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[FrankWza]

i don't see any attempts to FORCE anything like in other games

Does the game FORCE you to provide your pronouns or is it completely optional?

That’s the name of the game

 

[mcjmetroid]

I mean it's a customization option so it's fine. It's not like they're forcing a character into the story.
Why not include it. I would even though I think it's all made up.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

Might as well just let us be the car then. That's how all my Hot Wheels functioned.

 

[FrankWza]

Might as well just let us be the car then. That's how all my Hot Wheels functioned.

 

[The Skull]

I mean options are cool but will it not just be a never ending slippery slope with requests for every gender possible?

 

[Gaelyon]

It reminds me this old nerd joke :

"There's TEN sort of people on earth :
1- People that understand binary
2- The others."

Ps : I don't care myself and if that make some people happy good for them.

 

[ANDS]

Kudos for them adding in customisation
Doesn’t really do anything for me but if it makes people happy then that’s good

It's about as low effort and impact as possible as you still have to pick between a masculine of feminine sounding voice.

Endless pandering.

See the above.

 

[rofif]

Non binary is bullshit.
You are either one or another. You cannoy be nothing. Human biology is not like that...
It doesn't make anyone happy. These non binary people never even complaint.... it's all the other crazy people who scream for them and make them look bad

 

[Hayabusabruh]

Lol. I just went from "Gonna install this when I get home to "should I?"

 

[ACESHIGH]

Game set in Mexico

Destroys the Spanish language using inclusive pronouns.

Go fuck yourself Microsoft. You don't respect our culture at all. This is what happens when recruiters go to western college campuses to hire. Proper folk from Latin America would slap these entitled kiddies right on the spot.

And I am not even talking about the biology angle. If you want to respect Hispanic culture respecting the language is a must. Otherwise stick to Forza Horizon Anglosphere/commonwealth/five eyes edition.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

Does the game force you to provide your pronouns or is it completely optional?

Always did, Dick Pussy or both? idk

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Game set in Mexico

Destroys the Spanish language using inclusive pronouns.

Go fuck yourself Microsoft. You don't respect our culture at all. This is what happens when recruiters go to western college campuses to hire. Proper Latin American would slap these entitled kiddies right on the spot.

*laughs in latinx*

 

[FrankWza]

Game set in Mexico

Destroys the Spanish language using inclusive pronouns.

Go fuck yourself Microsoft. You don't respect our culture at all. This is what happens when recruiters go to western college campuses to hire. Proper Latin American would slap these entitled kiddies right on the spot.

 

[Rudius]

Can I customize my genitals?

 

[CeeJay]

pronouns are all well and good but does the game actually ever refer to the player in the third person? Typically a narrator would refer to characters in the third person but does this even happen in a Forza game or is simply just to declare and show on a players profile? If it's the latter then why even bother putting any pronouns on at all? Or am i going to get flamed on Xbox Live if I use the wrong one when shouting about someone's shit driving because I first didn't check their profile before reacting?

 

[Kimahri]

So.. Why even make a driver in a driving game? You're behind a wheel, what's the point?

Can't really help but feel like this is just creating a problem in order to fix it.

I don't care either way, I just don't really see what this is supposed to achieve.

 

[Hayabusabruh]

Microsoft has figured out a loop hole to high score exclusives. Can't wait for Crack Down 4:Systemic Oppression.

 

[BigSquanch]

This series features a radio host that will frequently refer to the player's "character" and has ALWAYS referred to the player as they/them"

What this game has added is the ability to have the game refer to you as he or she.

But of course anti-woke idiots will eat this up as pandering.

 

[FrozenFlame]

Honest question: Why don't they give us some non-human characters too? Like a grey alien or a dog.

I want to play as this dog.

Future free dlc, "Fast & Furryous".

 

[Clear]

But of course anti-woke idiots will eat this up as pandering.

But it is pandering.

 

[TheDreadLord]

I am not sure about pronouns usage, but if they are in, they should make sure to be all-in. There will be always someone left behind if you are not careful. So, you either stick to the current language usage or do deep research and make sure you are covering all the loopholes. Otherwise it can backfire to the studio.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Is it wrong that I didnt know which one to choose?

I think I picked right. Why cant we have one that just says 'bloke'

Total bollocks that is.

 

[BigSquanch]

But it is pandering.

To who?

 

[ethomaz]

What it is used in English instead he/she? It?

In Portuguese there is nothing to use instead Ele (he) ou Ela (she) yet.

 

[FrankWza]

So.. Why even make a driver in a driving game? You're behind a wheel, what's the point?

Can't really help but feel like this is just creating a problem in order to fix it.

I don't care either way, I just don't really see what this is supposed to achieve.

It’s not a sim. It’s an arcade racer and it’s open world

 

[Topher]

What it is used in English instead he/she? It?

In Portuguese there is nothing to use instead Ele (he) ou Ela (she) yet.

It will be interesting to see what options are given for non-English languages.

 

[Wooxsvan]

I would have no issue with this at all but if you dont agree with it you get all sorts of hate. Interesting how they want you to be forced to use your words to their will. Only Their rights matter. You can be whatever, without consequence of losing your job or being kicked off the platform etc, but then I should also have the right to not have to call you by what you think you are without losing my job or being kicked off line. Equality.

 

[Honey Bunny]

Lol

 

[M1chl]

Does that work for other languages or is just for English?

It doesn't, it's wrong at least from my language, as seen in here:

Don't try to make this a thing in our glorious gendered language (by default). Or at very least do it right.

It's on/něm, ona/ní, oni/nich. What they wrote there, definitely broke my brain and everyone in charge of our language now rotating in grave.

But still rather don't do this.

Absolutely unplayable

You don't need this shit for gendered language. It just shows the ignorance of someone (obviously from English speaking country) who put it there.

 

[Fbh]

No option for the avatar to be in a furry suit and be referred to as "furry self"?
Why does MS hate furries?

 

[Clear]

To who?

An ideological minority that as part of their rhetoric demands being addressed by a doctrinal not biological term.

 

[Punished Miku]

The option is fine. Don't shove it in my face all the time and I'm good.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

Why aren't all cars in the game wheelchair accessible? Does MS have a problem with quadriplegics?

 

[Topher]

It doesn't, it's wrong at least from my language, as seen in here:


You don't need this shit for gendered language. It just shows the ignorance of someone (obviously from English speaking country) who put it there.

Damn......so is this how our fucked up American social politics forces its way into other cultures?

sorry....wasn't me

 

[Holammer]

"Activist. Healer. Radical intersectionalist poet. Nonwhite. Ecosexual. Pronouns: variable. Selfless and brave. Buy my books"

Titania is a parody account btw, but the clip linked isn't.

 

[Ammogeddon]

I had to double check I was in the right forum after seeing this thread.

 

[Kimahri]

It’s not a sim. It’s an arcade racer and it’s open world

I mean, yeah. Games like this used to be completely gender neutral. Now they're not. Now they're "tell everyone everything about you".

What if I don't want to? Can I skip this whole thing?

 

[StateofMajora]

This gives me an excuse to non binary purchase the game if you catch my drift. I will never support this sickness.

 

[Banjo64]

Does the game force you to provide your pronouns or is it completely optional?

You gotta pick. They didn’t have my pronoun available to select though; Biggus Dickus. Shame.

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

couldn't care less

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

8 letter can send people into a frenzy. I love it...I hope every game ads a non binary option just to see the crying over it. But genuinely don't care about this...as someone who respects others gender pronouns.

 

[CeeJay]

What it is used in English instead he/she? It?

In Portuguese there is nothing to use instead Ele (he) ou Ela (she) yet.

In English "They/Them" is used to describe a group of more than one person that is gender agnostic.

"They went to the park", "Have you seen them at the park"

"It/They/Them" is normally used to describe one or more genderless objects "It" being the singular.

"It was seen in the park", "They were seen in the park", "Have you seen them in the park?"

Calling a person an "It" would be seen as extremely degrading and lacking respect.

Non-Binary parlance says that "They" is to be used in all instances where "It" would otherwise be used.

 

[rickybooby87]

Eh, who cares lol.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

Why do they include both the nominative and oblique declensions of the various pronouns? He and him are the same pronoun: the pronoun is he.

 

[Stuart360]

I always appreciate how much effort Microsoft put into their games in regards to people with mental health problems.

 

[FrankWza]

I mean, yeah. Games like this used to be completely gender neutral. Now they're not. Now they're "tell everyone everything about you".

What if I don't want to? Can I skip this whole thing?

I was just replying to the part about the driver and why they made it a “character”
But maybe ask in the OT about what you can skip or omit?

 

[M1chl]

Damn......so is this how our fucked up American social politics forces its way into other cultures?

sorry....wasn't me

Let me demonstrate, why it's not needed in languages like Spanish, Czech, etc. You know by default what prononun person uses in first or second sentence, which you hear from them.

So let's presume "Nice to meet you" in English.

Now in Czech:

- She "Ráda tě poznavám"
- He "Rád tě poznávám"
- They "Rádi tě poznaváme" < I don't think that anyone here ever will use they like that. Non-binary people here, just have to take the chad approach and accept any/all


English people are jelly, that they don't have some glorious gendered language.

But with all of this, it's still means that it's written badly in the game, grammatically incorrect. And I have dyslexia, I hate the verbose grammar of my language, but still, this is something to be laugh at if you would talk like that. It's IQ below 70 level.

 

[Punished Miku]

Why do they include both the nominative and oblique declensions of the various pronouns? He and him are the same pronoun: the pronoun is he.

Correct grammar is violence.

 

[Stuart360]

In the future this is going to be real. Also, you are going to lose your job and maybe go to the jail for misgendering someone.

I guess i'll be going to jail at some point in the future then lol.

 

[ElCasual]

Lets say " F**K OFF THE BIOLOGY" with ray tracing