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[Lupingosei]

You show up in every sales thread trying to downplay it.

I always tell you to look up God of War, it was $17 - $25 dollars within the first 8 months of the games release.

Why downplay, it will not even sell half of the first part and in the end, it will not have a third of the userbase of the first one.

And of course:

The Last of Us Part II Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

Ghost of Tsushima Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

 

[MaxwellParrish]

These months Sony had a way higher percent of digital sales when compared to retail than Nintendo, so pretty likely whould be in the same position it is right now or would have increased maybe 1 position, but that's all.

I think you didn't notice that the NPD numbers already count the Digital copies sold for the Sony games, so the percent is irrelevant. Nintendo Is the biggest publisher to not communicate its digital sale and it's quite probable that, when added to the phisical, AC would find itself in One of the First positions in the chart

 

[Lupingosei]

also 20 off on collectors edition i dont think is the bomba you think it is

The collector's edition used to be 249. 119 was already half and they still have to discount it.

Usually, it goes like this

Ghost of Tsushima [Collector's Edition] Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

Not like this

The Last of Us Part II [Collector's Edition] Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

 

[Mr Moose]

Great game, Ghost of Tsushima was my GotY though.
Has a 5 month head start to Miles, might get overtaken.

 

[e&e]

No. Most sales were physical. Animal Crossing had sales for 2 months before the 12 month period. Thats the reason why its not higher on the list.

Oh the 12 month started when TLOU released…

 

[Beer Baelly]

So where is TLOU2 Remastered.

 

[Iced Arcade]

well deserved.


still hilarious how triggered and insecure people got over Abby having bigger arms than they do.

 

[SLB1904]

The collector's edition used to be 249. 119 was already half and they still have to discount it.

Usually, it goes like this

Ghost of Tsushima [Collector's Edition] Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

Not like this

The Last of Us Part II [Collector's Edition] Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

i dont know what are you trying to do? am i supposed to be mad because ghost is doing amazing? lol

 

[Rolla]

So what you're saying is that Playstation is competing with Playstation?

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Sony fanboys teasing another Sony fanboys.

That's a new thing.

Nah its “THE LAST OF US 2” sucks cause its “woke”, Days Gone is actually better Peps. Thats how you know they really gone off the deep end. The game could have been all multi-cultural trans characters with rainbow beams. Still better than Days Gone.

 

[kyliethicc]

So, TLOU 2 sold more in 12 months than Ghost in 11 and Miles in 7.

What a success. That is probably why just a few weeks ago you were getting TLOU 2 plus TLOU 1 plus Spiderman plus Horizon Zero Dawn for 50 bucks here. So much success.

And just as another clue.

The Last of Us Part II: Collector's Edition - PlayStation 4 - Deutsch, Französisch, Italienisch

PS4 LAST OF US PART II CE /M

www.mediamarkt.ch

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Oh the 12 month started when TLOU released…

Yes this 12 month period is the whole life time of TLOU2. First 2 months of Animal Crossing isnt accounted for. And the first two tend to be the best selling ones. They should have a 10 million lead on TLOU2. Spiderman MM should beat it by the end of the year too. Since its marketed as PS5 game, and its for a wider audience.

 

[Lupingosei]

Yes this 12 month period is the whole life time of TLOU2. First 2 months of Animal Crossing isnt accounted for. And the first two tend to be the best selling ones. They should have a 10 million lead on TLOU2. Spiderman MM should beat it by the end of the year too. Since its marketed as PS5 game, and its for a wider audience.

Without such arbitrary numbers, how else could you prove it is successful. So incredible successful, the most successful.

btw. Animal Crossing was released in March, so 10 days of March, the whole of April, and May are missing in the comparison. So almost the first 3 months.

 

[SLB1904]

Without such arbitrary numbers, how else could you prove it is successful. So incredible successful, the most successful.

btw. Animal Crossing was released in March, so 10 days of March, the whole of April and May and 19 days in June are missing in the comparison.

no one is comparing to animal crossing lol.

 

[DForce]

Why downplay, it will not even sell half of the first part and in the end, it will not have a third of the userbase of the first one.

And of course:

The Last of Us Part II Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

Ghost of Tsushima Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

The Last of Us sold 7.8 million copies in the first year. The Last of Us Part II has already surpassed that. The Last of Us also had the benefit of being bundled with the standard edition of the PlayStation 4 console.

The collector's edition used to be 249. 119 was already half and they still have to discount it.

Usually, it goes like this

Ghost of Tsushima [Collector's Edition] Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

Not like this

The Last of Us Part II [Collector's Edition] Prices Playstation 4 | Compare Loose, CIB & New Prices

www.pricecharting.com

The Last of Us Part II bundles are still selling while they're not even producing Ghost of Tsushima Collector editions (to my knowledge). Retailers are still taking pre-orders for The Last of Us Part II bundles and Sony is still making them.

The Last of Us Part II In Stock Tracker - NowInStock.net

Looking for The Last of Us Part II but having no luck? Maybe our FREE The Last of Us Part II In Stock Tracker can help!

www.nowinstock.net

As you can see, special editions and collectors editions are still being pre-ordered. Your logic is that since its marked down within the first year and half off, that means its a failure.

Did you know Assassins Creed was $30 months and it's one of the best selling games of the year? You ignored the price for God of War because it doesn't fit your narrative. lol


You have to let it go, man. lol

 

[Fake]

Nah its “THE LAST OF US 2” sucks cause its “woke”, Days Gone is actually better Peps. Thats how you know they really gone off the deep end. The game could have been all multi-cultural trans characters with rainbow beams. Still better than Days Gone.

TLOUS2 beat a load of games if you take a close look on the OP table, but looks like only beating Miles Morales and Ghost of Tsushima its what matters to OP, don't you think?

But nah, who cares. Sony vs Sony. Its not like OP is teasing anyone here, right?


Jez, I swear Sony fanboys are losing their brains every year.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

So, TLOU 2 sold more in 12 months than Ghost in 11 and Miles in 7.
What a success. That is probably why just a few weeks ago you were getting TLOU 2 plus TLOU 1 plus Spiderman plus Horizon Zero Dawn for 50 bucks here. So much success.

This isnt units. This is dollar amount. So if they were selling TLOU2 at 20$. They would have to sell 3 copies to tie one sale of Ghost at 60$. So everyone pointing out that they had TLOU2 on sale so it should be lower is putting cake on their face.

TLOU2 based Multiplayer might release this year. Sales will rise.

 

[Lupingosei]

The Last of Us sold 7.8 million copies in the first year. The Last of Us Part II has already surpassed that. The Last of Us also had the benefit of being bundled with the standard edition of the PlayStation 4 console.

No, it has not, there is not a single sales update on a number like that.

The Last of Us Part II bundles are still selling while they're not even producing Ghost of Tsushima Collector editions (to my knowledge). Retailers are still taking pre-orders for The Last of Us Part II bundles and Sony is still making them.

They have not even sold the initial stock of the Collectors Editions. Those discounts are still from the first shipment.

 

[THEAP99]

Great news

 

[Lupingosei]

This isnt units. This is dollar amount. So if they were selling TLOU2 at 20$. They would have to sell 3 copies to tie one sale of Ghost at 60$. So everyone pointing out that they had TLOU2 on sale so it should be lower is putting cake on their face.

TLOU2 based Multiplayer might release this year. Sales will rise.

Yeah sure.

The game will sell for under 20 dollars then. And Ghost will probably already have its first expansion.

 

[SLB1904]

TLOUS2 beat a load of games if you take a close look on the OP table, but looks like only beating Miles Morales and Ghost of Tsushima its what matters to OP, don't you think?

But nah, who cares. Sony vs Sony.


Jez, I swear Sony fanboys are losing their brains every year.

can you be a little more arrogant, i think you are being too subtle. people won't notice.

 

[Fake]

can you be a little more arrogant, i think you are being too subtle. people won't notice.

Say the guy on his last ban warning.

 

[LordCBH]

disappointing but expected.

 

[SLB1904]

Say the guy on his last ban warning.

nice comeback

edit: also weird to keep count my bans lol creepy

 

[e&e]

TLOUS2 beat a load of games if you take a close look on the OP table, but looks like only beating Miles Morales and Ghost of Tsushima its what matters to OP, don't you think?

But nah, who cares. Sony vs Sony. Its not like OP is teasing anyone here, right?


Jez, I swear Sony fanboys are losing their brains every year.

This is an interesting point actually. Is there any other company with fans that compare their games so rigorously? Kind of lend the idea that Sony makes so many games with similar frameworks that the fans can’t help themselves but to constantly compare!

 

[Captain Toad]

Why is this surprising? It won almost athe GOTY awards and was the sequel to a beloved game that also won almost all of the GOTY awards.

 

[Derktron]

Remember folks ........

 

[DForce]

No, it has not, there is not a single sales update on a number like that.


They have not even sold the initial stock of the Collectors Editions. Those discounts are still from the first shipment.

Player count was at 7.2 million back in November.

Ghost sold 6.5 million copies back in March and TLOU 2 is head in the US and Europe. Considering how TLOU 2 continues to chart in the US and how far back it is compared to TLOU 2, it surpassed 7.8 million months ago.

 

[Fake]

This is an interesting point actually. Is there any other company with fans that compare their games so rigorously? Kind of lend the idea that Sony makes so many games with similar frameworks that the fans can’t help themselves but to constantly compare!

TLOUS2 beat Animal Crossing, with IMO is a great feat, is not easy to be ahead of Nintendo games, but IDK why OP is not talking about that.

 

[Lupingosei]

Player count was at 7.2 million back in November.

Ghost sold 6.5 million copies back in March and TLOU 2 is head in the US and Europe. Considering how TLOU 2 continues to chart in the US and how far back it is compared to TLOU 2, it surpassed 7.8 million months ago.

Then why did Sony give a sales update on Ghost, but not on the Last of Us. If it was so successful it should have been in the news, just to own the haters.

But nothing, you create your own numbers and present them as facts.

 

[RoadHazard]

Is this supposed to be a surprise, or...? I always assumed TLOU2 sold very well, it's such a celebrated game. It's deserved too, amazing game.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

Yeah sure.

The game will sell for under 20 dollars then. And Ghost will probably already have its first expansion.

The TLOU2 could have been selling for 20, 30 40 dollars. The total revenue is still higher than Ghosts. So if TLOU2 was soooooooo heavily discountued as you say, it sold so many more copies than Ghost that it made up for the revenue per unit difference.

Without such arbitrary numbers, how else could you prove it is successful. So incredible successful, the most successful.

btw. Animal Crossing was released in March, so 10 days of March, the whole of April, and May are missing in the comparison. So almost the first 3 months.

yes yes yes

TLOUS2 beat a load of games if you take a close look on the OP table, but looks like only beating Miles Morales and Ghost of Tsushima its what matters to OP, don't you think?

But nah, who cares. Sony vs Sony. Its not like OP is teasing anyone here, right?


Jez, I swear Sony fanboys are losing their brains every year.

That does this have to do with sony fanboys. Its babies crying about The last of us 2, couldnt possibly be successful cause the game sucked so much. And they use Days Gone/Ghosts as their shields on what actual good games are.

 

[MaDBrute]

My house hold hated it and we bought 2 copies

Why did you hate it?
Loved the 1st one, they are both mediocre gameplay wise.

 

[Fake]

That does this have to do with sony fanboys. Its babies crying about The last of us 2, couldnt possibly be successful cause the game sucked so much.

So, are you saying 'they're baby cries so I'll be as well'?

And they use Days Gone/Ghosts as their shields on what actual good games are.

OMG.

 

[Mister Wolf]

How far off is part 2 from part 1 in sales?

 

[DForce]

Then why did Sony give a sales update on Ghost, but not on the Last of Us. If it was so successful it should have been in the news, just to own the haters.

But nothing, you create your own numbers and present them as facts.

Someone reported on GoT sales numbers and Sony put out a blog after it was reported by someone else. The second sales update was from an article about GoT movie after someone asked about it.

When 10 million sales are announced, you're going to come up with an excuse and try to downplay it again. lol

I don't need to create my own numbers. If GoT is at 6.5 million back in March, then TLOU 2 is clearly ahead in sales. You're trying to prove the game is a failure by showing price cuts, but I'm actually showing data to prove you wrong.

 

[Warnen]

Why did you hate it?
Loved the 1st one, they are both mediocre gameplay wise.

1st one left me feeling good, 2nd was depressing and miserable in already trying times. Also lots of plot holes

 

[EverydayBeast]

The last of us 2’s story is a service to apocalypse fans and honestly if you put the last of us 2 next to other games it’s just better.

 

[SLB1904]

nvm

 

[Neff]

Superb game. Even better than I was expecting it to be.

 

[Synless]

The term 'dollar sales' is misleading, because afaik they're still counting the number of copies sold and TLoU's prices started dropping pretty quickly after the premiere, definitely faster than Tsushima's (for both digital & retail copies).

Is this accurate? I ask because I waited for it to hit $30 and it was a long damn time (4-5 month I think) before that happened, I usually don’t miss sales for high profile games at half price.

 

[Matsuchezz]

It was hilarious and sad when people wished for the game to fail. Now they walk around butt hurt. Hating a game and the director was pure nonsense. Cry babies.

 

[MaDBrute]

1st one left me feeling good, 2nd was depressing and miserable in already trying times. Also lots of plot holes

It evoked emotion, thats a good thing. Shit feelings, but that was the goal.
Real life has few happy endings.

 

[Pallas]

While it’s no surprise that TLOU2 outsold a new IP in GoT, I’d argue the better game is GoT just from the atmosphere and setting alone. We really need more games like it setting in a realistic feudal Japan.

Edit: That’s not to say the former is in anyway a bad game.

 

[yurinka]

I think you didn't notice that the NPD numbers already count the Digital copies sold for the Sony games, so the percent is irrelevant. Nintendo Is the biggest publisher to not communicate its digital sale and it's quite probable that, when added to the phisical, AC would find itself in One of the First positions in the chart

We don't game game specific numbers but have both total retail and digital sales for Sony and Nintendo and Sony consoles and we know digital sales are a way smaller percentage on Nintendo's side. We also have quarterly AC sales so we know which weren't made in this period after June 2020. We also have Japanese AC retail sales. Then we also have to consider AC also had and is still having great sales in Europe. Extrapolating all that we know that AC digital sales for USA shouldn't be the many millions of copies sold needed to jump from top 7 to a top 1 in a 12 months NPD ranking.

Is this accurate? I ask because I waited for it to hit $30 and it was a long damn time (4-5 month I think) before that happened, I usually don’t miss sales for high profile games at half price.

Being higher in this 'dollar sales' ranking means that the game made more money on this period by selling copies. In the case that it was true that TLOU2 got discounted faster or sold cheaper than GoT, it would also mean that TLOU2 sold more units than GoT.

How far off is part 2 from part 1 in sales?

We don't know current TLOU2 sales. We don't know TLOU1 sales, or the ones it had at this point when launch aligned. So we can't compare.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

So, are you saying 'they're baby cries so I'll be as well'?
OMG.

What are you going on about. Im starting to feel like youre on
Lupingosei’s level.

 

[Warnen]

It evoked emotion, thats a good thing. Shit feelings, but that was the goal.
Real life has few happy endings.

To each there own, I’d rather have fun when playing a game. I’d rather have my heroes action make sense in context of the game not from having knowledge only the player would have.

it’s a well put together game, no doubt about that but not for me at all.

 

[Nester99]

Using different time scales to compare sales is seems like a waste of time/thread.

Unless your trying to push a narrative.

 

[MrA]

June 2020 to May 2021 - Total Dollar Sales in USA, Physical + Digital

#3 The Last of Us Part II - June 2020 to May 2021 (12 months)
#4 Spider man Miles Morales - November 2020 to May 2021 (7 months)
#5 Ghost of Tsushima - July 2020 to May 2021 (11 months)

The NPD group tracks the best selling games in the USA over the last 12 months. Meaning currently, we can see physical and digital dollar sales from June 2020 to May 2021. This covers the entire time all 3 big 1st party games from PlayStation have been on sale. We know Ghost sold over 6.5 million units, and since it ranks 3rd on this chart, we know all 3 games have sold at least 7-8 million units by now. A safe guess is Ghost of Tsushima has sold 7-8 million units, Spider-man Miles Morales has sold 8-9 million units, and The Last of Us Part II has sold 9-10 million units. So we now know The Last of Us Part II has been a big sales success for Sony. Also, interestingly, all 3 games have climbed higher since last month, showing strong sales momentum long after launch.

Miles Morales has been on sale for fewer months, but has benefited from being the major PS5 launch game. And it has since outsold Ghost of Tsushima. However, The Last of Us Part II has outsold Miles Morales so far, at least in terms of dollar sales. Miles Morales was a $50 game, not a $60 game, which makes its position here a bit more impressive. It would have had to sell more units (at a lower price) to overtake Ghost. If The Last of Us Part II and Miles Morales each sold the same number of units, at their full prices of $60 and $50 respectively, then The Last of Us Part II would rank higher in dollar sales. So there is a small possibility Miles Morales has outsold The Last of Us Part II in units, but thats also pretty unlikely. Many users will have paid less than $60 for The Last of Us Part II, making the price difference between it and Miles Morales basically a non-factor.

May 2021 NPD: Improving weather and pandemic conditions cannot slow U.S. game sales

The May 2021 NPD video game report reveals another strong month for sales on the back of new hardware and Resident Evil: Village.

venturebeat.com

ghosts of tsushima 6.5 million is world wide, not US only,
as far as moving up, that could easily just due to call of duty 2019 falling back, next month is the one that will be telling, if it still charts after losing the incredibly strong launch month it has excellent legs, if it falls off the charts then it depends on how strong the next game the 10th position game is and how far below 10 it fell. (2 pieces of data that we unfortunately will not see.

 

[Javthusiast]

Bet you won't see this schmuck, his geeks and fappers squad as well as Quarterpounder make a single vid on TLOU2s success. xD

Cause it goes against their narrative that everybody hated the game.