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Amazons games: New World Deep Dive ( PC mmo )
- Thread starter Kenpachii
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Hari Seldon
Member
I wish they had the balls to stick to their original vision for the game instead of taking all the mouthbreather feedback and turning this into another wow clone on the PvE side. Tanks and Healers have no place in gaming anymore.
Kenpachii
Member
Main complain i get with mmo's, tank healer concept is what kills pve. Nobody wants to play them.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
East of Odessa
Neo Member
I had thought this game was dead like other Amazon game projects, kinda happy to see it still going, but the tone looks like it's all over the place.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Art direction is awful. So unimaginative and unappealing.
How do these billion-dollar companies end up green-lighting these games with such shitty art direction that's completely lacking in any kind of cohesive artistic vision?
This one just looks like a horrific visual mish-mash of incongruous ideas.
How do these billion-dollar companies end up green-lighting these games with such shitty art direction that's completely lacking in any kind of cohesive artistic vision?
This one just looks like a horrific visual mish-mash of incongruous ideas.
CloudNull
Banned
Server list for the beta. Myself and some friends will be rolling on Kur for the west coast. We agree that is the least appealing name and will hopefully have the least amount of a Queue.
Btw you can preorder the game, get access to close beta, and refund if you don’t like it. Anyone else on gaf playing this?
Btw you can preorder the game, get access to close beta, and refund if you don’t like it. Anyone else on gaf playing this?
GeorgPrime
Banned
So you play PVE DUngeon Raids without tankers and healers?
ManaByte
Member
This is the same bullshit "everybody gets a trophy because no one is special" mindset that killed Guild Wars.
Kenpachii
Member
Wow dungeons system is cancer the same goes for FF14.
straight up nobody wants to play support mate. the only people that play support are people that want to be more special and taken faster into groups otherwise they wouldn't even care.
I played mmo's before wow system was in place of a tank healer and 2-3 dps solutions. Every single mmo is crippled with this nonsence to the point a DPS will endlessly wait for a party if he's not carried by either friends or somebody in the guild that got to go out of his way to play that shitty class.
Hell its so bad in wow and other mmo's such as eso that people as dps just sign up as tank/healer and basically crippled the party entirely because they can't be bothered.
Tank healer concept is garbage and anybody that played a bit more mmo's knows this. Its a shit system wow pushed forwards that should never have been a thing because it cripples contrent.
The other problem wow introduced is the shit instance dungeons. the safe spaces that kills entire pvp out of a overworld. Dungeons shouldn't even be in instances to start with.
ManaByte
Member
It's been a staple of RPGs since D&D. It's not something WoW invented.
CloudNull
Banned
But there’s no classes. It’s all based on weapons. People can switch classes on the fly and technically roll 2 at the same time. I haven’t watched any of the end game content. Is it guaranteed that the holy trinity must be adhered to?
Also, anyone know what covenant they picking? I think I’m going marauders.
ManaByte
Member
I was going to go Covenant.
CloudNull
Banned
My first character roll I’m going Ice gauntlet and hammer. I assume hammer will still be shit but hammer gang for life. The combos were just to much fun and it was great for AoE.
Edit: actually I’m doing ice gauntlet and rapier. I figure best to try stuff I haven’t done before since everything wipes after the beta. It supposed to be a wicked build as well.
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BlueMagpie
Neo Member
Plenty of people prefer the support role in games for reasons other than you have stated.
ManaByte
Member
bender
What time is it?
CloudNull
Banned
I’ve been waiting for this game for years. I’ve had it preordered since they first allowed it over a year ago. I hope you enjoy the game.
I’ve played in the alphas/betas many times but haven’t been in any of the recent ones since last December. The devs have been incredible and I hate that they get such a bad wrap because they are under Amazon. I hope people give this a fair shake as I think it’s the best upcoming mmo on the market and has soooo much potential.
I hope they nailed the end game content and I just want to be the greatest lumberjack the world has seen lol.
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ManaByte
Member
It's not just that. The people who play the WoW JRPG mod are fiercely defensive of it.
demigod
Member
Yeah right buddy. WoW was your first mmo just admit it. EQ and FFXI both were before WoW and you needed a tank and healer. There’s a reason why WoW introduced instances, it’s so people don’t have to wait or fight over camps. Even EverQuest introduced instances before WoW came out.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Tanks and healers have a place, but MMO developers need to make them far more interesting. Imagine a healer that only gets mana to heal if they are dishing out damage as well in order to get mana. Or a tank that can do fat DPS if they take X amount of damage.
Basically they need to hybrid it a little more to make them more engaging.
This game I think will be a miss on release, but if they stick with it, then after updates and expansions it will reach a point of being really good like ESO is these days.
I'm going to skip beta and just go all in on release. Don't want to replay content honestly.
Basically they need to hybrid it a little more to make them more engaging.
This game I think will be a miss on release, but if they stick with it, then after updates and expansions it will reach a point of being really good like ESO is these days.
I'm going to skip beta and just go all in on release. Don't want to replay content honestly.
ManaByte
Member
That’s basically a Disc Priest in WoW.
Yeah I mean, beyond all this, healer and tank are well established archetypes in fantasy.
Anyway, I think this game is gonna fail, but that has nothing to do with it having the holy trinity. GW2 tried to do away with that and the game turned out horribly.
I think they biggest problem with tanks/healers is how most games handle them from a solo pov. Inside the dungeon/raids themselves they're not any more or less boring than a dps class.
ManaByte
Member
Well good thing there aren’t classes in this. It’s closer to UO/SWG than WoW or FFXIV.
TRAIN TO ZONE.
Not sure I should look at this I'm getting too old to get any kind of eq/daoc/wow addiction again.
ManaByte
Member
I had a macro set for Blackburrow trains that yelled “Train to zone! Run for it Marty!”
CloudNull
Banned
Pro hack for anyone playing. Get the life staff early in even if not planning on going mage. Pump a skill point into the dash. Keep the staff in inventory for long journeys. This is the fastest way to travel instead of running.
I hope some one else gets the KI license and does it justice but this game is going to be amazing. All the other Amazon games have failed and if this one does then it’s GG. With all the great talent working on this my hopes are high.
I hope some one else gets the KI license and does it justice but this game is going to be amazing. All the other Amazon games have failed and if this one does then it’s GG. With all the great talent working on this my hopes are high.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
It hurts.
TyphoonStruggle
Member
DPS healers have been done before in Vanguard and The Secret World. Healers in FFXIV are the best jobs because it’s a game of letting your tank get as low as possible without dying meanwhile you’re doing some DPS.
DPS tanks were in FFXI. Dual War/Nin tanks that swapped threat and Ninja main tanks (maybe sub job BlackMage for spell damage or sub job Ranger for tossing shurikens).
WoW is far from the only MMO on the market. A lot of you are just showing off your own ignorance.
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nightmare-slain
Member
can't be any worse than FFXIV so i'll give it a shot.
ManaByte
Member
New World: The Final Preview - IGN
CloudNull
Banned
They are very fluid on this. Originally they were going to have an in game shop with some XP boost stuff or unique skins like PoE but the community raged. They didn't want pay skins to take away from in game drops. They removed it completely and as of right now we don't know their monetization model. The devs know this game must succeed and they have been great at listening to the community. They could potentially bring this idea back but I doubt it.... or maybe bring it back after the first expansion.
I hope they monetization the housing cosmetics.
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demented waffle
Member
Gonna try this out with an open mind.
The combat needs stagger back. It needed adjusting, but getting rid of it was just stupid.
Looking forward to leveling up just mindlessly grinding and farming. No sarcasm, lol.
I'll try pvp more if they can adjust the stagger and put it back in.
This should do me at least 200 hours, so this is a safe bet for a cheap time killer at least.
The combat needs stagger back. It needed adjusting, but getting rid of it was just stupid.
Looking forward to leveling up just mindlessly grinding and farming. No sarcasm, lol.
I'll try pvp more if they can adjust the stagger and put it back in.
This should do me at least 200 hours, so this is a safe bet for a cheap time killer at least.