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[Sony]

My last gen go-to console was primarily the Xbox One X, with some occasional gaming on PS4 Pro on the side.
I got myself a PS5 and a Series X a couple of months ago. I have to say, if you don't have a 120Hz monitor, my experience so far on these consoles has been pretty... meh. They feel more like One X2 and PS4 ProPro. Especially One X has spoiled with with great IQ for cross gen games.
I hope these consoles start to put out games that showcase why you need a Series X or a PS5.
What can I play on these things that will wow me? I have Forza Horizon 5 in my living room on my Series X and in my bedroom on my One X. Sure I see some difference but it's not a generational leap.

 

[bentanchorbolt]

Bad take.

The two things that sucked about last gen were the anemic CPU cores and the slow hard drives, which MS and Sony had both fixed and then some.

Plus you are talking about cross gen games, like this was never a problem in the past. 2-3 years in is when both systems will hit their strides with the kind of visuals you expect, like happened with every gen before it.

 

[CrimsonSquall]

Ratchet and Returnal and Demon’s Souls. Returnal is the true GOTY #ButThatsNoneofMyBusiness

 

[Lokaum D+]

 

[Balducci30]

Ratchet and clank is a generational leap

 

[Sony]

Bad take.

The two things that sucked about last gen were the anemic CPU cores and the slow hard drives, which MS and Sony had both fixed and then some.

Plus you are talking about cross gen games, like this was never a problem in the past. 2-3 years in is when both systems will hit their strides with the kind of visuals you expect, like happened with every gen before it.

So you're basically agreeing with me?

 

[DarkMage619]

Bad take.

The two things that sucked about last gen were the anemic CPU cores and the slow hard drives, which MS and Sony had both fixed and then some.

Plus you are talking about cross gen games, like this was never a problem in the past. 2-3 years in is when both systems will hit their strides with the kind of visuals you expect, like happened with every gen before it.

Also ignores things like Quick Resume and load times in general. There was always going to be diminishing returns with regards to graphics but it great see the significant boosts in quality of life features.

 

[just_like_that]

imo its worth it. i dont miss jet engine noises from the ps4 and overall no load times and a quick snappy UI is pretty good. of course the games is what we're all waiting for lol

 

[ultrazilla]

My last gen go-to console was primarily the Xbox One X, with some occasional gaming on PS4 Pro on the side.
I got myself a PS5 and a Series X a couple of months ago. I have to say, if you don't have a 120Hz monitor, my experience so far on these consoles has been pretty... meh. They feel more like One X2 and PS4 ProPro. Especially One X has spoiled with with great IQ for cross gen games.
I hope these consoles start to put out games that showcase why you need a Series X or a PS5.
What can I play on these things that will wow me? I have Forza Horizon 5 in my living room on my Series X and in my bedroom on my One X. Sure I see some difference but it's not a generational leap.

 

[dem]

The SSD alone is worth the upgrade...

I don't know how anyone is still playing on that spinning disk trash

 

[Little Mac]

 

[Flabagast]

Agree with OP. even on cross gen games the difference between PS4 & 3 was much more stark.

here what do we have ? A little more grass, a little better AO, yippeee...

 

[amigastar]

The new name Series X is so unintuitive, I'm still getting confused over Xbox new name sometimes.

 

[Con-Z-epT]

Ratchet and Returnal and Demon’s Souls.

Together with the incredible load times and the integration of the DualSense these do feel like a new generation.

 

[onQ123]

The Touryst is 4X the resolution on PS5 over PS4 Pro & Xbox One X

 

[StateofMajora]

I disagree. I was playing rivet and clank last night and it definitely is a good jump over the ps4 remake. At twice the fps!

 

[bender]

Agree with OP. even on cross gen games the difference between PS4 & 3 was much more stark.

here what do we have ? A little more grass, a little better AO, yippeee...

Mostly agree. The best thing about this generation is the load times which I'm already spoiled by.

 

[dcmk7]

My last gen go-to console was primarily the Xbox One X, with some occasional gaming on PS4 Pro on the side.
I got myself a PS5 and a Series X a couple of months ago. I have to say, if you don't have a 120Hz monitor, my experience so far on these consoles has been pretty... meh. They feel more like One X2 and PS4 ProPro. Especially One X has spoiled with with great IQ for cross gen games.
I hope these consoles start to put out games that showcase why you need a Series X or a PS5.
What can I play on these things that will wow me? I have Forza Horizon 5 in my living room on my Series X and in my bedroom on my One X. Sure I see some difference but it's not a generational leap.

Disappointed in XSX and PS5? Damn..Let's hope no one tells you about the other next gen console..

 

[Teh Chosen Juan]

GONNNNA have to go with OP on this one too. even if he is gay (because aren't all OPs gay?). got both systems myself. we're over a year in. we have last gen games running at 60fps. 1440p. so what, the "current gen" games are going to WOW us in 2 years with graphical upgrades, and we'll go back to 30fps? guess i expected more. basically 2080 supers in a closed system. i remember when i had my 1080ti and was like, THIS IS THE POWER! imagine this power in a closed console based system! well, here we are and meh. sure Ractchet looks good. but GENERATIONAL? like, i'd even settle for the graphics of tech demos of 2011/2012 running on these systems. but still no. we get this weird mesh, ghosty, faded texture looking stuff that's aliased and pixelated on the edges. still holding out hope, but meh.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Graphically yes but SSD is a worthy update.

 

[ByWatterson]

Yeah, I'm just fine playing Ratchet and Clank at 60fps with raytracing on PS4 Pro.

 

[R6Rider]

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Bad take.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

You couldn't pay to me to play on the old slow ass HDD consoles. The leap is real.

 

[DForce]

60fps patches make it much better than the Pro and One X upgrades we got last gen.

 

[Saucy Papi]

My last gen go-to console was primarily the Xbox One X, with some occasional gaming on PS4 Pro on the side.
I got myself a PS5 and a Series X a couple of months ago. I have to say, if you don't have a 120Hz monitor, my experience so far on these consoles has been pretty... meh. They feel more like One X2 and PS4 ProPro. Especially One X has spoiled with with great IQ for cross gen games.
I hope these consoles start to put out games that showcase why you need a Series X or a PS5.
What can I play on these things that will wow me? I have Forza Horizon 5 in my living room on my Series X and in my bedroom on my One X. Sure I see some difference but it's not a generational leap.

This is usually the case with new consoles until the games fully transition. Unfortunately, because of the chip shortage, you're seeing a much heavier dependence on last gen than usual. I recommend playing Ratchet and Clank: A Rift Apart if you want to be wowed. It's currently on sale on PSN.

 

[rodrigolfp]

The Touryst is 4X the resolution on PS5 over PS4 Pro & Xbox One X

Returnal has 1/4 of the resolution of RDR2 on One X. When was there a gen where games lost so many pixels vs the past gen???

 

[Ulysses 31]

You couldn't pay to me to play on the old slow ass HDD consoles. The leap is real.

Too be fair, it's possible to replace the HD with an SDD with the PS4(Pro) and One X.

 

[Saucy Papi]

I disagree. I was playing rivet and clank last night and it definitely is a good jump over the ps4 remake. At twice the fps!

And with ray tracing to boot!

 

[IntentionalPun]

I haven't used my XSX much, but.. loved PS5 since day 1. So fast at everything..

I am an impatient man.

 

[M1chl]

Show mw how you play Flight Sim on Xbone

 

[Magic Carpet]

Still better than the 'Jaguar' years. The 'PS Snore' and the 'XBone head' consoles really dragged the gaming world down.

 

[-tetsuo-]

The hard drives are enough alone

 

[kyliethicc]

Biggest difference is 60 FPS in pretty much every game.

And loading. And the DualSense.

 

[Nikana]

That sucks OP.

 

[Freeman76]

Shoulda gone to specsavers

 

[onQ123]

Returnal has 1/4 of the resolution of RDR2 on One X. When was there a gen where games lose so many pixels vs the past gen???

Actually Returnal is 0 pixels on One X so PS5 is infinity better at playing Returnal than One X

 

[Max_Po]

W R O N G ...

 

[Kacho]

We will start seeing true next gen games towards the end of 2022. Two things I'm anticipating when that happens:

1. Console users meltdown when games go back to being 30fps
2. PC users meltdown when 4 core CPUs are no longer viable

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Too be fair, it's possible to replace the HD with an SDD with the PS4(Pro) and One X.

True, but it sadly doesn't help that much.

 

[StateofMajora]

And with ray tracing to boot!

For sure, though it is a bit disappointing to see some screen space reflections here and there even in RT mode. The day screen space effects die a death will be a happy occasion.

Game is a treat on a good hdr display.

 

[Atanascovich]

OS ps3>>ps4>>>>>ps2>>>>ps5

 

[StateofMajora]

Returnal has 1/4 of the resolution of RDR2 on One X. When was there a gen where games lose so many pixels vs the past gen???

So Crysis warhead at 1080p is less impressive than 007 nightfire at 4k?

You sound like a man that has not played returnal.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Disagree, SSD and huge CPU upgrades have made such a difference to cross gen games. Also, we’ve just passed the first year and we’re still in the middle of a pandemic. It’s going to be a while before it really hits it stride.

 

[ultrazilla]

Actually Returnal is 0 pixels on One X so PS5 is infinity better at playing Returnal than One X

 

[Azurro]

I agree, XSX and PS5 are so far very modest upgrades if we compare the jumps previous generations had over their predecessors. PS4 had incredible looking games from the get go, while this gen is some extra trees and more resolution.

Of course there are diminishing returns and fab nodes just aren't that easy or cheap anymore, but still, it's the most underwhelming new generation of the modern age.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Considering the number of games released that are cross-gen, aren't you making a bit of a premature judgement, OP?

 

[TheGodfather07]

i went from og PS4 and XB1 straight to PS5. so the jump to much higher resolutions along with 60fps and faster loading has been a big leap for me and this is just the beginning.

 

[RavageX]

My only thing is im hoping Psvr2 will be worth it for me. Outside of that, none of these games are mind blowing or anything, and i dont expect them to be. Very detailed, yes i do expect that and at this point there is no excuse. Detailed open worlds from the sky to the sea, inhabited buildings and living npcs with well populated cities should be the normal thing now.

 

[Bboy AJ]

Garbage just like last gen. This time, though, I’m not going to be a sucker. I’ll wait for the Pro or revision versions.

Happily playing on my PC in the meantime. If you don’t have a PC, might as well jump into a new console gen asap.