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Uncharted Collection on PC leak just killed my desire to get a PS5 (Techradar)

Kataploom

Gold Member
lol at MUH EXCLUSIVVVSSSS!!, Sony is the most interested on porting their to PC, specially PS5 games, since their installed base is halved by the shortages
 

8BiTw0LF

Banned
Uhm... Why the hell do anyone care if PlayStation games comes to PC 1,2 or 3 years after they've released on PS? Makes absolutely no sense.
I get it, it's a bad business for Sony to release games on PC same time as console, cause they're mainly a hardware company - and they actually make money off of the consoles they sell. Releasing games at a later date for PC is good business for Sony - and good business for Sony, means better future for PlayStation console owners.

I will always play PS games on a console - that's why I bought a PS5.
Xbox games are released on gamepass for PC, so I will play those on PC.
Just a year ago, people had to buy 3 different systems to play the same games.
I can live with supporting a software company (MS) and a hardware company (Sony).

And for those who wants the freedom with a PC, can wait a little while and play all games - that's only going to hurt the fanboys who prays to a piece of plastic.
 
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lmimmfn

Member
Omg im so offended(even though my PS4 sits in the corner doing nothing, sitting idle, counting the days), my PC however is used for daily gaming :) , this might be fun too.
 
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Shmunter

Member
I don't know whats worse. This article or the fanboys actually triggered by such a stupid article lol.

If another re-release of a bunch ps3 games and uc4 are making you reconsider getting a Ps5 then you never really wanted one to begin with.
Not everyone cares about Day 1. Personally, timed exclusives do nothing for me due to a backlog a mile long, quite happy to wait.

I'm sure many PC gamers feel this way also due to big libraries. Simply knowing that pillar franchises will come is sufficient to kick back and relax, not feeling like they need another system to not miss out.

So business wise it raises an eyebrow, but personally couldn't care - unless it spreads dev's thin and quality/design is impacted.
 
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Concern

Member
Not everyone cares about Day 1. Personally, timed exclusives do nothing for me due to a backlog a mile long, quite happy to wait.

I'm sure many PC gamers feel this way also due to big libraries. Simply knowing that pillar franchises will come is sufficient to kick back and relax, not feeling like they need another system to not miss out.

So business wise it raises an eyebrow, but personally couldn't care - unless it spreads dev's thin and quality/design is impacted.


Its not about pc gamers. Its about Playstation owners. Anyone seriously considering a Ps5 wouldn't be swayed because of this game of all others imo.

Now you tell me UC 5 and other new games are releasing day and date or even just a year after and I could see it swaying pc owners away from buying a Ps5.
 

8BiTw0LF

Banned
So business wise it raises an eyebrow
Do it tho'?

If games are released a year or two later on PC, the console owners who waited that long to buy the games, probably buys them secondhand or waiting for a major discount = not the supporting type.
Secondly, consoles are extreme value for money and the PCMR users are few in the grand scale - but they (obviously) has money to buy new games.
Sony doesn't give a fuck about consumers who doesn't want to consume. Their focus is first year sales - everything else is just icing on the cake - PC sales is the cherry on top.
 

VAVA Mk2

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IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I bought PS2-4, PSP, and Vita because they had games I couldn't get anywhere else. Right now with a gaming laptop I have no reason to get a PS5. And if the PS5 doesn't get the exclusives, why should I ever get one?

I think I'm clearly part of the base given I even actually bought a Vita.

Well keep in mind this is a thread about 5+ year old games coming to PS5 lol, not "no exclusives."

Not that the word "base" is that important; but I've owned every Sony console too.. including PSP/Vita.. (hell I have 2 Vitas).. I don't consider myself part of their "base" because I've been PC gaming as my primary way to game my entire life.

If I don't buy a Playstation, and instead buy the games I was going to buy on PC anyways (as many of us PC gamers only buy exclusives).. what exactly have they lost? A small store cut?

They have a lot more to gain from PC gamers... who weren't buying their consoles, but now will buy their games.

Hell some of us will double dip.. might even buy MORE of their games as we prefer PC for a reason.
 
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MrFunSocks

Banned
I get it, it's a bad business for Sony to release games on PC same time as console, cause they're mainly a hardware company - and they actually make money off of the consoles they sell.
It's not bad for business, and they're (PlayStation) not mainly a hardware company. They make the vast majority of their money via subscriptions, dlc, first party digital game sales, and cuts of third party digital games.

Sony have just realized, like MS did years ago, that the PC and console markets don't cannibalize each other. People that call themselves "PC gamers" don't buy consoles, so Sony currently make $0 off them. Selling them games on PC means they make > $0. Good business. The number of people that would not buy a Playstation just because they release their games on PC as well would be miniscule.
 
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lh032

I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
Not every console gamer buys a gaming console because of exclusivity.

I game on console because....i like to game on console.
PC gaming and console are both different platforms.
I always prefer the simplicity of a gaming console.
Exclusivity is a big bonus, but not the main reason I game on console.
 
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Even if all games went to PC, you are either a console gamer or PC gamer so that wouldnt really make you switch unless you have spare cash lying around. If i was thinking the same, id need an extra $2000-$3000 just to start my PC venture. Obviously you are not going to buy a lemon PC but something that can properly run these games. So for me, right off the bat, I couldnt care less about PC. I got my iMac for work and I got consoles for fun.Also Im so used to playing on my couch I could never see myself going to PC and playing a game in front of a monitor 1m away from my face. Also, I prefer to jsut put in the disc and play and not worry about drivers, settings for shadows, AA etc to try and get something that fits my configuration. And I most def would never waste money on buying a new $1000 geforce card when they come out lol.
 
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coffinbirth

Member
The amount of people in this thread that are clearly not capable of reading is...concerning.
Read it over and over again until you comprehend what this guy is saying.

IF he were saying "hurr durr PS3 games on PC, me no buy PS5" then sure, stupid clickbait bullshit.....buuuuut he's not, and it's a solid point.
 
The amount of people in this thread that are clearly not capable of reading is...concerning.
Read it over and over again until you comprehend what this guy is saying.

IF he were saying "hurr durr PS3 games on PC, me no buy PS5" then sure, stupid clickbait bullshit.....buuuuut he's not, and it's a solid point.

He is saying the PS5 sales will be affected...how so, Microsoft has no issues having the same game on both platforms ON THE SAME DAY. Like I said above you are either a PC gamer already or console gamer. OP assumes everyone just naturally has a high end gaming PC lying around so why would you waste on a PS5 when you already have a device at home. Newsflash: not everyone has a PC and most definitely not everyone has a high end PC, id even go as far to say that 70% people here still play at 1080 resolution instead of 4K on their monitors because they don't have the HW to run all these games. PC could have a timed exclusivity on new PS5 titles and id still not switch to a PC due to monetary entrance level and the fact i just want to plug n play and not brainstorm does my card support the shaders presented in this game and is my CPU powerful enough to have shadows on HIGH.
 
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bender

What time is it?
We've got ourselves a READER! Oh, wait...

Points for a Bill Hicks reference but I'd put any amount of money that it was unintentional. Look Matt, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they don't comprehend the inane point you are trying to make.
 

coffinbirth

Member
Points for a Bill Hicks reference but I'd put any amount of money that it was unintentional. Look Matt, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they don't comprehend the inane point you are trying to make.
Let me guess, you're a Waffle House waitress???

The point that he was making was if you main a PC, you no longer have a reason to buy a Playstation for their exclusives. Is that inane? You can tell me after you fetch me some more flapjacks.
 

bender

What time is it?
Let me guess, you're a Waffle House waitress???

The point that he was making was if you main a PC, you no longer have a reason to buy a Playstation for their exclusives. Is that inane? You can tell me after you fetch me some more flapjacks.

You wouldn't go Waffle House to get flapjacks. I know it's a tough nut for you to crack but Waffle House sells waffles.

And as inane as it was, I think everyone understands the point you were making, Matt. If you can't understand the obvious fallacies with the argument, you should be less concerned other's reading comprehension and maybe look into some self improvement. I can recommend some books if you'd like.
 

coffinbirth

Member
He is saying the PS5 sales will be affected...how so, Microsoft has no issues having the same game on both platforms ON THE SAME DAY. Like I said above you are either a PC gamer already or console gamer. OP assumes everyone just naturally has a high end gaming PC lying around so why would you waste on a PS5 when you already have a device at home. Newsflash: not everyone has a PC and most definitely not everyone has a high end PC, id even go as far to say that 70% people here still play at 1080 resolution instead of 4K on their monitors because they don't have the HW to run all these games. PC could have a timed exclusivity on new PS5 titles and id still not switch to a PC due to monetary entrance level and the fact i just want to plug n play and not brainstorm does my card support the shaders presented in this game and is my CPU powerful enough to have shadows on HIGH.
How so? Really?
If you main PC, and only buy a Playstation down the road for exclusives....why in the hell would you buy said Playstation if said exclusives will eventually hit PC? You wouldn't. Which is what this guy is saying, and I'm sure there are quite a few people that do exactly that.
 

coffinbirth

Member
You wouldn't go Waffle House to get flapjacks. I know it's a tough nut for you to crack but Waffle House sells waffles.

And as inane as it was, I think everyone understands the point you were making, Matt. If you can't understand the obvious fallacies with the argument, you should be less concerned other's reading comprehension and maybe look into some self improvement. I can recommend some books if you'd like.
That's. The. Joke.
There are no fallacies in what he was saying. He has no reason to buy Playstation consoles if their exclusives are coming to PC. Now apply that to people in general....there might be a few that do the same, lol.
But I know, reading is just so fucking hard to do.
 

buenoblue

Member
This article makes zero sense. I haven't seen this mentioned but surely this will come to ps5 too? All 5 games in 4k 60? Would sell great on ps5. I'd maybe pick that up.
 

bender

What time is it?
That's. The. Joke.
There are no fallacies in what he was saying. He has no reason to buy Playstation consoles if their exclusives are coming to PC. Now apply that to people in general....there might be a few that do the same, lol.
But I know, reading is just so fucking hard to do.

You. Can't. Tell. A. Joke.

Not any better than you can use logic or think two steps down the line should this become an issue for Sony. How droll.
 

Shmunter

Member
Its not about pc gamers. Its about Playstation owners. Anyone seriously considering a Ps5 wouldn't be swayed because of this game of all others imo.

Now you tell me UC 5 and other new games are releasing day and date or even just a year after and I could see it swaying pc owners away from buying a Ps5.
I agree, PS4 owner will just continue onto PS5 at some point. It is acquiring the fence sitters on PC platforms that this impacts, as per article.
 

Shmunter

Member
Do it tho'?

If games are released a year or two later on PC, the console owners who waited that long to buy the games, probably buys them secondhand or waiting for a major discount = not the supporting type.
Secondly, consoles are extreme value for money and the PCMR users are few in the grand scale - but they (obviously) has money to buy new games.
Sony doesn't give a fuck about consumers who doesn't want to consume. Their focus is first year sales - everything else is just icing on the cake - PC sales is the cherry on top.
The message to PC gamers is - you don't need a Sony console if you don't need to play our games day 1. The rest of the decision making and all the cost/benefit etc. is in the PC gamers hands.

Sony is still very much about selling their console, it promotes secondary sales in peripherals, subscriptions (e.g. PSN), and sales from the ps store 1st and 3rd party.
 

zkorejo

Member
This article would have made more sense if the upcoming God of War was coming to PC same day as ps5.

Uncharted is not a ps5 system seller by any means. Seems like the writer is low-key mad that uncharted is coming to PC and it's his way of throwing a fit about it.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
His concern is that Sony will start doing day one releases, I guess. With their purchase of Nixxes, who knows how that's going to play out.

I doubt I would have bought a PS5 if that's their goal.
Think how many people will not buy ps5 and learn the pain and suffering of pc gaming instead. Only for 1999usd. Maybe with a Gpu!
 

TheAssist

Member
How so? Really?
If you main PC, and only buy a Playstation down the road for exclusives....why in the hell would you buy said Playstation if said exclusives will eventually hit PC? You wouldn't. Which is what this guy is saying, and I'm sure there are quite a few people that do exactly that.

You might be right about "quite a few". But there is probably quite a few more people who would have never bought a console in the first place and will now buy these games and thus making Sony more money overall.

Sony is not a hardware company anymore. Their annuals show that they are a software and services company and for that you dont necessarily need to make hardware. Sure, its better to control the platform, but we dont know were console gaming is heading with cloud gaming approaching sooner rather than later and mobile becoming bigger and bigger. Sony can not grow their gaming business if they stay at the console level only.
The overall number of (stationary home) console sales (all platforms) has not significantly increased over the past decades. The PS2, GC and XBox have sold an overall amount of about 200 mil. So did the PS4 and XBox one. The reason Sony became more profitable is more software sales, cuts from selling 3rd party games on the PS Store (which might at some point come to PC, TV's, phones, refrigerators too) and services like PS plus. Not more console sales. The PS4 is still behind the PS2 in that regard, but still they made more money.

Clearly they are looking at ways to make more money and seemingly porting games to PC seems to make them more money for now. And eventually they will try to become platform agnostic and be a software and services company (in gaming at least) only. Sure you might get some benefits like ease of use when you play on a Bravia TV or something, but you can play their games everywhere, just like Xbox games.

People keep saying that consoles make them money, but I dont think the PS5 will make them that much money overall. Yes they might make a few bucks now with each console sold, but remember that they also spend hundreds of millions in R&D for that thing. Not making consoles after maybe the PS6 probably wont hurt them that much, since the console hardware side has super slim margins anyways.

All things considered: Sony will make consoles for as long as it makes them money. But they are also investing in a future were consoles might become more and more obsolete. This ways, Sony will have a plan, no matter where the industry is headed and thats a good thing for everyone who likes Sony and their games. Thats something fanboys should learn about companies.
 

sendit

Member
Wouldn't own a PS5 if it wasn't for their exclusives. Like I said before, once Sony starts releasing their exclusives on the PC (day 1), my need to own a PS5 ceases to exist.
 

DavidGzz

Member
If you mainly play on PC.. why would Sony really care?

That's the weird lack of logic to this idea that PC gaming is somehow going to destroy the Playstation "base"... you aren't really part of the "base" if you do the majority of your gaming on PC.

That's exactly it. Sony is chasing more money and the fanboys are getting jelly. That's what it boils down to. More money for Sony is a good thing for the fanboys in the long run, but they get possessive and I can see their point, even if it's selfish. I think it's a good thing for Sony to double dip so that they have more money to make blockbuster games.
 

The Shepard

Member
Release killzone on pc and then perhaps we can get a collection at 4k 60fps on ps5. As long as the uncharted collection gets a 4k 60fps patch on ps5 I see no problem with releasing games on pc, in fact I welcome it as long as we get some upgrades. I think every PlayStation game on pc so far has.
 
I hope PC only cats will try them. Uncharted 4 will look crazy on PC. Ps5 upgrade is needed now though.
ps5 upgrade? like ps4 owners or a ps5 pro? because that's not happening for at least 1.5-2 years at the rate things are going, maybe more. It would be an asinine business move to do so.
 
Release killzone on pc and then perhaps we can get a collection at 4k 60fps on ps5. As long as the uncharted collection gets a 4k 60fps patch on ps5 I see no problem with releasing games on pc, in fact I welcome it as long as we get some upgrades. I think every PlayStation game on pc so far has.

too bad some aren't getting the respect they deserve. Guerilla's very own Horizon is a highly unimpressive port. thank god my 3080 can brute force it into looking better than the ps5 version but still...there's a lot of work to be done before ps5 ports can be universally declared as successes.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Well keep in mind this is a thread about 5+ year old games coming to PS5 lol, not "no exclusives."

Not that the word "base" is that important; but I've owned every Sony console too.. including PSP/Vita.. (hell I have 2 Vitas).. I don't consider myself part of their "base" because I've been PC gaming as my primary way to game my entire life.

If I don't buy a Playstation, and instead buy the games I was going to buy on PC anyways (as many of us PC gamers only buy exclusives).. what exactly have they lost? A small store cut?

They have a lot more to gain from PC gamers... who weren't buying their consoles, but now will buy their games.

Hell some of us will double dip.. might even buy MORE of their games as we prefer PC for a reason.
Even worse it is a 5+ years old compilation of games which the most recent is around 10 years old.So why would I buy a ps5 if I just have to wait 10 years to play their games ...Well I know why I would since I'm not sure I will still be alive in 10 years for example.
But yeah the article make it seem like the game comes on PC day 1 when some of us have kid younger than the release date of the most recent game in this compilation.

EDIT: Whoops hadn't seen that the lost legacy was included, that's still a 4 years old game
 
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Akuji

Member
Curious to See a 750ti render lost legacy at 30fps at 1080p everyone told me the ps4 cant outmatch the 750 ti meaningfull when the gen started... :)
 
This article would have made more sense if the upcoming God of War was coming to PC same day as ps5.

Uncharted is not a ps5 system seller by any means. Seems like the writer is low-key mad that uncharted is coming to PC and it's his way of throwing a fit about it.
I don't think it's only about Uncharted, it's about Pc ports in general. If you know the games are coming at some point, why buying a PS5? Sony's games are mostly singleplayer and you don't miss anything if you play them 1-2 years later. The games don't get worse. Quite the contrary, you get patchet games (with more content) that run and look better. Also i guess he thinks it's just a matter of time till day1 releases or let's say 6-12 months timed exclusives.
 

cormack12

Gold Member
This article is another shit tier take. Let's look at the users own bio:

Matt (Twitter) is TechRadar's Senior Computing editor. Having written for a number of publications such as PC Plus, PC Format, T3 and Linux Format, there's no aspect of technology that Matt isn't passionate about, especially computing and PC gaming.

Hmmm, doesn't seem to have an obvious bias......

Seeing some of those set pieces powered by my RTX 3090-toting PC is extremely exciting.

On the other hand, my PC gaming backlog is so vast, I could happily play all the games I already own

Owning a 3090 with an enormous catalogue of games, and more contemporary titles to follow, and the OP is excited to reply Drakes Fortune on a 3090? Which will be the remastered version from the collection, with the same animations, same models, same clunkiness? But its in 4k at 120fps? K dude. Definitely worth the decade wait.

How big are those multiplayer communities going to be for uncharted 2-4? Granted you might not be interested in MP so there's that but arriving years late means any fun multiplayer is like to go the way of Tomb Raider 2013.


There’s also the fact that while a growing number of Sony games are coming to PC, not all of them are. So, I may still need to invest in a PS5 if a killer app comes along.

Realisation sets in on the stupidity of the article. If the guy was only ever buying a PS5 to replay the uncharted games then yeah it made sense. Otherwise burn it. And the author.

There is no guarantee that any game is going to arrive on PC and even less certainty about the timeframes. If you're a fan of Sony games and are impatient enough to buy a 3090 or want to be 'first in' that uncertainty means paying for a PS5 is loose change.

Otherwise we are back at is buying a console for a single game worth it (uncharted 5). And the answer is always no. To play one game on one platform is not worth the cost. Even if youre loaded, you might not feel the sting of it, but its still not worth it.
 

MilkyJoe

Member
Remember those fannies that chanted "there's no reason to buy an xbox if the games are on pc" I bet they're crying in the shower 😂
 
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