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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Added to the main post so people can see this thing isn't just on drawing boards
Hezekiah
Banned
State of Decay 3 too.
Last year's conference was more about revealing the number of games coming to GamePass than anything to do with timeliness.
3liteDragon
Member
But Jez only said we’ll see Hellblade II at the TGAs though.
Captain Toad
Banned
What does "pre-production" imply to you?
Great Hair
Banned
mortal
Gold Member
Hope it's a real-time story trailer or a gameplay demo, been asking for this for ages.
Hellblade 2 was literally the first next gen game announced for Xbox Series back in VGA 2019.
We're long overdue for gameplay at this point. Anything short of gameplay would be bullshit imo.
kuncol02
Banned
I would watch that movie. Isn't that Kill Bill story?
If you would read what Jez Corden actually wrote you would know that he actually didn't mean to use word "pre-production".
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
But since he did use the word "pre-production" is it okay to question people and call them names or fanboys (I've seen this on GAF, Twitter, Reddit, etc.) only because they are going by the literal definition of pre-production?
If anything, it's on Jez, not the readers who are going by the usual definition. He should have been more careful with his description.
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
Obsidian with a big budget, not possible to not be hyped. Even when Outer Worlds was mediocre (for Obsidian standards).
abacab driver
Banned
Sounds awesome..can't wait to see it.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
I'm not doing your homework. Do your own. But I can tell you the way your thinking of "pre production" is wrong AF.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
I've worked with enough composers and writers for video games to know better.
And, I am calm. It's the dumb ass responses that are aggressive.
R6Rider
Gold Member
Topher
Gold Member
If you have actual experience that you can share and educate others on what "pre-production" really means in application then that would probably be helpful.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
You are not calm.
MOTM
Banned
He doesn’t but why are you acting like you have 12 IQ?
You’re talking 100% rubbish.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Seconded. Pre-production literally means a phase before full production. That's why we have three phases: pre-production, full production, and post-production.
If the guy, based on his experience, knows that pre-production means something else -- instead of, well, pre-production -- he should explain it calmly. Because, to be fair, no one would really know it means something else just by looking at the word and its literal meaning.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Jez is pretty reliable as an Xbox leaker. His article gives a very good idea of what the game is expected to be based on early information...The RPG community seems to be excited about it based on this leak so i wouldn't call him a moron at all. Plus games aren't made linearly. like he said, when all he systems come together it enters the next stage. But its not like they finish the game, then add the voices...its done concurrently. So the lighting may be done, but the level build he saw just didn't implement yet.
jakinov
Member
"Concept stage" is part of making the game. Fable and Perfect Dark also have slower start because they have to build the team out. Onboarding takes up time and slows down existing people and you can get negligible benefits early on because there's less work to be done and you hired all these people you been training to work later and not now.
They bought a bunch of studios that were already working on games or soon to release games. It should have been expected that it'll take a while before you see things paying off.
hyperbertha
Member
Calm down there bro. What are you, captain of Neogaf? STFU yourself, you insecure nitwit.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
Hope the visual tone is closer to the reveal trailer and not so colorful it makes for a more comedic mood.
Also hope MS announce some VR support soon, all these first-person games could really benefit from that for immersion.
Also hope MS announce some VR support soon, all these first-person games could really benefit from that for immersion.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Bro I said "moran" to indicate I was joking.
But he's been all over the place w/ describing what state the game is, and doesn't even know how old what he saw is. For him to have stated "deep pre-production" in the article was just, a clear mistake. He clearly just doesn't really know what stage the game is in. I don't think Jez is a moron at all but I also just don't think the article is particularly good.
I'm excited to learn more either way, but this was a bit of a fluff piece based on very little.
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Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Oh, okay my bad. I don't really expect much from Jez other than information and fluff pieces. I'm just excited to learn more about the game. I'm kind of in the mindset of "it comes when it comes" so little details here and there makes he wait more bearable.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
yurinka
Member
Pre-production means that its production didn't start.
So yes, it means planning and prototyping stages, where the maximum playable stuff they'd have would be a very short vertical slice demo and some prototypes. For a AAA games it means that they game is several years away from being released.
Even if he was wrong, and instead of in pre-production the game was well into productiion and in pre-alpha state instead, for a AAA game pre-alpha it means that it would be a joke to consider that the game could be released in a year or so.
Don't expect to see this game being released until minimum at least 2024 or 2025 if the game really is in preproduction or pre-alpha.
So yes, it means planning and prototyping stages, where the maximum playable stuff they'd have would be a very short vertical slice demo and some prototypes. For a AAA games it means that they game is several years away from being released.
Even if he was wrong, and instead of in pre-production the game was well into productiion and in pre-alpha state instead, for a AAA game pre-alpha it means that it would be a joke to consider that the game could be released in a year or so.
Don't expect to see this game being released until minimum at least 2024 or 2025 if the game really is in preproduction or pre-alpha.
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Riky
$MSFT
Good news if it appears spring time next year, gives us 6 months of Starfield and then this, better than everything at the end of the year.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Hope so. Obsidian can produce quickly, similarly to Insomniac. Personally I think this is a holiday game though, it’s got the potential to be a big one for Xbox.