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FranXico

Member
I realize that they had to make the game in order to keep the license. But you honestly think they didn't get extra money to build the game on a 2nd platform?
They only got paid to make the game and are likely getting a cut from sales (edit: including MTX)

Gamepass money is paid up in advance and only goes to the publisher.

Two different things.
 
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Ship more PS5's Jim Ryan!

disappointed ice cube GIF
Here's hoping we can get more Xbox and PlayStation consoles in time for the holiday season.
 

S0ULZB0URNE

Member
You do know that even xbox one outsold ps4 a good amount of times in the US right? It even did it 3 months in a row after the release of xbox one s. I can't see xbox series consistently outselling ps5 when stock is readily available. A month here and there? Sure.

The ps brand is too big. It needs a major mistake like an $599 or xbox one reveal to truly move the needle in any real way. Any mistakes Sony have made so far are minor in comparison to those.
XSX is a way different beast than the XBO.
 

S0ULZB0URNE

Member
"Casuals dont buy xbox" that is too rich, coming from you buddy.

Get your horses of the last gen.

We are at the age, where both systems are getting their exclusives.

If anything, casuals know more than you. They aren't glued to a forum like you. They are in the real world.

And 1 advice. Put your phone down, close the page for this forum, and go outside. Because you will learn more.

We aren't in the past anymore. Kids have phone. Everyone has a a phone. Information gets spread fast. And if 1 thing I learned from people, is that they will go to a length, to save some money.

Gamepass will be a hit, due to these guys saving money. Netflix is 200m, because the value it posses.
I am not turning this into a VS debate.
You think what you want mr junior account. I stand by everything I said.
 
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kingfey

Banned
The Series S won't sell here full stop. It's an underpowered machine, 10GB RAM is rubbish in 2021, and nowhere near enough storage space. It's just seen as a nerfed console.

Also it's a digital only machine (although 75% of games are bought digitally anyway), so buying from stores is irrelevant. People are very used to buying hardware and software online.

And a lot of those first-party Xbox games just aren't major blockbusters - Prey, Dishonoured, Wolfenstein. Doom is quite popular, but even Halo and Gears don't sell what what they used to. Elder Scrolls will be big but won't be out for ages. Perfect Dark and Indiana Jones won't be out for a very long time. Sony just has them beat when it comes to IPs and their mindshare. And now they're stepping much more into the multiplayer arena with Factions, and the new IPs from Firewalk and Deviant Games. Very exciting, and we still have VR2 to look forward too aswell.
Then I guess, the switch wont sell in europe at all, because its a useless underpowered device. I mean, who wants a 720p device. Its not like this device has 7 games on top 20 npd sales.

and as for digital, 70% of PlayStation players are buying digital. I guess those people are minority according to you.

Your 2nd points makes you a clown. I suggest you just pipe down, what you are smoking. With those thoughts, its impossible to have thoughtful discussion, since you are smelling your arse, and making up shits.

People, take a look at this. Prime example of a fanboy, who smells his fart. He bashed Xbox games, and is now praising these new studios, which we havent even seen their games. He says HALO sucks, then hypes this unknown multiplayer game, which we have no idea what it is. How the hell do you type this shit.
Sony just has them beat when it comes to IPs and their mindshare. And now they're stepping much more into the multiplayer arena with Factions, and the new IPs from Firewalk and Deviant Games. Very exciting, and we still have VR2 to look forward too aswell.

Dude, just stop fanboying around. Its not healthy for you. You will just make a clown of yourself.
 
It's right. Sony isn't the publisher of the game.
MLB owns the IP. Sony is just the developer and to keep the license, they had to make the concession to develop the game on multiple platforms

The MLB The Show IP is co owned by Sony and MLB

Of course they're getting money from the Xbox version
 
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kingfey

Banned
The MLB The Show IP is co owned by Sony and MLB

Of course they're getting money from the Xbox version
He is missing out the agreements of making the game, then getting the split sales. People think, just because you make a game for a publisher, you arent seeing any money from the sales. Its the standard of the industry, for each party to get a cut from sales, and the payments for making the game.

In this case, Playstation is getting a cut, from any sale the game makes. Even if that game is sold on xbox. That is still a cut for sony.
 

kingfey

Banned
Thinking a non casual service will reach casuals on less popular platforms makes you smart eh?
Its not like we live in dark ages, where this device called a phone doesnt exist. and its not like, everyone doesnt a pc, which contains a windows. Yeah, the xbox is a tiny brand. So small, that it exist on any windows microsoft sells. And its not like, it wont be on that thing, that is called windows 11.

Keep dreaming about xbox being small.

Your first mistake, was saying people have no idea what gamepass is. You see, the thing that is called twitter. Then there is the youtube, where every gamer is talking about it. Then, there is reddit, which people talk about it. Then, there is that twitch, where people play fortnite on series S, which contains gamepass.

All that is info, which is available on your phone.

But i guess you live under a rock, for not knowing these things exist. I dont blame you though. When you are with your kind, its hard to know, what is happening outside.

Like I suggested you, close this forum, take a breath. And go a trip to the internet. You will see what casual world is. Hope this helps you.
 
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S0ULZB0URNE

Member
Its not like we live in dark ages, where this device called a phone doesnt exist. and its not like, everyone doesnt a pc, which contains a pc. Yeah, the xbox is a tiny brand. So small, that it exist on any windows microsoft sell. And its not like, it wont be on that thing, that is called windows 11.

Keep dreaming about xbox being small.

Your first mistake, was saying people have no idea what gamepass is. You see, the thing that is called twitter. Then there is the youtube, where every gamer is talking about it. Then, there is reddit, which people talk about it. Then, there is that twitch, where people play fortnite on series S, which contains gamepass.

All that is info, which is available on your phone.

But i guess you live under a rock, for not knowing these things exist. I dont blame you though. When you are with your kind, its hard to know, what is happening outside.

Like I suggested you, close this forum, take a breath. And go a trip to the internet. You will see what casual world is. Hope this helps you.
I'm going to let you continue to dig that hole.
 

Hezekiah

Banned
Then I guess, the switch wont sell in europe at all, because its a useless underpowered device. I mean, who wants a 720p device. Its not like this device has 7 games on top 20 npd sales.

and as for digital, 70% of PlayStation players are buying digital. I guess those people are minority according to you.

Your 2nd points makes you a clown. I suggest you just pipe down, what you are smoking. With those thoughts, its impossible to have thoughtful discussion, since you are smelling your arse, and making up shits.

People, take a look at this. Prime example of a fanboy, who smells his fart. He bashed Xbox games, and is now praising these new studios, which we havent even seen their games. He says HALO sucks, then hypes this unknown multiplayer game, which we have no idea what it is. How the hell do you type this shit.


Dude, just stop fanboying around. Its not healthy for you. You will just make a clown of yourself.
You sound awfully bitter when confronted with facts.

Calm it with the aggressive rhetoric or I can guarantee you won't last long round here.


P.S. I have no idea what your point around digital games is, you seem to be totally lost with a lack of awareness and comprehension. And no I never said Halo sucks, I said it's not as big as it used to be - and sales figures bare that out. Your astroturfing is unnecessary and very embarrassing.
 
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eNT1TY

Member
Man its so weird that what would normally just be considered the holiday re-sale mark up for a new console launch will persist into the following holiday season. Crazy times.
 

kingfey

Banned
You sound awfully bitter when confronted with facts.

Calm it with the aggressive rhetoric or I can guarantee you won't last long round here.


P.S. I have no idea what your point around digital games is, you seem to be totally lost with a lack of awareness and comprehension. And no I never said Halo sucks, I said it's not as big as it used to be - and sales figures bare that out. Your astroturfing is unnecessary and very embarrassing.
Look here. I just hate people who keep spouting nonsense. I have all the 4 brands. PC, XBOX, SWITCH, PLAYSTATION. I enjoy the 4 systems. each systems arent perfect. but they do the job, to make me enjoy games.

But when people like you comes around, and spouting these shits, it makes me pissed off. Because of you guys, we cant enjoy gaming. All you do is brag about your brand. Scream through the roof like some dumbass.

Its honestly annoying engaging with you fanboys. and fact that you ruin everything you guys join. Whether its playstation, xbox, pc, or switch, all you guys do is annoying us.

Halo MCC was top 10 in steam last week. Its still relevent, and people are buying it, despite the game being free on xbox gamepass, pc gamepass. How is that not relevant?

You talked about the series S being digital, I told you how 70% of playstation users buy digital games. Meaning, people are ok with digital console. This refutes your point, about how the series S wont sell well.
 
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XSX is a way different beast than the XBO.

That's not my point. My point is even the awful xbox one managed to temporarily outsell the mighty ps4 so of course xsx will outsell ps5 sometimes but it's never going to maintain that consistently enough to " overtake ps5 in us market" like you said.

Hell, even the og xbox outsold the beast that was ps2 a few times and we know how that turned out on the end. Do you really think by the end of the gen, the xsx would have sold more than ps5 in the us?
 

Hezekiah

Banned
Look here. I just hate people who keep spouting nonsense. I have all the 4 brands. PC, XBOX, SWITCH, PLAYSTATION. I enjoy the 4 systems. each systems arent perfect. but they do the job, to make me enjoy games.

But when people like you comes around, and spouting these shits, it makes me pissed off. Because of you guys, we cant enjoy gaming. All you do is brag about your brand. Scream through the roof like some dumbass.

Its honestly annoying engaging with you fanboys. and fact that you ruin everything you guys join. Whether its playstation, xbox, pc, or switch, all you guys do is annoying us.

Halo MCC was top 10 in steam last week. Its still relevent, and people are buying it, despite the game being free on xbox gamepass, pc gamepass. How is that not relevant?

You talked about the series S being digital, I told you how 70% of playstation users buy digital games. Meaning, people are ok with digital console. This refutes your point, about how the series S wont sell well.
Don't run around here calling people fanboys and clowns because they don't agree with you. I don't know if English is your first language but you come across as pretty and insecure.

Look at the sales of the Halo series - they have declined.

You were talking about giving people time to get used to going back to physical stores, and I pointed out that would have no bearing on sales of Series S which is available here. No idea what your point is, I don't think you have one.

I haven't ruined anything for you. I am a multiplatform gamer. All you've done is scream about how great Xbox is. Somebody gives you a different view and you start crying about it and criticising people like a big baby 😁.
 

kingfey

Banned
That's not my point. My point is even the awful xbox one managed to temporarily outsell the mighty ps4 so of course xsx will outsell ps5 sometimes but it's never going to maintain that consistently enough to " overtake ps5 in us market" like you said.

Hell, even the og xbox outsold the beast that was ps2 a few times and we know how that turned out on the end. Do you really think by the end of the gen, the xsx would have sold more than ps5 in the us?
It will not. Xbox so far has 2 weakness. 1 pc. 2nd xcloud.

Their Day1 games on pc is drastically impacting their console sales. The ones I am worried about is Starfield. That game is a pc game. Bethesda fans know it, their games are good on pc. The fact the game is on steam, will take significant players, who would otherwise bought xbox to play the game.

The 2nd biggest obstacle is Xcloud. Xcloud isnt big now. Its still on beta. Once it gets out of beta, expect it to eat some console sales. Especially as the internet gets stronger, and they fix the latency issues. The other major problem is Xcloud on old xbox consoles. How do you make these people buy new xbox, When they can play the new games, on their old xbox, using Xcloud.

PlayStation doesnt have these issues, so it has huge advantage.

But that doesnt mean xbox will lose. the 2 weakness will grant them more players. Xbox might not sell alot of consoles, but they will gain new players in to their ecosystems. In this regard, xbox will win the player base, While the PlayStation will win the hardware department.
 

S0ULZB0URNE

Member
That's not my point. My point is even the awful xbox one managed to temporarily outsell the mighty ps4 so of course xsx will outsell ps5 sometimes but it's never going to maintain that consistently enough to " overtake ps5 in us market" like you said.

Hell, even the og xbox outsold the beast that was ps2 a few times and we know how that turned out on the end. Do you really think by the end of the gen, the xsx would have sold more than ps5 in the us?
Xbox 360 smoked the PS3 in NA.
XBO which was handled terribly barely sold less in NA than the solid PS4.
Recent surveys claim the XB being more popular of a brand in NA than PS.

MS has done most things right with XSX and in many ways handled things better than Sony and it's PS5.
 

kingfey

Banned
Don't run around here calling people fanboys and clowns because they don't agree with you. I don't know if English is your first language but you come across as pretty and insecure.

Look at the sales of the Halo series - they have declined.

You were talking about giving people time to get used to going back to physical stores, and I pointed out that would have no bearing on sales of Series S which is available here. No idea what your point is, I don't think you have one.

I haven't ruined anything for you. I am a multiplatform gamer. All you've done is scream about how great Xbox is. Somebody gives you a different view and you start crying about it and criticising people like a big baby 😁.
No one is insecure here. Just annoyance from you guys. The fact that you arent picking up, how much shit you talk, is evident that you really dont care anything other than your favorite brand.

"Look at the sales of the Halo series - they have declined." Just after I told you, about it being on top 10 steam chart. You really dont care about anything. I told you, it chartedtop 10 on steam, but you ignored it.

Didnt you say the series S is available in your area? I interpreted that as a store sales, hence why i said no buys anything from the stores.

"I am a multiplatform gamer" That is a funny statement. This is your word "And a lot of those first-party Xbox games just aren't major blockbusters"



Are these not a blockbuster? or do you need to be only story driven game to be a blockbuster?

I dont have issues with you. If I went overboard, I apologize.
 
It will not. Xbox so far has 2 weakness. 1 pc. 2nd xcloud.

Their Day1 games on pc is drastically impacting their console sales. The ones I am worried about is Starfield. That game is a pc game. Bethesda fans know it, their games are good on pc. The fact the game is on steam, will take significant players, who would otherwise bought xbox to play the game.

The 2nd biggest obstacle is Xcloud. Xcloud isnt big now. Its still on beta. Once it gets out of beta, expect it to eat some console sales. Especially as the internet gets stronger, and they fix the latency issues. The other major problem is Xcloud on old xbox consoles. How do you make these people buy new xbox, When they can play the new games, on their old xbox, using Xcloud.

PlayStation doesnt have these issues, so it has huge advantage.

But that doesnt mean xbox will lose. the 2 weakness will grant them more players. Xbox might not sell alot of consoles, but they will gain new players in to their ecosystems. In this regard, xbox will win the player base, While the PlayStation will win the hardware department.

Your last sentence summed it up well. Both brands can be successful in their own way.1
Xbox 360 smoked the PS3 in NA.
XBO which was handled terribly barely sold less in NA than the solid PS4.
Recent surveys claim the XB being more popular of a brand in NA than PS.

MS has done most things right with XSX and in many ways handled things better than Sony and it's PS5.

Ok cool but how does any of this equate to xsx selling more than ps5 this gen? There is no $599 ps5 for them to pull off another 360. If your saying xbox could eventually in another generation reclaim the market than I could see your point but this generation is pretty delusional to think so. Ps5 probably already has a decent lead even in the US seeing as it one of the fasting selling consoles ever.
 

Hezekiah

Banned
No one is insecure here. Just annoyance from you guys. The fact that you arent picking up, how much shit you talk, is evident that you really dont care anything other than your favorite brand.

"Look at the sales of the Halo series - they have declined." Just after I told you, about it being on top 10 steam chart. You really dont care about anything. I told you, it chartedtop 10 on steam, but you ignored it.

Didnt you say the series S is available in your area? I interpreted that as a store sales, hence why i said no buys anything from the stores.

"I am a multiplatform gamer" That is a funny statement. This is your word "And a lot of those first-party Xbox games just aren't major blockbusters"



Are these not a blockbuster? or do you need to be only story driven game to be a blockbuster?

I dont have issues with you. If I went overboard, I apologize.
It's not difficult, Halo doesn't sell as much as it used to. It's 2021. Call of Duty and Battlefield are far bigger franchises.

The Series S is available on Amazon. It has been periodically for months now.

I have a PC. In fact I own Prey, Dishonoured and Wolfenstein games. But I'm not blinkered, and I know they are not big sellers. Sales of Gears are longer released. It's just a fact, these games aren't blockbusters.
 

kingfey

Banned
It's not difficult, Halo doesn't sell as much as it used to. It's 2021. Call of Duty and Battlefield are far bigger franchises.

The Series S is available on Amazon. It has been periodically for months now.

I have a PC. In fact I own Prey, Dishonoured and Wolfenstein games. But I'm not blinkered, and I know they are not big sellers. Sales of Gears are longer released. It's just a fact, these games aren't blockbusters.
I cant even find the series S. its literally impossible to get it. All you see is scalper prices. it means, you are seeing series S scalped version.

Have you checked your halo 5? It sold 9.5m on xbox alone. the console which has 51m at the end of its cycle. That is the same as spiderman sales on ps4. 20m/2=10m (116/2=58m console) if we make the ps4 same numbers as xbox.

People considered halo5 bad, yet it sold that much. I really dont get your logic.

If we use your logic, god of war sold 12m on ps4. With xbox/ps4 conversion, that means god of war sold 6m copy on a 58m console. Do you see your logic?

Gears5 ultimate edition is one gamepass. Do you really research what you talking about?

This is what i mean, spouting nonsense. You put figures out of your arse.

Sea of thieves still is selling alot on steam, and getting charted top 10 in steam. You see this list? That is a 2018 game, which are on gamepass. Same forza.
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 30 May 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 6 June 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 20 June 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 27 June 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 4 July 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 11 July 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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You keep proving my point, when i say fanboys talk crap. You could have done your research, make a valid argument, and try to score some points against me. Instead, you went for easy rambling route. I am here showing you data.


that is the sales of halo, on xbox, and mcc on steam. This not counting gamepass pc/xbox.

COD, Battlefield are 1-3 yearly releases on 3 machines. They arent halo. Despite halo being old, people chart the MCC on steam alot. Last mainline halo was halo5, and we dont have that game on steam. The moment they put the game on steam, expect it to chart top 10 for a while.

What do you have to refute these data?
 

e&e

Banned
Don't run around here calling people fanboys and clowns because they don't agree with you. I don't know if English is your first language but you come across as pretty and insecure.

Look at the sales of the Halo series - they have declined.

You were talking about giving people time to get used to going back to physical stores, and I pointed out that would have no bearing on sales of Series S which is available here. No idea what your point is, I don't think you have one.

I haven't ruined anything for you. I am a multiplatform gamer. All you've done is scream about how great Xbox is. Somebody gives you a different view and you start crying about it and criticising people like a big baby 😁.
I remember when Zelda sales were declining too and then the BOTW bomb dropped…
 
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Stuart360

Member
Again casuals don't usually buy Xbox nor know what gamepass is.

You can't be the Netflix of gaming if your service doesn't work on the most popular gaming devices.
Well with 50mil XB1 sales, 5+mil? Series sales, 23mil Gamepass subs, and rising by 3mil a quarter for the last year.
Xbox sure has a lot of hardcore gamers!.:messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Stuart360

Member
Steam alone will reach that number. Remember COD isnt on steam, and people already pre-ordered battlefield 2042. So halo infinite would have easy breeze.
10mil is a long shot. Maybe it will eventually get to 10mil on Steam but i think it will take a few years. Remember Halo wasnt really a thing on Steam until the MCC launched, and yes MCC has sold over 5mil on Steam, but 10mil IMO is still a big ask. Steam is a little different to console, due to the sheer number of games available. It def can get to 10mil, but it will take years.
 

kingfey

Banned
10mil is a long shot. Maybe it will eventually get to 10mil on Steam but i think it will take a few years. Remember Halo wasnt really a thing on Steam until the MCC launched, and yes MCC has sold over 5mil on Steam, but 10mil IMO is still a big ask. Steam is a little different to console, due to the sheer number of games available. It def can get to 10mil, but it will take years.
2 thing. Twitch, and youtube. How many twitch influencers will play halo? That is free viewership material for them. thus attract more people to play. just like among us.
 

Stuart360

Member
2 thing. Twitch, and youtube. How many twitch influencers will play halo? That is free viewership material for them. thus attract more people to play. just like among us.
What Microsoft should of done is release Halo 5 on Steam. Yes its many peoples worst Halo, but i think it would of helped with Infinites sales on Steam, at least short term.
 

MagnesG

Banned
I'm glad Xbox is picking up, lest we have another SonyGaf sales thread moments staying salty for the Switch. Keep it up Xbox folks :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I cant even find the series S. its literally impossible to get it. All you see is scalper prices. it means, you are seeing series S scalped version.

Have you checked your halo 5? It sold 9.5m on xbox alone. the console which has 51m at the end of its cycle. That is the same as spiderman sales on ps4. 20m/2=10m (116/2=58m console) if we make the ps4 same numbers as xbox.

People considered halo5 bad, yet it sold that much. I really dont get your logic.

If we use your logic, god of war sold 12m on ps4. With xbox/ps4 conversion, that means god of war sold 6m copy on a 58m console. Do you see your logic?

Gears5 ultimate edition is one gamepass. Do you really research what you talking about?

This is what i mean, spouting nonsense. You put figures out of your arse.

Sea of thieves still is selling alot on steam, and getting charted top 10 in steam. You see this list? That is a 2018 game, which are on gamepass. Same forza.
steamdb.info

Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 30 May 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 6 June 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 20 June 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 27 June 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 4 July 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers for the Week ending 11 July 2021

The top selling games on Steam by revenue for the week, updated every Sunday
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You keep proving my point, when i say fanboys talk crap. You could have done your research, make a valid argument, and try to score some points against me. Instead, you went for easy rambling route. I am here showing you data.


that is the sales of halo, on xbox, and mcc on steam. This not counting gamepass pc/xbox.

COD, Battlefield are 1-3 yearly releases on 3 machines. They arent halo. Despite halo being old, people chart the MCC on steam alot. Last mainline halo was halo5, and we dont have that game on steam. The moment they put the game on steam, expect it to chart top 10 for a while.

What do you have to refute these data?
Anyone know why FH4 shows up twice? Is one a deluxe edition?
 

elliot5

Member
Kinda weird to title the thread as Nintendo #1 when Xbox lead in $ sales, and $ sales is what every chart is based on. Units are important too, sure, but it's kinda burying the lede when Xbox lead in revenue and had their biggest month in its history.
 

TLZ

Banned
Waa fiican yahay. Akhbarka see waaye? Xaalda mafiicantahay?

Sorry if I wrote it bad. I left the country in 2008, since I was 12. Arabic and English ruined my mother language for me. Being long time, since I wrote something, using my mother's language.
I didn't understand any of that because I'm not Somali :D I had Somali friends when I was young and they always called each other Warya, and that's how we called them as well. Do you live in an Arab country?
 
MS making money regardless NPD or any other sales numbers. Same goes for Sony.


Xbox makes billions every year and thats what MS wants ultimately
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
This thread reminds me of the time Xbox was winning NPDs when the Xbox One S released and people were saying how Sony made a mistake because they didn't include a 4K BluRay player. lol
 
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