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1 year with the new consoles... anybody going back to PC as main?
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ResilientBanana
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Yes, I will by buying an Xbox Series X and a PS5 once they are a bit smaller and have a plethora of games.
Hinedorf
Banned
Since Covid the console industry has handed over gaming to PC users. If you're still only tethered to a console then this generation has treated you poorly and it's your own fault for not moving to PC, Sony moving their games to PC should tell you all you need to know, wouldn't happen if they could make every penny on their consoles, they recognize their inability to churn out hardware is becoming a legit problem.
Sony's problem is PC's gain. If you're only on a console, I'm not saying you're stupid, you are.
Sony's problem is PC's gain. If you're only on a console, I'm not saying you're stupid, you are.
ProgenitorCastle
Banned
Seriously. Id buy another batch of Series X controllers with a gyro update implemented
FunkMiller
Gold Member
At some point I'll be getting back to Australia in the next couple of months, so I'll be PC only once I do that, as I'm not lugging that fucking Playstation 5 across the bloody planet.
My ROG Zephyrus is awesome. Been playing Forza 5 today, and the graphical fidelity is amazing. See no reason to invest in a Series X at any point, and the Playstation exclusives are a collection of cross-gen disappointments at the moment.
My ROG Zephyrus is awesome. Been playing Forza 5 today, and the graphical fidelity is amazing. See no reason to invest in a Series X at any point, and the Playstation exclusives are a collection of cross-gen disappointments at the moment.
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Hezekiah
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What about if you have an old card, and the game you want to play is particularly demanding.
By all accounts the PS5 version of Battlefield beta runs the best. Same goes for Deathloop. Not ideal playing an FPS on a console of you're used to doing so on PC, but still.
GametimeUK
Member
I'll forever be a PC guy now, but consoles at their price point are just too appealing if we are talking pure power / performance.
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
Member
PS5 + iPhone 12 + iPad Air 2020 + MacBook Pro + PS Classic hacked + PS Vita + PS3 = all I need.
lachesis
Member
Well, with my eclectic gaming taste, there's no such "main" platform anymore.
Heck, I spent about 100+ hours on Persona 3 FES that I'm playing right now on PS3, and also wrapping up Ace Attorney - Sprit of Justice on 3DS.
After I'm done with Persona, thinking about jumping onto XSX for Yakuza 4 - or continue on my nth play thru of SOTN - or finally play Valkyria Chronicle or Danganronpa on Steam... or Resident Evil 7/2RE/3RE on PS5....
or finally give my Switch some love. I've been sitting on so many games on it.
It's where the games are, I will be.. not the other way around.
Heck, I spent about 100+ hours on Persona 3 FES that I'm playing right now on PS3, and also wrapping up Ace Attorney - Sprit of Justice on 3DS.
After I'm done with Persona, thinking about jumping onto XSX for Yakuza 4 - or continue on my nth play thru of SOTN - or finally play Valkyria Chronicle or Danganronpa on Steam... or Resident Evil 7/2RE/3RE on PS5....
or finally give my Switch some love. I've been sitting on so many games on it.
It's where the games are, I will be.. not the other way around.
Oh man, I feel you. When it comes to gamepads, I have Xbox Elite 1, Elite 2, PS4, Switch Pro, and two Steam controllers (in case one breaks, lol). The Elite controller is by far my favorite for PC, due to its heft, and configurability. Plus the D-pad micro switches or whatever are PERFECT. But it would be soooo much better with gyro. I might even would use it with some FPS if it did. Single player anyway… I wouldn’t play Quake or Battlefield with fucking thumbsticks, gyro or no gyro. So close, yet so far.
SenkiDala
Member
I did the opposite, I have a 32" 240hz screen, had a 3080 based rig, but didn't see such a huge difference and I feel more comfy on the couch in front of TV. So sold the GPU for 1700$ and kept the rest, waiting for the prices to drop again to get a 500$ GPU eventually, don't miss PC gaming a bit.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
lol actually I could sell my 3080 pc and buy a car... but that 3080 fe is too damn beautiful even if I barely use it
TheTony316
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Probably not. PC either lacks the games that i want or gets them too late.
Krappadizzle
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There's not really been a compelling reason to own either console yet. I've been day and date for nearly every single console since the PS2 and this is the first generation I outright skipped. I'll get them eventually but I'll wait until there's a better reason.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Nah, PC gaming is still expensive than gaming console, I own 3 gaming PC and PS3 - PS5.
PC gaming may be cheap in your country, but not for mine. FYI, a gaming PC with 2070super and 3700x cost 3 times more than PS5 in my country.
Based on my experience, if a gaming PC that has similar specs with gaming console, games would probably runs better on the said gaming console.
lils
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i believe you are far as the initial purchase price, but what about online fees, more expensive games, and inability to repair or upgrade it? all these things are quite costly.
what about next generation when you're already locked into their closed ecosystem, and have to suffer these things again or lose access to your games and stuff?
and by the way, a 3700x is enormously more powerful than a ps5 cpu
in a sense, yes. because consoles are standardised, developers can make specific optimisations that they otherwise wouldn't be able to.
but unfortunately you can't change settings, which results in a net loss of fidelity if, for example, you don't like motion blur/depth of field/chromatic aberration/film grain/FXAA looks terrible, which i think most people do.
the worst of all though is v-sync. as far as i'm aware, the console forces it so it can't be turned off, even by developers. this means massively increased input lag. so on PC it would be much more responsive at the same framerate
captainpat
Member
Now is probably the worst time to go back to pc. Even at scalped prices for the ps5/xsx you're still getting a better deal than comparable pcs and parts.
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Crimson_Fate
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The PS5 is likely my last console , this seems to be generation remake. Depending upon where they go with PSVR2 would be the only thing which would bring me back.
I may end up going to PC in some part even if I stay
I may end up going to PC in some part even if I stay
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DigitalScrap
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I don't really have a "main" per se. I always buy all the consoles every generation, and I have also always also played on PC. I keep my gaming PC fairly up to date, although I am no longer one to chase specs constantly (currently running an AMD Ryzen 3950x with 32GB RAM and a RTX 3060).
For me, PC gaming is just as frustration free as console gaming. There will always be a place for both for me. PS5 will be strictly for exclusives - no reason at all to ever play multiplats there. The only reason I still buy Xbox consoles is because sometimes I want to play games on the couch on the large TV.
I have never understood the tribalism of this console vs. that console, or PC vs. consoles. I simply enjoy playing games, and the different platforms give me different experiences. For me, no specific one is "better" than the other (although from a technical standpoint, PC will always win, but I don't play games to obsess over tech - I do that enough in my day to day life professionally).
For me, PC gaming is just as frustration free as console gaming. There will always be a place for both for me. PS5 will be strictly for exclusives - no reason at all to ever play multiplats there. The only reason I still buy Xbox consoles is because sometimes I want to play games on the couch on the large TV.
I have never understood the tribalism of this console vs. that console, or PC vs. consoles. I simply enjoy playing games, and the different platforms give me different experiences. For me, no specific one is "better" than the other (although from a technical standpoint, PC will always win, but I don't play games to obsess over tech - I do that enough in my day to day life professionally).
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Brofist
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I can still boot up my Steam games that are 20+ year old games, try sticking your 20 year old plastic disc games in to your latest PS console and see where that gets you.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
people forget how annoying and broken pc gaming can be. Latest bug: from time to time I can get stutter and a single beeping noise. I ignored it. Playing a game I get this extreme stutters about every minute or two. No beep.
after a week of hearing the damn beep I do some research and find out it’s the damn windows 11 wallpaper randomisation lol. It was fine on windows 10. But causes lag on 11. And the beep was windows informing me about that…. A single beep thanks Microsoft.
the only fix is to disable it for now. I am an oled user. Thanks Microsoft.
and so on so on. I might have 3080/3700x and generally a pc worth like 3k. But windows is still windows and you will be scratching your head instead of doing anything else from time to time. It’s just an annoying hurdle but still
after a week of hearing the damn beep I do some research and find out it’s the damn windows 11 wallpaper randomisation lol. It was fine on windows 10. But causes lag on 11. And the beep was windows informing me about that…. A single beep thanks Microsoft.
the only fix is to disable it for now. I am an oled user. Thanks Microsoft.
and so on so on. I might have 3080/3700x and generally a pc worth like 3k. But windows is still windows and you will be scratching your head instead of doing anything else from time to time. It’s just an annoying hurdle but still
Nickolaidas
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I agree that pc gaming is far from perfect and is not the best option for plug and play.
However, on PC I know that once I improve the hardware, all games become better, almost every single one.
Shadow Warrior 2 can run at 8K/60fps if you have the top hardware.
On PS5? You're still stuck with Shadow Warrior 2 running at 1080p/30fps.
You have a Series X? Congrats, you can play Oblivion via X360 BC. And it looks like this:
On PC? Thanks to modding, it can look like this:
So ... I want my games to look as best as they can be. And decided to go all PC.
Will there be shitty PC ports like Arkham Knight? Of course. But they can be patched and fixed, and the majority of games will run much, much better.
nickfrancis86
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I'm content will the performance of most games I've played on my PS5 so far. But I'd still like more options or flexibility before it would ever be considered my main platform.
I'd like to see more granular settings, I can't stand motion blur for example and always turn it off if available. It still amazes me that the PS5 doesn't have some sort of VRR implementation. DLSS is an absolute game changer and far far superior to any reconstruction method employed by a console.
I'm lucky to have a 9900K and a 2080ti that is still holding its own on my ultrawide.
To be honest I just love modding and emulation too which will never really be a thing on a console.
I'd like to see more granular settings, I can't stand motion blur for example and always turn it off if available. It still amazes me that the PS5 doesn't have some sort of VRR implementation. DLSS is an absolute game changer and far far superior to any reconstruction method employed by a console.
I'm lucky to have a 9900K and a 2080ti that is still holding its own on my ultrawide.
To be honest I just love modding and emulation too which will never really be a thing on a console.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
It feels like one of those religious cultus who are desperately trying to recruit new members.
if people enjoy PC gaming then great, good for them but do we really need bunch of threads about why people should switch to PC gaming!?
I get the benefits of PC gaming but my answer is still the same, I just not interested.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
First one you can respect?
When 360 came out, it ran games better than many pc's at the time.
I only remember ps4/xone had weak cpus compared to their release dates
Fare thee well
Neophyte
Since I had a Commodore in my hands at the age of 3, pc is my main!
But yea, I got those consoles too. Currently not really using them though because I've been in a flight sim/RTS mood.
But yea, I got those consoles too. Currently not really using them though because I've been in a flight sim/RTS mood.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Which is a problem in of itself, but I can still just take out my old PS1, hell my old Magnavox Odyssey and play the damn thing without any problems. Plug in a few wires, put in the cart/disk and immediately start playing within 3 min Or less.
I can’t do that on PC without spending 30 min to multiple hours configuring files, settings, and more to get the thing to run.
As for Steam? Still renting and as soon as you lose access to that account (or when the service shuts down/unable to log in/numerous other problems that can arise with having a forced online connectivity mandate) you lose the game. At least with my physical PC games I am not tied to internet requirements and can play whenever. We have already seen online only services such as the Wii eShop shut down and screw hundreds of thousands out of their purchases. Not going through that shit again.
Midn1ght
Member
Some fair points here but how about patches and updates?
I always think of No Man's Sky when someone is talking about physical. If these stores shut down and you have the first edition disk, you only have a broken empty unfinished version of the game, far far from what it is today. Same could be said about Cyberpunk and many other games.
If Steam shuts down, I feel that most games will be saved and uploaded online so people can go download full version of their games. Hell, sometimes people are doing dev works and fixing games for free on PC. Not sure if this will happen on consoles which is why the PS3/Vita store debacle earlier this year was scary for a lot of people.
They are nice to collect thought.
sircaw
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Sinfulgore
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Nope. I choose the platform I play games on based on price and the type of game it is. If it's a short one-and-done game like Guardians of the galaxy I'll play it on consoles because I have the option to rent it or sell it back when I finish. I won't ever pay more than $30 for a digital-only game.
Nickolaidas
Member
I know there's an awesome joke there, but I can't find it.Funding that hooker habit sure has taken it's toll
And I'm not being sarcastic.
Please give me context, sensei!!
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
The games like No Man’s Sky are very few and far between. The vast majority of physical games are complete on disc outside of minor DLC that doesn’t really add much of anything. Even then, often times we get all DLC on disk with a “GotY” release later on If those minor bits of content is really important for you. Out of the 2000+ physical games I own ,maybe 20 of them are as you describe, and that is being generous.
If Steam Shuts down then you suggest piracy? Yes, on PC you can find Roms for nearly any game you want, but that isn’t legal. Even if you did, at one point “purchase” the digital product, you still don’t own it. That is hte issue.
I love my PC, but the move to Digital was a terrible mistake. One I don’t want to see other platforms continue to try and push for as it gives consumers less rights and less control. It’s objectively a bad decision.
Midn1ght
Member
I don't encouragef piracy but if Steam shuts down with zero access to my library, i'd have no problem downloading what I paid a lot of money for even if it's illegal.
But let's be real, if that ever happen, the shitstorm would be so massive that a legal solution will probably emerge of it.
I can see how the total loss of physical media on PC can be bothersome and it's certainly better to have choices, it's still the case on consoles at least.
There are so many times I consider going to consoles instead. It's so convenient to hit the Xbox/PS button, have the console and TV started by the press of that button, jump straight into an interface built for gaming, hit A/X and a start a game.
To this point it's great but every time I tried I get sucked back to reality. Loading times are abysmal on last gen consoles. I could probably deal with that, but seing on Digital Foundry how many games STILL struggle to maintain (almost) a perfect frame time at 30fps makes we wonder. Wanted to order Mass Effect Legendary Edition on PS4 but seing that even the PS4 Pro can't maintain 30fps all the time because the dynamic resolution isn't going low enough, I think I'll grab the PC version.
Just yesterday I played Outriders on Xbox One X. I noticed a serious drop in visual quality (lack of details in textures and ground coverage) and lack of image quality. The worst is the double buffered 30fps v-sync though that introduces a very noticeable input lag. Playing on the same TV, the PC version capped at 30fps via RTSS and it's smooth as it should be. Rarely any frame drops, more responsive, less input lag, better image quality due to DLSS (quality setting up scaled to 4k).
On the other hand I have this weird behavior that the game (and some. others) love to switch to windowed mode either on start up or changing resolutions in the graphics options.
So I ultimately still need my keyboard and mouse at my side to handle the OS/interface of Windows.
Also, I love haptic feedback and adaptive triggers of the DualSense and the supported PC games list is very very short. So I'm really torn between those worlds but find myself always coming back to PC despite its inconveniences.
I wish Windows would provide an OS like on console. Boot up in an interface that is tailored for gaming and can be controlled with a game pad flawlessly.
And even if Valve would finally update their Big Picture mode and you could somehow boot straight into that, then you'll still have this shit of handling Origin, Ubiconnect, Epic or GOG.
But maybe that's where I belong... between both worlds and picking the version of a game that runs best on either platform.
To this point it's great but every time I tried I get sucked back to reality. Loading times are abysmal on last gen consoles. I could probably deal with that, but seing on Digital Foundry how many games STILL struggle to maintain (almost) a perfect frame time at 30fps makes we wonder. Wanted to order Mass Effect Legendary Edition on PS4 but seing that even the PS4 Pro can't maintain 30fps all the time because the dynamic resolution isn't going low enough, I think I'll grab the PC version.
Just yesterday I played Outriders on Xbox One X. I noticed a serious drop in visual quality (lack of details in textures and ground coverage) and lack of image quality. The worst is the double buffered 30fps v-sync though that introduces a very noticeable input lag. Playing on the same TV, the PC version capped at 30fps via RTSS and it's smooth as it should be. Rarely any frame drops, more responsive, less input lag, better image quality due to DLSS (quality setting up scaled to 4k).
On the other hand I have this weird behavior that the game (and some. others) love to switch to windowed mode either on start up or changing resolutions in the graphics options.
So I ultimately still need my keyboard and mouse at my side to handle the OS/interface of Windows.
Also, I love haptic feedback and adaptive triggers of the DualSense and the supported PC games list is very very short. So I'm really torn between those worlds but find myself always coming back to PC despite its inconveniences.
I wish Windows would provide an OS like on console. Boot up in an interface that is tailored for gaming and can be controlled with a game pad flawlessly.
And even if Valve would finally update their Big Picture mode and you could somehow boot straight into that, then you'll still have this shit of handling Origin, Ubiconnect, Epic or GOG.
But maybe that's where I belong... between both worlds and picking the version of a game that runs best on either platform.
T-Cake
Member
Even though my PC is now middle-aged, I am slowly finishing up my remaining games on PS4, then I will be switching over to PC full-time with the odd dip into PlayStation via PS Now. Hopefully Sony will start adding PS5 capability to their cloud system during 2022. It costs more in the long run for me to use a console simply because the games are so expensive on PS Store and you get an absolute barrow full of them for ZERO on PC - Epic's weekly giveaways, GOG's giveaways, Ubisoft's giveaways, etc.
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RAIDEN1
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Ironically I just brought a Series X of someone who didn't need the console as they are building their own gaming PC. For me the series X is the full-stop, I won't be buying any iterations ie a slim etc, until there is another big leap that demands me to upgrade the tech, otherwise my base Xbox was perfectly fine since 2014....nothing on the PS5 warrants a purchase of the console even after a year has gone by..and I am happy sticking with the Pro as of now..
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Yeah, my PS4 died and I can't find a 5, so fuck it, back to PC as main. It more or less doubles as an Xbox these days.
Just ordered a new monitor with G-Sync and other modern features to make it a little nicer. I should be good to sit this gen out until they fix their supply problems.
Just ordered a new monitor with G-Sync and other modern features to make it a little nicer. I should be good to sit this gen out until they fix their supply problems.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
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No way, my pc is for many things but not gaming. My gamingmachine to go to is the Playstation, bought the playstation (1) never left playstation, and never will.
Until Sony does not make a Playstation console anymore.
Until Sony does not make a Playstation console anymore.
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