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The Coalition UE5 demo at GDC

Shmunter

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Lol you must still be little big mad since he schooled you in literally every single thread you ever approached him. Your posts seem to have a bunch of anguish and triggered in them. Bless your sensitive feelings. But he's gonna now, so no need for you to be publicly embarrassed over and over anymore. Cheers.
I understand your hurting now that your bigger and better compadre is gone. A wingman without his main is genuinely a sad spectacle.

But no need to include me in your pity bowl.
 
I understand your hurting now that your bigger and better compadre is gone. A wingman without his main is genuinely a sad spectacle.

But no need to include me in your pity bowl.
Orrrr, your excited that you now don't have to be shut down and laughed at, every single time you are wrong about something. I'd be mad too if I didn't know shit, and acting like I do, only to be publicly shown in front of everyone, that I don't know shit. That's literally your life story on GAF because of VFX. He schooled you better than any teacher could. Now you've been released of that shame, embarrassment, and guilt. Be free Shmunter Shmunter ! No more VFX living rent free in your little head of yours.


But this is off topic now, back to Coalition. Isn't there supposed to be a public showing of this now? Would like to see the tech demo. The one from back in the day with the meat cube was impressive for it's time.
 
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Shmunter

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Orrrr, your excited that you now don't have to be shut down and laughed at, every single time you are wrong about something. I'd be mad too if I didn't know shit, and acting like I do, only to be publicly shown in front of everyone, that I don't know shit. That's literally your life story on GAF because of VFX. He schooled you better than any teacher could. Now you've been released of that shame, embarrassment, and guilt. Be free Shmunter Shmunter ! No more VFX living rent free in your little head of yours.
Hang on, trying to give a shit about you or your bait......

Nope, didn't work
 

onesvenus

Member
This particular user had substandard knowledge yet claimed to know it all. Not everyone is a 12yo that is easily bamboozled by a self proclaimed expert. Indeed no one would give a shit if not for the unbridled narcissism.

You mean the guy who thought PC last gen was the best graphics we’d see on consoles this gen? The guy who claimed Horizon Zero Dawn on PC would look better than Horizon 2 on PS5?

He had no clue when it came to gaming.
If anybody on this forum did a comparison on Computer graphics knowledge between posters I'm sure he would have been far above most of us.

When someone who doesn't have real experience on a field feels he has more knowledge than someone who does, he is only believing their own biases.

Both this posts would fit really nice on the "why aren't devs in NeoGAF anymore" thread.

Good luck on this forum you are building where certified experts on a field leave due to fanboys.
 

Shmunter

Member
If anybody on this forum did a comparison on Computer graphics knowledge between posters I'm sure he would have been far above most of us.

When someone who doesn't have real experience on a field feels he has more knowledge than someone who does, he is only believing their own biases.

Both this posts would fit really nice on the "why aren't devs in NeoGAF anymore" thread.

Good luck on this forum you are building where certified experts on a field leave due to fanboys.
You'd think so. But in this case, nothing could be further from the truth
 

bitbydeath

Member
If anybody on this forum did a comparison on Computer graphics knowledge between posters I'm sure he would have been far above most of us.

When someone who doesn't have real experience on a field feels he has more knowledge than someone who does, he is only believing their own biases.

Both this posts would fit really nice on the "why aren't devs in NeoGAF anymore" thread.

Good luck on this forum you are building where certified experts on a field leave due to fanboys.
So you believe he was right and think say Forza Horizon 5 on XSX will look worse than Forza Horizon 4 on PC?
 
If anybody on this forum did a comparison on Computer graphics knowledge between posters I'm sure he would have been far above most of us.

When someone who doesn't have real experience on a field feels he has more knowledge than someone who does, he is only believing their own biases.

Both this posts would fit really nice on the "why aren't devs in NeoGAF anymore" thread.

Good luck on this forum you are building where certified experts on a field leave due to fanboys.
I can't love this post enough. It's cool that people with careers in gaming, graphics programmers, etc, care to spend time and discuss these things with the forum. So many people can get insight into what goes into games, hardware requirements, software advancements, etc.

Then you have these smooth brain fanboys that can't help themselves, and attempt to shit on people with more ridges and depth to their brains, it's unbelievable. They can't even have a 1 on 1 conversation with the likes on DF, VFX, whoever else left, etc, so they attack them instead. Completely off topic from what the topic was about. Similar to what you see by these same posters. Nothing at all to do with the topic at hand, but personal insults, etc.
 
I can't love this post enough. It's cool that people with careers in gaming, graphics programmers, etc, care to spend time and discuss these things with the forum. So many people can get insight into what goes into games, hardware requirements, software advancements, etc.

Then you have these smooth brain fanboys that can't help themselves, and attempt to shit on people with more ridges and depth to their brains, it's unbelievable. They can't even have a 1 on 1 conversation with the likes on DF, VFX, whoever else left, etc, so they attack them instead. Completely off topic from what the topic was about. Similar to what you see by these same posters. Nothing at all to do with the topic at hand, but personal insults, etc.

I feel weirdly aroused.
 

DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
I bet this ends up being like 1 minute long and everyone kicks off at how short and a let down it is. Just classic internet right now, everyone is so starved for any morsel of information and people are chomping at the bit to express their hatred for everything and anything :D. Proper amazing start to the generation I tell thee.
 

onesvenus

Member
You'd think so. But in this case, nothing could be further from the truth
Yeah, I'll gladly take your word for it. The word of someone who has been corrected lots of times on technical discussions but acts likes he-knows-all.

So you believe he was right and think say Forza Horizon 5 on XSX will look worse than Forza Horizon 4 on PC?
I don't. But I do understand where he was coming from: a game which fully caters to high-end PC will have much better graphics than either PS4 and XSX games.

The problem is that people throw art preferences to the mix (see when he was talking about Miles Morales SSS not being top notch) to discredit technical implementations which is completely wrong.
 
That’s not where he was coming from, he literally thought nothing will look better than PC from last gen.

He said a lot of stupid things that many overlooked.
Dudes worked on films that more ppl have seen than people that have played a game. CGI > games on fidelity. Or course a more powerful system will display in a higher Fidelity than a lowed power system, regardless of art style. Higher AF, MSAA, Ray Tracing, SSAO, etc. This isn't stupid, but facts. But if you guys wanna pm, feel free. Feel like this topic is off centered at this point.
 

Shmunter

Member
Yeah, I'll gladly take your word for it. The word of someone who has been corrected lots of times on technical discussions but acts likes he-knows-all.


I don't. But I do understand where he was coming from: a game which fully caters to high-end PC will have much better graphics than either PS4 and XSX games.

The problem is that people throw art preferences to the mix (see when he was talking about Miles Morales SSS not being top notch) to discredit technical implementations which is completely wrong.
Corrected when? by Don Vfx junior, the little ittybitty version of the original? Puhleese, you insult me and yourself with such blanket statements. Be better.
 

bitbydeath

Member
Dudes worked on films that more ppl have seen than people that have played a game. CGI > games on fidelity. Or course a more powerful system will display in a higher Fidelity than a lowed power system, regardless of art style. Higher AF, MSAA, Ray Tracing, SSAO, etc. This isn't stupid, but facts. But if you guys wanna pm, feel free. Feel like this topic is off centered at this point.
He should definitely know better if he worked in movies. A 720P movie looks better than a 4K game. None of that stuff matters which you mentioned, it’s mere lipstick on a pig.
 
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RaySoft

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No it doesnt. It’s just marketing bull crap.
How can it be marketing "bullcrap" when that says everything about their engine being able to cull "unneeded" geometry? The whole point with UE5 is to use master assets directly imported from e.i. maya. Depending on how close or far away you are to the assets it's rendering a "constant" ~20M polys (depending on target hardware) every time regardless of how much source triangles are in the scene. That's nanite.
 
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CuNi

Member
DonJuanSchlong DonJuanSchlong you need to disclose what relationship you have with vx. I never seen someone so invested in one person this much almost like a simp.

Because it also hurts me to see people in echo chambers like over at reeee just gang up on someone with more knowledge that keeps saying things they don't like to hear until he leaves gaf. Like what kind of message does this send?

People on this forum would love to have devs and people with technical knowledge on this forum yet gang up and bully away anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like.

Obviously not everything he said was correct but I'd like to see anyone of you being able to claim a 100% post correctness.
 
Why would they lie about that?
It's very controlled scene with loads of budget. That's why it's called tech demo. They are selling their tech. If was "marketing bullshit" no one would buy it.

That was the source material used, but that many are never actually on screen in real-time playable form at any point during the demo. It's far less source triangles on a moment to moment basis, and a significantly smaller visible amount in real-time on a scene to scene basis.
 

Three

Member
If anybody on this forum did a comparison on Computer graphics knowledge between posters I'm sure he would have been far above most of us.

When someone who doesn't have real experience on a field feels he has more knowledge than someone who does, he is only believing their own biases.

Both this posts would fit really nice on the "why aren't devs in NeoGAF anymore" thread.

Good luck on this forum you are building where certified experts on a field leave due to fanboys.
I have had several disagreements with the guy who was severely downplaying the idea and use of fast storage by talking about GPU power. He had good knowledge but I think a lot of the bad feelings towards him came from his tag and actually being incorrect about some of the points he was making while appealing to authority in conversations with his position. He was a decent guy though.

I'd like to know which paid shill he was defending and playing the victim though. Which thread did this happen in?
 
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CamHostage

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"Around" 10... 🕰️

(*The internet has had some weird hit today, a bunch of major sites went down, maybe that delayed their posting. Or, just, you know, they just really, really wanted this thread to continue?)

Hopefully they get it up before EA Play Live starts.
 
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SLB1904

Banned
People wonder why people from the industry aren't on Gaf, and yet here we have Jim Ryan himself lurking. Jim, when's VRR support and SSD expansion coming??
Hi concerned customer. Fortunately our games runs flawlessly thats why we don't see the need to add just yet because we are focusing on releasing the best games.
As for the ssd expansion we are working on it. In meantime you can enjoy kraken compression with our games.

Thank you

Jim Ryan Big Dick
 

Zathalus

Member
Hi concerned customer. Fortunately our games runs flawlessly thats why we don't see the need to add just yet because we are focusing on releasing the best games.
As for the ssd expansion we are working on it. In meantime you can enjoy kraken compression with our games.

Thank you

Jim Ryan Big Dick
Not all PS5 games run flawlessly. Returnal drops into the 40s at times. Even Ratchet and Clank in performance RT can occasionally drop to the low 50s.

Also, the PS5 has a number of third-party games that can benefit from it. Resident Evil Village, Devil May Cry 5, Valhalla, or almost all games that have a 120FPS mode.
 

CamHostage

Member
Maybe more like "Around 11"?

Different topic: Epic is doing an "Inside Unreal" livestream at 2PM EST / 11AM PST, it'll be focused on MetaSounds, so tune in for that if you need something UE in your life without Alpha Point yet.

TWITCH
YOUTUBE
 
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Kupfer

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We probably won't see the GDC video, but a polished one, so people won't be disappointed. At least that's what they think.
Must be an underwhelming clip.

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CamHostage

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Different topic: Epic is doing an "Inside Unreal" livestream at 2PM EST / 11AM PST, it'll be focused on MetaSounds, so tune in for that if you need something UE in your life without Alpha Point yet.

TWITCH
YOUTUBE

This started and is happening live now, if MetaSounds audio rendering technology sounds like a salve for the Alpha Point delay...



Unreal Engine 5 introduces MetaSounds, a new high-performance audio system that provides audio designers with complete control over Digital Signal Processing (DSP) graph generation for sound sources. We’re excited to have Aaron McLeran present our new audio features live, and we invite you to join us!

This event is introductory and for developers, but maybe they'll have something intriguing to check out about audio shaders and virtual space reverberation.

It will have demos, and the talk about MetaSounds will go beyond what is in the Early Access build.

(They were planning on doing some talk about Quartz, another audio feature which has been in UE4 and will be significant to UE5, but that segment got cut. Quartz is a accurate timing system for playing your sounds exactly when they come up in a UE blueprint.)
 
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We probably won't see the GDC video, but a polished one, so people won't be disappointed. At least that's what they think.
Must be an underwhelming clip.

EDIT:
Tweet was about "blablabla many moving parts, unforseen things, blabla video not before monday"

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Annoying
 

CamHostage

Member
We probably won't see the GDC video, but a polished one, so people won't be disappointed. At least that's what they think.

That would be nice.

I'm actually a little hopeful of that happening, that the released version will be a little more produced than just the flythough that was shown in the GDC presentation. That does happen sometimes, where a developer shows the conference room only a general bit so they can focus on their talk but they have something more full-fledged if it goes out to the public. (I kind of remember the Agnis Philosophy project was unveiled in slices and overviews like that before the full cut clip was shown?)

Not likely, but since it's a public display of what would have otherwise been a private conference event, it's possible Alpha Point has a full sequence not yet seen to show. That would be a good surprise.
 
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