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UK weekly physical sales: 77% of sales of Metro Exodus Complete Edition were on PS5

Spidey Fan

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Console sales don’t matter, game sales don’t matter. We’ll be hearing this more and more as Xbox remains at the bottom of every conceivable metric besides a subscriber number they may or may not choose to share.
man, you people need to get a life. seriously. he gave you a good answer, and you answer by fanboying. man that plastic box has you like a manbaby.
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Jigsaah

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Not on gamepass anymore and when it was it was the base version.

If you have it on PC then there should be another SKU in your library which will be the enhanced edition - that's the new version with the ray traced lighting.
Yea I got the new version the day it came out on Steam. I got my copy from Humble Bundle though in May.
 
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we only have physical sales here. not digital. Subscription service boost players base of the game. they act as a demo. its like trying a car before you buy it. if you like it you buy it. if not, you dont buy it.

most people are gloomy about the service, not knowing those games stay for 1 year, and leave after that. and you have to be lucky for your favorite game to be on that service by that time it comes to these service. I am still pissed about kingdom heart. they left by the time, i was actually interested in the service.

in other new, those service wont make a dent on those games. people will buy them, just like how they buy old sony/xbox games, call of duty, the Witcher 3, skyrim, or whatever game you missed.

I don't understand why people would buy the game if they can play it with the subscription. I mean sure some people might want to support the devs but most won't pay extra to play a game they they already have access to.

It's kind of like Netflix. Most people will stream the content but few will buy physical/digital copy.

And when it comes to demos those are usually free.
 

Spidey Fan

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I don't understand why people would buy the game if they can play it with the subscription. I mean sure some people might want to support the devs but most won't pay extra to play a game they they already have access to.

It's kind of like Netflix. Most people will stream the content but few will buy physical/digital copy.

And when it comes to demos those are usually free.
people buy them. its just this site likes to mock these people, and crying that they dont buy games. I continue to buy games, despite having it on a different platform. why, because i like them, or they are just cheap, and i would like to build a library on that system.

As long as sales exist on both platform, people will continue to shill out their wallets. I bought cyberpunk from stadia promotion, and i bought it for gog, from a key seller website, since it had them 29.99$.
 
people buy them. its just this site likes to mock these people, and crying that they dont buy games. I continue to buy games, despite having it on a different platform. why, because i like them, or they are just cheap, and i would like to build a library on that system.

As long as sales exist on both platform, people will continue to shill out their wallets. I bought cyberpunk from stadia promotion, and i bought it for gog, from a key seller website, since it had them 29.99$.

Well a lot of games are not available on Gamepass which is why people buy them. Doesn't mean their purchase decision was influenced by gamepass itself.

The main reason why people subscribe to Gamepass is because it makes gaming cheaper for a lot of them. Not everyone is going to buy games that are available on the service. It's the main reason why a lot of games don't get released day one in it.

I will admit it's a good way for developers to have some extra income once their games stop selling.
 

Hezekiah

Banned
UK hates Xbox since the X1 e3 debacle. Their big market share is USA, Mexico (Gears of war is a big deal there).
Nah, I know plenty of people who like Xbox. In particular Halo, and Forza because racing games are still popular here.

The UK market is bigger than Mexico aswell which is what I'm referring to, not proportions.
 

Spidey Fan

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Well a lot of games are not available on Gamepass which is why people buy them. Doesn't mean their purchase decision was influenced by gamepass itself.

The main reason why people subscribe to Gamepass is because it makes gaming cheaper for a lot of them. Not everyone is going to buy games that are available on the service. It's the main reason why a lot of games don't get released day one in it.

I will admit it's a good way for developers to have some extra income once their games stop selling.
that is not the reason. the big reason is because there are alot of gamepass, people want to try. games that they arent normally going to buy it. for example, i never cared what kingdom heart was. but after playing it on psp, i got interested in. By the time, i found my interest, i learned the game left the service. so i bought it on ps4, since it was on sale.

Gamepass has day1 games. nobody here cares about those games honestly. they are AA games, which slot of people have no idea about it. and the service is still new. it was made in 2017. and recently had deals for day1 games, which most of them were announced this e3. 27 games day1, not counting those games which were announced in the past via twitter. and more will come. I am not gonna be surprised if another big title is coming to day1, considering they are doing some deals in the back, while we have no idea about. Like how outriders, and mlb got us off-guard.

2022-2023 is the real test for gamepass, if 3rd party are going to be released. especially that guardian of galaxy game, considering square completely lost sales on avengers.
 
i learned the game left the service.

I already mentioned people buying games that leave the service. My question is why your average consumer would pay for a game that they have access to on gamepass?

As for demos to try out games those already exist at no extra cost. It's up to developers to release them though.
 
Console sales don’t matter, game sales don’t matter. We’ll be hearing this more and more as Xbox remains at the bottom of every conceivable metric besides a subscriber number they may or may not choose to share.
I didn’t say either of those things. Console sales do matter (for now at least) and of course game sales matter - what doesn’t matter is a percentage of an unknown number of copies of boxed sales in the UK :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Be less desperate for signs your plastic box is ‘winning’ maybe?
 

Hezekiah

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I didn’t say either of those things. Console sales do matter (for now at least) and of course game sales matter - what doesn’t matter is a percentage of an unknown number of copies of boxed sales in the UK :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Be less desperate for signs your plastic box is ‘winning’ maybe?
Where has this myth come from that Xbox gamers buy all their digitally, and Playstation owners don't?

I think the point is that in Microsoft's second best market, the proportion of new third-party game sales don't appear to be representative to the number of Xbox consoles on the market, or even close.
 

Spidey Fan

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I already mentioned people buying games that leave the service. My question is why your average consumer would pay for a game that they have access to on gamepass?

As for demos to try out games those already exist at no extra cost. It's up to developers to release them though.
Its because of owning mentality, which is hard to get rid of. People have buying impulsive. I have it. Even though i dont play those games, I buy them when i see them on sale, or title is interesting. as long as that exist, people will continue to buy them. Same as how people buy movies online, go to theatre, or buy concert tickets, even though they can watch them on YouTube, or on sport channel.

Gamepass wont change anything. We will continue to buy games. That option wont go away. Its just that now we are selective about what we buy. before it was risky option. nowday, you can test them as demo, and buy them if they like it.

and as for your demo, not every game has it. and some games are different that regular game. for example, one piece seeker demo might be interesting, because you can play it as luffy in open world game. but once you play the real game, you will see the game is trash. I had to do a refund for that game. Gamepass just makes it so you dont make those mistakes.

One main thing gamepass has, people actively ignore it, is player base. Outriders is a new ip. Had tons of issue. Demo wasnt fun as people expected. and some were on the fence. once it hit gamepass, people talked about it alot. now people perspective about the demo changed. People enjoyed the game, and it got a cult follower, and huge player base. On other hand, we had Avengers. It got a laughable player base on steam, and the game decline, to the point it made a loss for square. Avengers was a power house name. that alone was enough to make people buy it, but it didnt. If it was on gamepass, it might have changed its perception. because more player base, means devs actively working on improving the game. less players means, devs dont want to bother with the game, or slowly updating it, since the product was deemed a failure.
 

Spidey Fan

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Usually the same people preaching how the service is profitable are also bragging how they've paid 1 dollar for the next 3 years or something. It's quite bizarre.
only few people paid for that. i only learned it from the forum. had no clue about the deal. and its too late, since i have the service until November. most people have no clue about it.
 
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Where has this myth come from that Xbox gamers buy all their digitally, and Playstation owners don't?

I think the point is that in Microsoft's second best market, the proportion of new third-party game sales don't appear to be representative to the number of Xbox consoles on the market, or even close.
I didn’t say that either :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Although it does seem that Xbox gamers are more open to a digital library, now that you mention it - only anecdotally though.
 

lh032

I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
I have been saying this for a long time, xbox owners is going for gamepass subscription and most of them will not buy physical/digital copies of the game.

Xbox = subscription service console
Playstation = Physical/digital console

And please dont tell me "but Phil said 30% of xbox owner bought a physical game thanks to gamepass", that doesnt mean anything, no figure was provided, just some percentage (as usual).
 

elliot5

Member
I have been saying this for a long time, xbox owners is going for gamepass subscription and most of them will not buy physical/digital copies of the game.

Xbox = subscription service console
Playstation = Physical/digital console

And please dont tell me "but Phil said 30% of xbox owner bought a physical game thanks to gamepass", that doesnt mean anything, no figure was provided, just some percentage (as usual).
Phil never said anything about game pass subs buying more physical games. I don't think Microsoft would even use those metrics because as far as I'm aware there's no proof they can point to that a disc inserted in the console was purchased uniquely. It could've been gifted, stolen, bought used, bought new, rented, etc. They are likely tracking the "GamePass subs are buying x more" metrics using their own storefront's digital sales.

Maybe there's a unique serial encoded in each disc that they can check off once some console reads it if the console is online, but even then that's not definitive unlike a digital store sale. Doesn't make sense to use it.
 

Spidey Fan

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I have been saying this for a long time, xbox owners is going for gamepass subscription and most of them will not buy physical/digital copies of the game.

Xbox = subscription service console
Playstation = Physical/digital console

And please dont tell me "but Phil said 30% of xbox owner bought a physical game thanks to gamepass", that doesnt mean anything, no figure was provided, just some percentage (as usual).
That is a huge misconception. I have both system, and i buy digital.

No one bothers with disc these days. These sale tracks dont even have number sales. And i will guarantee you that most people who buy these games, buys it digital.

Physical age is dying. Only those who scream about those physical disc buys it.

Its easy to have everything digital. i can download, and delete my games. For discs, they are waste of space. I dont have big cabinet like those disc collector. Its just too much storing those disc, and not using them when you are done.

I have around 30+ OG xbox discs, and i have no space to them in. I am using one of my clothes cabinet to store them. I dont want to do the same for the my ps4/x1s. even though used games are cheap, I dont want to bother carrying discs. Once you go digital, there is no coming back.
 

Kenpachii

Member
People pretending retail copy's are still relevant for game sales lul.

Not to forget the game is out on xbox for a while already, was on gamepass and is accessable on there new box through BC.

Like why would the game even remotely sell at all on the xbox or PC. I can't see this game selling on PC for example unless it was given away for free.
 

Three

Member
I'm not saying games sell more on Xbox but remember Metro Exodus has been available on GP for an entire year between June 2019 and June 2020. I assume a lot of people played it during that time (like I did actually, although I didn't find it that good). If you buy it on Xbox it's really because you want to play the re-release.

I could also say that UK + physical is less than 4% of the global market but everybody knows that already.
Metro Exodus was also available on PS Now up until November 2020 yet it still sold well on PS5.
 
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Spidey Fan

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Metro Exodus was also available on PS Now up until November 2020 yet it still sold well on PS5.
at what level? 100k or 10m? Because this is strictly at physical level, and not presenting hard numbers, creates a bias. Plus the game was on gamepass for entire year. It come out in 2019, and most people in these platform already bought them.


that is for the steam edition. I can buy it now, that cheap. But i am not interested in that series, so its a pass for me.

From this data, people will assume pc guys dont buy the game. While in reality pc guys are all digital.

In a sense, these data are useless, and only used for console wars. same as how there is japan sales here. While i am usa guy, these lists dont represent me. same for the uk.

And remember again, this is a 2019 game. Not 2021 game.
 

Three

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at what level? 100k or 10m? Because this is strictly at physical level, and not presenting hard numbers, creates a bias. Plus the game was on gamepass for entire year. It come out in 2019, and most people in these platform already bought them.


that is for the steam edition. I can buy it now, that cheap. But i am not interested in that series, so its a pass for me.

From this data, people will assume pc guys dont buy the game. While in reality pc guys are all digital.

In a sense, these data are useless, and only used for console wars. same as how there is japan sales here. While i am usa guy, these lists dont represent me. same for the uk.

And remember again, this is a 2019 game. Not 2021 game.
At the level that is 77% of sales on a single platform. Unless you can show me some physical to digital discrepancy for platforms like the xbox and playstation there is no point of going down this road. Digital and physical usually align in terms of platforms.

Everything you are saying would apply to the playstation version of the game. It was released on PS4 so "most people in these platform already bought them" , it was on PS Now till the end of 2020, and the old version could be bought for something like £13 digital on the PS store. Despite all that still 77% of Metro Exodus Complete edition UK retail sales were on PS5.
 
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e&e

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Literally Concern: The Thread lmfao! Are we really worried about Metro Xbox and what it means for MS?
At the level that is 77% of sales on a single platform. Unless you can show me some physical to digital discrepancy for platforms like the xbox and playstation there is no point of going down this road. Digital and physical usually align in terms of platforms.

Everything you are saying would apply to the playstation version of the game. It was released on PS4 so "most people in these platform already bought them" , it was on PS Now till the end of 2020, and the old version could be bought for something like £13 digital on the PS store. Despite all that still 77% of Metro Exodus Complete edition UK retail sales were on PS5.
Is this a serious post comparing PSNow to GamePass? Do you know the subscriber numbers? Until Sony takes PSNow seriously, no one will…😂
 
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Spidey Fan

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At the level that is 77% of sales on a single platform. Unless you can show me some physical to digital discrepancy for platforms like the xbox and playstation there is no point of going down this road. Digital and physical usually align in terms of platforms.

Everything you are saying would apply to the playstation version of the game. It was released on PS4 so "most people in these platform already bought them" , it was on PS Now till the end of 2020, and the old version could be bought for something like £13 digital on the PS store. Despite all that still 77% of Metro Exodus Complete edition UK retail sales were on PS5.
Again that 77% is useless. You need the data of numbers that is being sold. 77% to me is like selling 100 copies. 77 on Playstation, and 23 on xbox.

Digital sales are always higher than physicals, and that is fact. People tend to buy digital, compared to physical.

The game has been on gamepass for 1 year. That is after 1 year of releasing the game. By that time, most people on either platform bought the game.

The only ones buying these are the ones who have ps5, and saw a ps5 disc game. Went a head and bought them. Or those who might be interested in the series.

For the actual sale, it should have been in 2019, when the game launched. Because that is the perfect time for raw data. Nobody has the game. But right now, everyone has it. And just like I said, only those who are new, or saw a ps5/xsx logo bought the game.
 

Three

Member
Would you say that PS Now and Game pass have similar subscriber numbers?
No, but what's your point? If they were interested in the game in 2020 (where the sub numbers for gamepass were lower anyway ) why would they spend £35 on the game now when they could have spent £37 for a year of PS Now and played the game. That's the usual take, correct?

Are you saying gamepass reduces game sales? Agreed.
Are you saying PS users didn't have a method to play the old version of the game on a subscription?
What are you trying to say exactly?
 

onesvenus

Member
UK or WW?

In the UK? Are you serious?
I don't know how reliable gamesindustry.biz numbers are but they reported sales numbers for last year being PS5 450k and Xbox 310k.
That's PS5 having 60% of the installed base. That's the minimum sales gap we will see if it stays like that.

Assuming that Xbox gamers buy more digital games than Playstation ones, that the PS5 share will stay the same or get bigger, that those are numbers only for a week and that we don't know the absolute numbers, I don't see how this is surprising at all. It's obvious Gamepass is having an effect on sales numbers on Xbox but we can't know how much with a percentage and not with sales numbers
 

Three

Member
Again that 77% is useless. You need the data of numbers that is being sold. 77% to me is like selling 100 copies. 77 on Playstation, and 23 on xbox.

Digital sales are always higher than physicals, and that is fact. People tend to buy digital, compared to physical.

The game has been on gamepass for 1 year. That is after 1 year of releasing the game. By that time, most people on either platform bought the game.

The only ones buying these are the ones who have ps5, and saw a ps5 disc game. Went a head and bought them. Or those who might be interested in the series.

For the actual sale, it should have been in 2019, when the game launched. Because that is the perfect time for raw data. Nobody has the game. But right now, everyone has it. And just like I said, only those who are new, or saw a ps5/xsx logo bought the game.
As I said digital and physical are usually aligned for the platforms.

For example

PS
77k copies physical 154k digital

That would translate to for example

Xbox
33k copies physical 66k digital

Nothing suggests a discrepancy in digital to physical sales between these two specific platforms. There is data out there and it has been discussed in threads like this before.
 

Spidey Fan

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As I said digital and physical are usually aligned for the platforms.

For example

PS
77k copies physical 154k digital

That would translate to for example

Xbox
33k copies physical 66k digital

Nothing suggests a discrepancy in digital to physical sales between these two specific platforms. There is data out there and it has been discussed in threads like this before.
That isn't the correct data. As of now, digital to physical is like 80/20, and it will grow more in the future.

There are other factors, such as sales. While physical has used sales.

But the problem right now, is the game is past its prime sales. So only few individuals are interested in now.

(Need to sleep now, sorry if I dont answer you).
 

Three

Member
That isn't the correct data. As of now, digital to physical is like 80/20, and it will grow more in the future.

There are other factors, such as sales. While physical has used sales.

But the problem right now, is the game is past its prime sales. So only few individuals are interested in now.

(Need to sleep now, sorry if I dont answer you).
You don't seem to understand that the ratio doesnt matter.
If you want to increase the digital ratio:

PS
77k physical 231k digital

Xbox
33k physical 99k digital

What you need to understand is that this is a percentage and the percentage of digital to physical align for the two platforms.

Why would second hand sales matter? It would apply to the other platforms that have physical sales too.

It's past its prime sales. Ok but what is the relevance to the 77% of sales being on a single platform? Why wouldn't it have passed its prime on that platform too? You're making no sense.
 
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Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
I’m not sure the impact of both can be really compared in terms of people playing it. If it had been on PS+ I’d agree with you though.

Although interestingly it was added to PSNow right when the GP deal ended (so it’s more recent) and only for six months.
I think you're overthinking this. Games like Resident Evil and Hitman 3 also had similar splits, and neither of them was available on any of the available gaming subscriptions.
 

LastBattle

Member
I bought it from the Microsoft store. I don’t really buy physical games anymore. Just wait for a good sale and buy digital.
 

Fredrik

Member
I bought it from the Microsoft store. I don’t really buy physical games anymore. Just wait for a good sale and buy digital.
Yeah, you do people even buy physical copies anymore? Is it only to get them cheaper or for the art or what’s the deal?
I haven’t bought a physical game since they let me use external hdds, I honestly find physical discs incredibly annoying. You have to install the game anyway so it won’t solve the storage issue, the games aren’t finished on the disc so you don’t get the complete game for preservation, and most importantly you have to put in the physical game disc to play the installed game.
 

Renozokii

Member
it's going to get worse for 3rd party publishers on xbox unless MS pay them to release on gamepass

might make it even easier for Sony to get more exclusives
Go first for a year on PlayStation. If Microsoft cuts a check for gamepass than drop it on there, if not why bother, games gonna sell like shit anyway.
 
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