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Genshin Impact |OT| 4.0 (Fontaine) - Je m'appelle "la baleine"

Fuz

Banned
With events and stuff you should be able to hit pity again given how long the banners are. So I guess drop a 10 roll? Only problem is if you miss the 50/50.
Yeah, I think so too but I need to be sure, that's why I was asking in here for someone more informed than me about resources.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
You guys want this rite

So fugly.
Yeah, I think so too but I need to be sure, that's why I was asking in here for someone more informed than me about resources.

IIRC each patch is around 7 to 8k ~40-45 wishes (plus stardust) for F2P. But it doesn't change anything because regardless of what you have, you want to pull on heroes you like. Because If not, why even play?)

Besides, there's no such thing as sure in gacha. I lost all 50 / 50 on Baal. But pulled Geo Lord in 20. What you're afraid of anyway?

You'll get ONE of them regardless and that's OK. Let's be honest, neither of them is a must have gamechanger.

More heroes are coming later. You're worried like you're gonna pull and then immediately drop the game haha
 
Yeah, I think so too but I need to be sure, that's why I was asking in here for someone more informed than me about resources.
According to google, one can earn 240 primos on average each day if you do your daily tasks and complete all events, Abyss etc.

Assuming Itto gets his banner first, there's 50 days (8 days left for Childe, 21 for Hu Tao, 21 for Itto) from now until the end of Itto's banner. That's 12.000 primos, or 75 wishes. Going with the worst case scenario (90 wishes for each 5 star), that would be enough to guarantee three 5 stars with your current resources (69 pity + 141 + 75 = 285 wishes ÷ 90 = 3,16).

Some patches aren't as generous though, or the time frame in which big paying events take place could be unfavorable. That 240 a day is just an average after all. If we happen to get less, let's say 160 primos per day, that would be enough to buy 50 wishes, which is not quite enough to hit pity thrice (69 + 141 + 50 = 260 ÷ 90 = 2,88). In this case you'd be lacking 12 wishes to achieve that guarantee.

Conclusion: If Itto hits the banner first, you're pretty likely to get him. You'd need to be very unlucky (hitting pity late multiple times, lacking primo payouts) for this to go wrong. If Itto is the second banner you are guaranteed to get him, as you'd have more than one and a half patch to save up enough for 70 wishes, which shouldn't be an issue.
 

Pejo

Member
Well, I do want Childe, I like his kit and I always liked dual weapons. I only hate that horrible elemental skill cooldown. But my top priority is Itto.
I have 141 wishes right now.
69 nice pulls done, so with a bit of luck just one multipull for Childe. But I would reset my pity.

My trigger finger is itching.
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Man it rains in California and everyone loses their damn minds. My internet has been out for going on 12 hours, just came back. I was right in the middle of my no healing/no death run when I lost it earlier. Wonder if it saved my progress.

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Neat Yoimecha

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YukiOnna

Member
Do It GIF


Man it rains in California and everyone loses their damn minds. My internet has been out for going on 12 hours, just came back. I was right in the middle of my no healing/no death run when I lost it earlier. Wonder if it saved my progress.

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Neat Yoimecha
I thought you were on vacation again or something, lol. I guess the rumors of rain being lethal in the west coast is true.
 

Pejo

Member
Leaks are slowly coming in about the 2 costumes coming up. Supposedly Keqing's changes her hairstyle a bit and Ning's is blue and more lewd than her standard outfit. That's all of the details so far.
 

YukiOnna

Member
Leaks are slowly coming in about the 2 costumes coming up. Supposedly Keqing's changes her hairstyle a bit and Ning's is blue and more lewd than her standard outfit. That's all of the details so far.
Curious to see Ning's now if this is true...
 

Fuz

Banned
Still think that the flying wolf-worm looks like shit and super cheap.

They really didn't want to make complex animations.
 

Pejo

Member
Still think that the flying wolf-worm looks like shit and super cheap.

They really didn't want to make complex animations.
I kinda like it, but it seems that it's a boss that just exists to force you to use bow/catalyst users. Apparently it spends a considerable amount of time out of melee range, based on beta feedback. MHY already reduced the amount of "in the air" time apparently since the beginning of the beta.

Hope you guys leveled your Klees/Nings/Lisas/Kokomis

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BlackM1st

Banned
Hope you guys leveled your Klees/Nings/Lisas/Kokomis
1 is not the same as others... hm...
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Told you guys, always told you to pull for her... since the Ice Mountain best girl never let me down.

In case if shit hits the fan... I have an emergency button too lmao

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And I LOVE how new boss basically ignores the latest banners. Pull more people!
 

BlackM1st

Banned
Yeesh, they really want people to pull weapon banner. That CDMG is nuts.

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R5 or nothing! ;D

Great stats, great design, passive is worthless which makes it a great stat stick, but ultimately it's not something OMG I NEED IT for me. I'll just keep refining my BP claymore.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
Don't know what CN censorship brings to us in the future, but lately all GI female designs were pretty good:

EULA
YMY
BAAL
FISHLADY
YAE

Sure, we had Ayaka who's design is very tame (nothing wrong with it) and was nerfed in the pantsu department (bastards), but overall I'm hopeful regarding future female releases even if some of them are a little samey looking and tame.

Unfortunately we will probably never gonna get anything close to a fan art, but eh, I can't deny how talented GI designers are. Poor fellas try to squeeze water from a rock working through such strict regulations...
 

Pejo

Member
Don't know what CN censorship brings to us in the future, but lately all GI female designs were pretty good:

EULA
YMY
BAAL
FISHLADY
YAE

Sure, we had Ayaka who's design is very tame (nothing wrong with it) and was nerfed in the pantsu department (bastards), but overall I'm hopeful regarding future female releases even if some of them are a little samey looking and tame.

Unfortunately we will probably never gonna get anything close to a fan art, but eh, I can't deny how talented GI designers are. Poor fellas try to squeeze water from a rock working through such strict regulations...
I saw a video that talked about Signora not likely ever being playable in her current outfit/design that made a lot of sense, and explored some of the stuff that the devs do when making designs. Actually, here it is:



I know you guys don't like this girl's voice, but she has some good lore videos.

I think the barometer for designs is going to be the next few costumes. If they keep Jean-ing the new costumes, it's probably not gonna be good.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
If they keep Jean-ing the new costumes, it's probably not gonna be good.
First of all it's not gonna be good for their sales IMO. You guys are crazy for Itto's hard rock nips, but I think it's hardly a design language that will last them for long.

I saw a video that talked about Signora not likely ever being playable in her current outfit/design
Shame. I still don't see anything wrong with her looks, but I think her being unapologetically evil is also a big problem for censors.


I think the barometer for designs is going to be the next few costumes
"Lewd" Ningg with bare shoulders would be another travesty lol I have no hopes for her skin tbh with it being 4☆ and probably free. I wanna see Electric Cat skin AND some future female heroes.

Itto and that loathsome pup boy is um... let's say isn't something I would call a perfect designs in the eyes of censors too. So I can ignore skins, but I really interested in the future heroes.

I'm eagerly waiting for Lady Shinano equivalent:
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Is it really too much to ask ? ;_;
 

Pejo

Member
The sad part is that MHY actually WANTS to do that stuff, but their country of origin is making it tougher every day, and they won't split the CN/other region versions after the shit they caught from the Honkai bunny girls thing. If it was just 2D .pngs like Azur Lane, I could see them running 2 versions of the game, but not with all the work they'd have to double for Genshin. Even Honkai got the censorship from CN version when they specifically had to add it to the files instead of just leave it alone, probably for similar reasons.

Honkai is kinda weird how they handle it though. There are actual real normal bikini swimsuits in the game with no covers and safety shorts etc, that players that played when they were originally available received. They can still use them, and if you play multiplayer with those people, the characters appear as uncensored swimsuits for everybody. There is, however, absolutely no way to actually obtain those swimsuits anymore. It makes you wonder that if they're already in the files and people can use them, why not make them obtainable? I still don't quite get that one.
 

YukiOnna

Member
Body detailing is good, but the face is off somehow. Their official figs are always a crapshoot. I didn't like the Keqing one but I like the Mona one.
Yeah, upon zooming in after they kind of messed up the face and eyes. I wish they'd get the veteran JP makers to do them instead.
 

Pejo

Member
Yeah, upon zooming in after they kind of messed up the face and eyes. I wish they'd get the veteran JP makers to do them instead.
Keq has the same face issues I feel:
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Meanwhile, Mona looks pretty faithful to her in-game look.
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It's funny too, Apex-toys made a few Honkai figs, and they look great. Hard to get a good shot on this one since the pose covers her face a bit, but they nailed it.
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YukiOnna

Member
Keq has the same face issues I feel:
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Meanwhile, Mona looks pretty faithful to her in-game look.
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It's funny too, Apex-toys made a few Honkai figs, and they look great. Hard to get a good shot on this one since the pose covers her face a bit, but they nailed it.
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It probably depends on whoever they got for the sculptor. Genshin ones clearly don't have the same quality/consistency and the AK ones from Apex are pretty good, too.

The Mona one is apparently by Good Smile and Wonderful Works who made those expensive Ryza figures. MHY went all out for her.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Shame. I still don't see anything wrong with her looks, but I think her being unapologetically evil is also a big problem for censors.
Signora won't be playable primarily because China is all about no evulz, is very sexualized and the datamine lists her as a monster instead of an avatar(meaning current or future playable character).

Since the character designs are watered down I really don't see much hope for characters like Signora.

Given Itto's weapon all I am really seeing is the games slow death spiral due to power creep. Similar to Fire Emblem Heroes and other gacha that rely on overtuned stat weights.
 
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Pejo

Member
Signora won't be playable primarily because China is all about no evulz, is very sexualized and the datamine lists her as a monster instead of an avatar(meaning current or future playable character).

Since the character designs are watered down I really don't see much hope for characters like Signora.

Given Itto's weapon all I am really seeing is the games slow death spiral due to power creep. Similar to Fire Emblem Heroes and other gacha that rely on overtuned stat weights.
I don't think powercreep can really cause the game's death in this game though. FEH is like 60% pulling on the gacha, 25% PVP modes, and the rest in misc bullshit and PVE story/grinding events. It's built by nature to require meta since you are railroaded into PVP if you want a decent income of rewards.

Genshin has no PVP, and the only "endgame" content that even requires you to carefully consider team building is Abyss and occasionally an overtuned timed battle event. Everything else you can just do with your favorites with no negative results at all.

It's fine that so many people focus on Meta, since that's usually good for the health of the game, but you can totally and completely ignore it and still have a good time.

I think more than power creep, Itto's weapon is showing that they're going to pretty much dump character specific weapons for all of their new big hype releases. They've been doing it for a while now, but his, Shogun, and Kokomi have been pretty much ideal for them, and them only. That's a bigger problem IMO. Earlier weapons could be used on a variety of characters in different builds, but other than Noelle and maybe Xinyan if you actually care about her DEF scaling would ever want that Claymore. Just like how the 4*s are getting ultra-specialized now, where Gorou only works in a Geo-focus team and Sara only works paired with Shogun. So now you've got a weapon and a 4* character that are ONLY good for 1-2 other characters, otherwise worthless. That's a far cry from how universally good Benny/Sucrose are, or the Crit% weapons, Wolf's Gravestone, etc.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
The thing that players are going to hate though is for optimal play they will need to pull that character ANNNNND the weapon. And that'll suck big time. Since they on different banners.
 
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