MvCSpiderman
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No it's doesn't, break from releases for the generation is the point.
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Should Xbox take a break from Halo, Gears, and Forza(Motorsport) this new generation?
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Kagey K
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My point is it already took a big break. You keep saying there were so many releases on XB1 but ignore the fact that they came early in the gen and it has already took a long hiatus.
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MvCSpiderman
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Your point doesn't match the clear thread title. Why are you trying to make this a debate?
Kagey K
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Here let me help match your thread title then.
No they should not take a break this gen, Halo is just coming off a long break from the second half of last gen. If they continue to release at the same pace as on Xb1 we won’t see another mainline fps Halo for 5 years anyway.
Same with Forza Motorsport.
Better?
Microsoft has platform/GaaS/franchise studios which makes sense given their business model. I have no qualms with it.
That being said, I would love for 343i and The Coalition to get the Playground treatment and be able to have a team working on either new IP or new gameplay experiences. Like how Insomniac has the R&C studio while being able to work on other stuff previously, and now a Spider-Man studio for the time being.
343i should look to make new Halo experiences like they did with Halo Wars+CA/Ensemble or maybe a more Dead Spacey Flood game.
The Coalition could make any new IP and I'm sure it'd be tight, but I welcome new experiences like Gears Tactics, too under the franchise.
In happy to see Playground branch off from Horizon and into Fable even if it's just a reboot. I don't think any existing franchises need a break, but I want to see growth at the studios for secondary teams making new stuff outside their tent pole games.
That being said, I would love for 343i and The Coalition to get the Playground treatment and be able to have a team working on either new IP or new gameplay experiences. Like how Insomniac has the R&C studio while being able to work on other stuff previously, and now a Spider-Man studio for the time being.
343i should look to make new Halo experiences like they did with Halo Wars+CA/Ensemble or maybe a more Dead Spacey Flood game.
The Coalition could make any new IP and I'm sure it'd be tight, but I welcome new experiences like Gears Tactics, too under the franchise.
In happy to see Playground branch off from Horizon and into Fable even if it's just a reboot. I don't think any existing franchises need a break, but I want to see growth at the studios for secondary teams making new stuff outside their tent pole games.
MvCSpiderman
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If the thread title is too much for you don't post. The point I'm making in the title and body are crystal clear.
SenjutsuSage
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Should Sony take a break from Ratchet, Spider-Man, Horizon, God of War, Last of us or Uncharted?
Hell no I say. Keep making games that people want. Halo is a franchise that should never go anywhere. I can't get enough of that story universe and the Master Chief, and all the extended fiction and mystery surrounding the forerunners.
I'm willing to play Halo games into my damn 60s, 70s and 80s. Gears I don't have that strong a connection to really. Forza are amazing games. Why stop making them?
Hell no I say. Keep making games that people want. Halo is a franchise that should never go anywhere. I can't get enough of that story universe and the Master Chief, and all the extended fiction and mystery surrounding the forerunners.
I'm willing to play Halo games into my damn 60s, 70s and 80s. Gears I don't have that strong a connection to really. Forza are amazing games. Why stop making them?
Captain Toad
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Personally, yes, as I don't care about those three franchises.
Realistically, no. That would be stupid, as those are the biggest games associated with Xbox.
Personally, I'd rather they focus on stuff like Ori, Lost Odyssey or Tunic. That stuff is more niche though unfortunately (for people like me).
Realistically, no. That would be stupid, as those are the biggest games associated with Xbox.
Personally, I'd rather they focus on stuff like Ori, Lost Odyssey or Tunic. That stuff is more niche though unfortunately (for people like me).
MvCSpiderman
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They already did.
Bitmap Frogs
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Halo and Gears are overplayed as fuck.
Forza however? They need to put 343 and whoever makes Gears into pumping more of these. Forza: The Ring? Yes please. Forza: War Planet edition? I'm reserving the fuck out of that one.
Forza however? They need to put 343 and whoever makes Gears into pumping more of these. Forza: The Ring? Yes please. Forza: War Planet edition? I'm reserving the fuck out of that one.
Captain Toad
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It appears it is going to one game per generation now and more of a GaaS to support GamePass.
MvCSpiderman
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You mean those games that in some cases won't release until 4 or 5 years in?
Codes 208
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again, where are you getting these numbers?
main title released:
-halo 5
-halo Infinite
remasters:
-halo MCC
-halo wars DE (which shouldn’t even count because it’s not a standalone, just a bonus game for the LE of HW2)
spin-offs:
-halo wars 2
-halo Spartan assault
-halo Spartan strike
and of all of these, as mentioned before, the last title to release halo wars 2 back in 2017 and halo 5 released back in 2015 and that was the last major release. Halo infinite would actually suggest that a major release is overdue.
as for the semantics regarding whether or not this is milking let’s ask Nintendo. How many Mario games did the switch get alone?
there’s absolutely no reason why we can’t have both. Building up on other IP’s doesn’t mean they have to take away from what currently works. The moment they drop halo is the moment I drop Xbox altogether.Hmmmon one side, I assume the fans would want new things, on the other side those 3 IPs are heavy associated to Xbox.
the problem is, their new IPs didn’t got as much popularity as those 3 IPs…
So… we are in a dilemma.
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EDMIX
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Yup.
I feel Forza being a static IP makes sense to continue, Halo and Gears needs to really just rest and allow those teams to move on to different IP. Shit, if its not working out, let the team move the fuck on to new concepts and return if something actually makes sense for a sequel. MS stated they want to give those teams creative freedom, let them be free to move on if it isn't working out. I think those IP needed a break a long time ago and maybe didn't make sense to keep going.
I feel Forza being a static IP makes sense to continue, Halo and Gears needs to really just rest and allow those teams to move on to different IP. Shit, if its not working out, let the team move the fuck on to new concepts and return if something actually makes sense for a sequel. MS stated they want to give those teams creative freedom, let them be free to move on if it isn't working out. I think those IP needed a break a long time ago and maybe didn't make sense to keep going.
SenjutsuSage
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There is nothing else in the entire games industry like Halo, so why would they stop a franchise like that? Nothing else plays like or feels like it.
It’s truely a special kind of game. I feel like infinite is a farewell and hello at the same time to the franchise.
IYAOYAS2019
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No, they have plenty of studios to focus on other IP.
SenjutsuSage
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A god of war game has released every generation since the first.
Exactly!
01011001
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Halo 5 was the only new Halo game of the Xbox One generation
Naughty Dog released more new Uncharted games than 343i released new Halo games last gen...
we are also only at Halo 5 right now, after 20 years of the franchise existing. so it's not like they are releasing them one after the other, there's usually a bit of downtime inbetween.
Gears 6 will most likely not release that soon, not only because they are just starting to switch from UE4 to UE5, but also because The Coalition is working on a new IP besides Gears 6.
Forza Motorsport will most likely only release a single game this gen, which will be used as a basis for the whole generation and which will be updated with new content instead of releasing a new installment after it.
and Forza Horizon is getting better and better reviews as time goes on... so keep em coming
Naughty Dog released more new Uncharted games than 343i released new Halo games last gen...
we are also only at Halo 5 right now, after 20 years of the franchise existing. so it's not like they are releasing them one after the other, there's usually a bit of downtime inbetween.
Gears 6 will most likely not release that soon, not only because they are just starting to switch from UE4 to UE5, but also because The Coalition is working on a new IP besides Gears 6.
Forza Motorsport will most likely only release a single game this gen, which will be used as a basis for the whole generation and which will be updated with new content instead of releasing a new installment after it.
and Forza Horizon is getting better and better reviews as time goes on... so keep em coming
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Unknown Soldier
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MS has literally nothing other than Halo, Gears, and Forza. What exactly is OP expecting MS to do if they don't release those 3? Besides leave the gaming industry, obviously.
Kerotan
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Personally I'd prefer 2 games a gen.
Zeroing
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Doesn’t the comparison how 343i releasing less games, make it seem like the studio is not working well?
I dunno that’s the impression I get!
Kagey K
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You misquoted me. I didn’t say that. It was M MvCSpiderman that wrote out the quote you attributed to me.
I said
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01011001
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well given that I found Halo 5 to be more than lackluster... yeah... which is why I think Microsoft should give the IP to a new studio or drastically restructure 343i
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Tiamat2san
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Halo is my favourite FPS series…
Gears is my favourite TPS series
Forza is my favourite car racing series
(Both Horizon and classic games)
so I’d say keep them going.
Gears is my favourite TPS series
Forza is my favourite car racing series
(Both Horizon and classic games)
so I’d say keep them going.
Riky
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Halo Infinite is the first mainline Halo game for years and has a new engine.
Forza 8 will be the first game in years and has a new engine, Horizon doesn't count as it's a totally different gameplay experience.
Coalition have already said it will be years before the next Gears and it will then be on a new engine with Unreal 5.
So everything is fine , they should just stick to the schedule.
Forza 8 will be the first game in years and has a new engine, Horizon doesn't count as it's a totally different gameplay experience.
Coalition have already said it will be years before the next Gears and it will then be on a new engine with Unreal 5.
So everything is fine , they should just stick to the schedule.
Oddvintagechap
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It doesn’t make any kind of sense to stop making them. They sell and get the scores. Do they have the confidence to make something else?
RaZoR No1
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@OP
Halo Infinite is the only Halo game after Halo 5 for Xbox One / Series which is not a strategic game or part of the MCC
Gears 6 is still far away from a release.
Forza Motorsport (not Horizon) was released 2017...
First party car racing games are one of best ways to show the visual capabilities of the consoles.
I am even sad that they didnt release a Forza as a Xbox Series title (even a demo would have been fine)
Definitley no.
Thwy should continiue with the franchises.
Halo Infinite is the only Halo game after Halo 5 for Xbox One / Series which is not a strategic game or part of the MCC
Gears 6 is still far away from a release.
Forza Motorsport (not Horizon) was released 2017...
First party car racing games are one of best ways to show the visual capabilities of the consoles.
I am even sad that they didnt release a Forza as a Xbox Series title (even a demo would have been fine)
Definitley no.
Thwy should continiue with the franchises.
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alabtrosMyster
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Definitely, if they have no genuine "inspiration" from a studio on a product the product should not happen, or at the very least give them a chance to do something else. For all they know the next project may be even more succesful.
MvCSpiderman
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They took a break before the reboot.
MvCSpiderman
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Did you read the thread? The concern isn't about liking the games or not. That was never the issue
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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There hasn't been a Halo game for 6 years. Let me say that again, there hasn't been a Halo game for 6 years.
Chief has been in cryo for long enough. John wake up. I need you. Please. Wake up John. Chief!
Chief has been in cryo for long enough. John wake up. I need you. Please. Wake up John. Chief!
Pantz
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I like them, so I hope they keep making them. No concern here. Can't help you.
ResilientBanana
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The last Halo game was over 5 years ago. Fuck off.
yurinka
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What they need to do is to release more AAA games and more frequently, doesn't matter if some of them are from these IPs. I mean, just look at the difference between Halo Infinite and their previous AAA console game. Or between Halo and the next AAA they will release, we don't even know which year are they going to release them (I assume at least a couple will drop H2 2022).
They said they plan to release a game every 3 months, which (unless some are PC only or small 2nd party games like Battletoads) sounds great and another step on the right direction. They bought several great IPs, and now they have to make new games using them and also have to create new IPs.
It's ok for them to continue with Halo, Forza and Gears, but they needed to don't focus only on them and instead to keep trying it with other big IPs, that I think we'll start seeing them starting next year. Regarding Halo, Forza and Gears, I think that in addition to some big Zenimax IPs will turn into GaaS to match them with Game Pass, so they will have seasons, season passes, microtransactions and so on, which means the games will last for longer so we'll see maybe only one main game of these every generation or so.
They said they plan to release a game every 3 months, which (unless some are PC only or small 2nd party games like Battletoads) sounds great and another step on the right direction. They bought several great IPs, and now they have to make new games using them and also have to create new IPs.
It's ok for them to continue with Halo, Forza and Gears, but they needed to don't focus only on them and instead to keep trying it with other big IPs, that I think we'll start seeing them starting next year. Regarding Halo, Forza and Gears, I think that in addition to some big Zenimax IPs will turn into GaaS to match them with Game Pass, so they will have seasons, season passes, microtransactions and so on, which means the games will last for longer so we'll see maybe only one main game of these every generation or so.
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Its the only thing they will release first party exclusive wise within maybe a year launch....lol so hell no.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Might not be a good one though, I say its high time to take it out of 343's hands.
MvCSpiderman
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Didn't even try to read what you replied to, unfortunate.
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Deputy Moonman
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I don't count anything on mobile and Halo Wars is a completely different genre that only shares the Halo universe theme. The Master Chief Collection is one of the greatest Halo treasures of all time. Outside of that we have had Halo 5
since 2015.... Obama was still the president. It's been that long. When you have Nintendo spinning off Mario games left and right and games like Call of Duty every single year I don't think there is any reason for Microsoft to do away with 3 of their most popular franchises. I'd like to complain about the poll again!
since 2015.... Obama was still the president. It's been that long. When you have Nintendo spinning off Mario games left and right and games like Call of Duty every single year I don't think there is any reason for Microsoft to do away with 3 of their most popular franchises. I'd like to complain about the poll again!