsoft's position on eliminating barriers and says that if MS is successful by allowing games on other platforms and INCREASES their revenue then others would follow. How is that absurd? It's common sense. Sony is literally copying MS right now by putting their first party games on PC for more revenue. The Minecraft example is fine too. revenue has only increased. I disagree with him on a one console future but I just dont see what hes saying that is generating this kind of response from some people. He is simply taking the same stance Phil is preaching. He just wants Phil to follow through on it.

Ori-criticize-microsoft.jpg.webp


I am kinda baffled by the hate this guy is getting. He is AGREEING with Phil. if You disagree with him then you are disagreeing with Phil. If you are upset that he took his studio to a third party publisher so he can control his IP then you should be mad at Bungie for leaving MS because MS were not allowing Bungie to remain independent.

I dont know it seems to me that there is some history with this guy and people are jumping down his throat without actually reading and understanding what he's saying because he sounds like an MS exec to me.
 
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Punished Miku

Gold Member
He is talking about MS's vision of eliminating barriers. He is saying MS should follow their own rhetoric and act on it instead of just talking about it.

He also says that MS would NOT be ok with spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a game then port it on the PS5. He specifically states that Sony and Nintendo are NOT playing along. He says they believe in walled gardens. I am gonna copy his post below because it's literally all there in the first few paragraphs. What exactly is he saying that is absurd and displays a lack of understanding of the industry?

If anything, he agrees with Microsoft's position on eliminating barriers and says that if MS is successful by allowing games on other platforms and INCREASES their revenue then others would follow. How is that absurd? It's common sense. The Minecraft example is fine too. revenue has only increased. I disagree with him on a one console future but I just dont see what hes saying that is generating this kind of response from some people. He is simply taking the same stance Phil is preaching. He just wants Phil to follow through on it.

Ori-criticize-microsoft.jpg.webp


I am kinda baffled by the hate this guy is getting. He is AGREEING with Phil. if You disagree with him then you are disagreeing with Phil. If you are upset that he took his studio to a third party publisher so he can control his IP then you should be mad at Bungie for leaving MS because MS were not allowing Bungie to remain independent.

I dont know it seems to me that there is some history with this guy and people are jumping down his throat without actually reading and understanding what he's saying because he sounds like an MS exec to me.
This guy just wants money. Period.
 

assurdum

Banned
He is talking about MS's vision of eliminating barriers. He is saying MS should follow their own rhetoric and act on it instead of just talking about it.

He also says that MS would NOT be ok with spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a game then port it on the PS5. He specifically states that Sony and Nintendo are NOT playing along. He says they believe in walled gardens. I am gonna copy his post below because it's literally all there in the first few paragraphs. What exactly is he saying that is absurd and displays a lack of understanding of the industry?

If anything, he agrees with Microsoft's position on eliminating barriers and says that if MS is successful by allowing games on other platforms and INCREASES their revenue then others would follow. How is that absurd? It's common sense. The Minecraft example is fine too. revenue has only increased. I disagree with him on a one console future but I just dont see what hes saying that is generating this kind of response from some people. He is simply taking the same stance Phil is preaching. He just wants Phil to follow through on it.

Ori-criticize-microsoft.jpg.webp


I am kinda baffled by the hate this guy is getting. He is AGREEING with Phil. if You disagree with him then you are disagreeing with Phil. If you are upset that he took his studio to a third party publisher so he can control his IP then you should be mad at Bungie for leaving MS because MS were not allowing Bungie to remain independent.

I dont know it seems to me that there is some history with this guy and people are jumping down his throat without actually reading and understanding what he's saying because he sounds like an MS exec to me.
But how dare. Basically the reply who disagree with him. Unbelievable.
 
I really confuse. So this guy says to be disappointed by MS who not let him release his game in every platform because their policies are no more tied to the concept of platform exclusivity but basically hearing many people here he should just to shut up and just accept whatever MS order to him because he funded his game.
The power of the money never stop to astonish me
If you sign a business contract where the agreement lies on MS publishing your games in exchange you will only release your games on MS-approved platforms then yes, he absolutely has no say in where his game is distributed because they already made a deal. it's called business. Now, I'm not saying he can't criticize MS but you don't see Sony developers crying foul play that their games are exclusive to the PS platform.

If this is such a big issue for him then he should have sought out publishing from Ubisoft, Activision, EA and etc. Also, just because some likes thier games does not mean they can't receive criticism for thier hot takes.
 
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assurdum

Banned
If you sign a business contract where the agreement lies on MS publishing your games in exchange you will only release your games on MS-approved platforms then yes, he absolutely has no say in where his game is distributed because they already made a deal. it's called business. Now, I'm not saying he can't criticize MS but you don't see Sony developers crying foul play that their games are exclusive to the PS platform.

If this is such a big issue for him then he' should have sought out publishing from Ubisoft, Activision, EA and etc. Also, just because some likes thier games does not mean they can't receive criticism for thier hot takes.
Maybe you forget Sony is not against exclusivity deal where Phil repeatedly taunt it. I mean Spencer contradict himself and this guy just pointed out the obvious. It's not like because MS give you the money you are not legitimate to criticize them. Some of you are unbelievable.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
This guy just wants money. Period.
So your issue with him is that he didnt give MS his next exclusive? How is that different from what Bungie did? or are you mad that Bungie wanted to control their own IP and reap the profits from their vision instead of having MS pocket all of it?

What about Respawn after they left Activision? Clearly it was about money. Millions in bonuses that Activision held back IIRC. Were you on Activision's side?

What about Kojima and Konami? They locked him up on a different floor so he couldnt poach talent and start his own company. Clearly he wanted money, right? What a monster.

I really dont understand why we are calling devs greedy bastards for wanting to own their own IP. I dont remember people stanning Ubisoft after they acquired Petriece's Assassin's Creed inspired IP out of spite. No one said he just wants money.

Whats going on here?
 
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DaGwaphics

Member
He is talking about MS's vision of eliminating barriers. He is saying MS should follow their own rhetoric and act on it instead of just talking about it.

He also says that MS would NOT be ok with spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a game then port it on the PS5. He specifically states that Sony and Nintendo are NOT playing along. He says they believe in walled gardens. I am gonna copy his post below because it's literally all there in the first few paragraphs. What exactly is he saying that is absurd and displays a lack of understanding of the industry?

If anything, he agrees with Microsoft's position on eliminating barriers and says that if MS is successful by allowing games on other platforms and INCREASES their revenue then others would follow. How is that absurd? It's common sense. Sony is literally copying MS right now by putting their first party games on PC for more revenue. The Minecraft example is fine too. revenue has only increased. I disagree with him on a one console future but I just dont see what hes saying that is generating this kind of response from some people. He is simply taking the same stance Phil is preaching. He just wants Phil to follow through on it.

Ori-criticize-microsoft.jpg.webp


I am kinda baffled by the hate this guy is getting. He is AGREEING with Phil. if You disagree with him then you are disagreeing with Phil. If you are upset that he took his studio to a third party publisher so he can control his IP then you should be mad at Bungie for leaving MS because MS were not allowing Bungie to remain independent.

I dont know it seems to me that there is some history with this guy and people are jumping down his throat without actually reading and understanding what he's saying because he sounds like an MS exec to me.
I don't take Spencer's words the same way as this dev. That's the issue with this logic. It's obvious that all MS has ever talked about is extending to platforms that support their full ecosystem.
 

lh032

I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
I always find it funny that people actually thinks Microsoft is the good guy.

Microsoft, just like other corporation such as Sony or Nintendo, they only care about themselves in the end.

Its rather cringe when Phil criticize Sony for exclusivity, hilarious.
 
I always find it funny that people actually thinks Microsoft is the good guy.

Microsoft, just like other corporation such as Sony or Nintendo, they only care about themselves in the end.

Its rather cringe when Phil criticize Sony for exclusivity, hilarious.
Or “late” PC ports….”like we’re the only company that releases games day and date on pc”. A platform they completely own btw

I can’t help but see Phil Spencer as the real life embodiment of Sal Goodman
 
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Punished Miku

Gold Member
So your issue with him is that he didnt give MS his next exclusive? How is that different from what Bungie did? or are you mad that Bungie wanted to control their own IP and reap the profits from their vision instead of having MS pocket all of it?

What about Respawn after they left Activision? Clearly it was about money. Millions in bonuses that Activision held back IIRC. Were you on Activision's side?

What about Kojima and Konami? They locked him up on a different floor so he couldnt poach talent and start his own company. Clearly he wanted money, right? What a monster.

I really dont understand why we are calling devs greedy bastards for wanting to own their own IP. I dont remember people stanning from Ubisoft after they acquired Petriece's Assassin's Creed inspired IP out of spite. No one said he just wants money.

Whats going on here?
You made up at least 4 major things in that post that I never said lol. Never called them greedy bastards. Never cared what system he wants to be on. I have all 3. My issue is that his argument is retarded.

If he wants to own his own IP then go indie. That is not what he did.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I don't take Spencer's words the same way as this dev. That's the issue with this logic. It's obvious that all MS has ever talked about is extending to platforms that support their full ecosystem.
I brought up crossplay before. What was MS's logic for that? Clearly MS wanted to break down those console barriers. He couldve simply enabled PC + XBL crossplay and ended it at that, no? He wanted the PS userbase.

When I hear Phil talk about that stuff, and I see Minecraft on Switch and PSN, I take his words to mean hes talking about games on all platforms. or rather services. I think he wants Gamepass on PSN and Switch more than games.

Regardless, he is interpreting Phil's comments one way, you are interpreting it differently. Doesnt mean he deserves the vitriol hes getting in this thread.
 

assurdum

Banned
What are you talking about? 3rd party buyouts?
I don't understand if you are serious or less. I'm talking about the Spencer rhetoric about no more platform barriers but meanwhile uses the pokerface when playstation brand is involved.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
You made up at least 4 major things in that post that I never said lol. Never called them greedy bastards. Never cared what system he wants to be on. I have all 3. My issue is that his argument is retarded.
I thought your issue was that he just wants money, period. You're implying he's greedy.
 

Kacho

Member
I don't take Spencer's words the same way as this dev. That's the issue with this logic. It's obvious that all MS has ever talked about is extending to platforms that support their full ecosystem.
Yeah it’s obvious to anyone without an axe to grind. Phil would put Xbox games on PlayStation if Sony allowed Game Pass on their platform, but they don’t so it’s not happening. It’s not that complicated, yet we got people in here typing novels.
 
I am kinda baffled by the hate this guy is getting. He is AGREEING with Phil. if You disagree with him then you are disagreeing with Phil. If you are upset that he took his studio to a third party publisher so he can control his IP then you should be mad at Bungie for leaving MS because MS were not allowing Bungie to remain independent.

I dont know it seems to me that there is some history with this guy and people are jumping down his throat without actually reading and understanding what he's saying because he sounds like an MS exec to me.

Why are you baffled by the hate he is getting? Its pretty clear. He clearly called out MS "Microsoft should 'have the guts' to commit to their vision. " But MS already provides access to their games via Xbox, PC, Mobile and xCloud. More than any other console maker. If he wanted to call someone out, he should have called out Sony and Nintendo for not allowing GamePass/xCloud on their system & for not having their games reaching the same amount of devices as MS.

And its pretty scummy to call out the company that helped them make and market their game and is doing a better job at making their games accessible to a much wider audience.

Again, this developer is a buffoon any way we look at it.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
This

Microsoft has acquired a lot of developers that historically released games on multiple platforms. Those are probably not going to change (e.g. Fallout, DOOM, Minecraft)

On the other hand, franchises that were always heaviliy associated with Xbox will stay on Xbox/PC, such as Halo, Age of Empires, Fable and many others.
You think future Fallout, Doom, Wolfenstein, Elder Scrolls, etc, are going PS and the like?
 

Concern

Member
I really thought gaf had more critical thinkers than this, it seems i was mistaking


Didn't know console warring required "critical thinking" lol I've heard it all.

Microsoft funds this retards project and Phils the bad guy because the retard signed a contract where he couldn't release said project on the competitor's platform.

Yea real critical thinking 🤣
 
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I don't understand if you are serious or less.
I can’t tell if you are serious here. You just edited your post implying that I said he can’t criticize MS when I literally said he had the freedom to do so. Just as I said in my post earlier. The barriers to entry for Xbox games are easier than ever thanks to GamePass, X-cloud, and Xbox games on PC. If you think MS is going to release their games on PS and Nintendo platforms then I don't know what to tell you. Phil has made Xbox games more accessible to more gamers than MS has ever done in its history and that's just a fact dude.
 

DaGwaphics

Member
I brought up crossplay before. What was MS's logic for that? Clearly MS wanted to break down those console barriers. He couldve simply enabled PC + XBL crossplay and ended it at that, no? He wanted the PS userbase.

When I hear Phil talk about that stuff, and I see Minecraft on Switch and PSN, I take his words to mean hes talking about games on all platforms. or rather services. I think he wants Gamepass on PSN and Switch more than games.

Dude certainly has the freedom to say his piece. But, we are certainly free to criticize as well.
 
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assurdum

Banned
I don't take Spencer's words the same way as this dev. That's the issue with this logic. It's obvious that all MS has ever talked about is extending to platforms that support their full ecosystem.
It's obvious also he contradict himself and someone just pointed it out.
 

assurdum

Banned
I can’t tell if you are serious here. You just edited your post implying that I said he can’t criticize MS when I literally said he had the freedom to do so. Just as I said in my post earlier. The barriers to entry for Xbox games are easier than ever thanks to GamePass, X-cloud, and Xbox games on PC. If you think MS is going to release their games on PS and Nintendo platforms then I don't know what to tell you. Phil has made Xbox games more accessible to more gamers than MS has ever done in its history and that's just a fact dude.
I don't think anything. I just talk about of Spencer contradiction and it's hilarious see so many people try to argue he is coherent with himself when it's not at all and it's more about to just says what people want to hear by him.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Why are you baffled by the hate he is getting? Its pretty clear. He clearly called out MS "Microsoft should 'have the guts' to commit to their vision. " But MS already provides access to their games via Xbox, PC, Mobile and xCloud. More than any other console maker. If he wanted to call someone out, he should have called out Sony and Nintendo for not allowing GamePass/xCloud on their system & for not having their games reaching the same amount of devices as MS.

And its pretty scummy to call out the company that helped them make and market their game and is doing a better job at making their games accessible to a much wider audience.

Again, this developer is a buffoon any way we look at it.
Maybe its because i am not a MS fan, but I really dont see whats so blasphemous about that quote. I am/was a Sony fan and if Kojima came out tomorrow and called out Jim Ryan for saying he should have the guts to stick to his I BELIEVE IN GENERATIONS vision then I will stand up and applaud instead of calling him a buffoon.

I also dont like that just because MS funded some games of his that he should stfu and never talk about them again. Why not? Why are we censoring these developers? I would love to hear Amy Henning, Kojima, Vince Zempala criticize their former publishers. Amy had her A team taken away from her and given to Neil and Bruce. Then when she finally got them back, Neil and Bruce started tinkering with her vision. Then they got her fired. Would you give her shit for speaking out against Sony? And I definitely wouldnt chastise them just because Activision and Konami paid their salaries for a few years.

Regardless, he is AGREEING with their vision. He WANTS a future where everyone gets to play all games on all systems. He is not calling out Sony and Nintendo because Sony and Nintendo dont go around saying shit like we want to remove artificial barriers.
 
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plip.plop

Member
Didn't MS play with the idea to put Gamepass on other systems which would have effectively made Moon Studios game multiplat?
 

kyoji

Member
Didn't know console warring required "critical thinking" lol I've heard it all.

Microsoft funds this retards project and Phils the bad guy because the retard signed a contract where I couldn't release said project on the competitor's platform.

Yea real critical thinking 🤣
Who is console warring here bruh? please add something to the conversation and not the same antics, if we can scrutinize other execs. phil spencer should be no exception when he says dumb shit or is being disingenuous.

Some of you guys need to grow out of little dog syndrome. You have yet to talk about what hes really talking about.
 

Concern

Member
Who is console warring here bruh? please add something to the conversation and not the same antics, if we can scrutinize other execs. phil spencer should be no exception when he says dumb shit or is being disingenuous.

Some of you guys need to grow out of little dog syndrome. You have yet to talk about what hes really talking about.


You are "bruh". Posted this like its some big "i gotcha" on Phil. But its a rant by an idiot who's upset because signed a deal and didn't want to keep his end of it.

Already been pointed out. But not the echochamber you wanted lol.
 

assurdum

Banned
Who is console warring here bruh? please add something to the conversation and not the same antics, if we can scrutinize other execs. phil spencer should be no exception when he says dumb shit or is being disingenuous.

Some of you guys need to grow out of little dog syndrome. You have yet to talk about what hes really talking about.
You talk with a person who probably has even his underpants labelled Xbox.
 
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