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Xbox’s Phil Spencer criticises PlayStation’s PC strategy for being ‘late’ and ‘charging twice’

Krappadizzle

Gold Member
He's not wrong.

Is this him challenging Sony to make a store on the PC, to have yet another storefront to embarrass MS's?

Because they're games aren't free on Steam, just as Sony's.

Yeah, but you aren't being charged twice for them either. The same copy of GoW5 I bought for XbX works on PC, same for State of Decay 2 and Sea of Thieves. I haven't bought Day's Gone because I'm not gonna pay that much again for the same game I can wait for a sale.
 
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nah he isnt. He needs to pressure sony. This is a benefit for their users, which honestly needs to see outside of their box. The ability to have cross progression is heavenly teary. Playing on your pc, then xcloud, then xbox is phenomenal. i hope PlayStation people experience that. instead of the usual crap of our stuff is better, we dont need yours.

The clown should pressure Sony by giving their games for free on Steam then

Put up or shut up
 
I don’t really get the point of his statement. I usually don’t wade in on things like this, but it just seems like a mute statement.

The PC has always been Microsoft’s domain, and for them it makes absolute sense to think about Windows along with Xbox as a complete package. But for someone like Sony, who has often opted for exotic architecture in the past, this just hasn’t made sense. I can understand their strategy now, because I feel like Playstation has perhaps hit a saturation point. If you want to attract new customers, new things have to happen. Plus, the console architecture is much more ‘PC-like’ than generations gone by.

It’s really no different to what Square Enix has been doing or Nintendo has with mobile. Final Fantasy ports and slapping an outrageous price on an already dated game?

Phil saw an opportunity to get some cheap digs in I think. Bare in mind, Sony doesn’t want to cannibalise its own install base. I mean, surely it is better for them to purchasing these games through the Network rather than on someone else’s store with someone else’s fees? Hence, why it is obvious these games are coming much later in the cycle.

So meh really.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The clown should pressure Sony by giving their games for free on Steam then

Put up or shut up
Surprised Donald Trump GIF
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
He's not wrong.



Yeah, but you aren't being charged twice for them either. The same copy of GoW5 I bought for XbX works on PC, same for State of Decay 2 and Sea of Thieves. I haven't bought Day's Gone because I'm not gonna pay that much again for the same game I can't wait for a sale.
Let me explains this slowly.

MS.... charges.... for Steam games..... Sony.... charges..... for Steam games.

Sony doesn't have a PC storefront.... so.... refer back to the first sentence you quoted.
 

Termite

Member
Is this him challenging Sony to make a store on the PC, to have yet another storefront to embarrass MS's?

Because they're games aren't free on Steam, just as Sony's.
What the hell is with PC gamers pretending that if a game isn't on Steam, it's not on PC? Cult-like behaviour. Xbox studios games are all on PC.

Didn't he just spend 7.5 billion dollars to make people buy xbox hardware ?
No, because all those Bethesda games will be coming to PC. He spent that money to get people on Game Pass.
 
nah he isnt. He needs to pressure sony. This is a benefit for their users, which honestly needs to see outside of their box. The ability to have cross progression is heavenly teary. Playing on your pc, then xcloud, then xbox is phenomenal. i hope PlayStation people experience that. instead of the usual crap of our stuff is better, we dont need yours.

You’ve been here a week, 50 posts a day with most of them ‘gamepass is amazing’ and ‘Xbox is the best’

It’s exactly why I asked if you’re an astrosurfer
 

GHG

Member
nah he isnt. He needs to pressure sony. This is a benefit for their users, which honestly needs to see outside of their box. The ability to have cross progression is heavenly teary. Playing on your pc, then xcloud, then xbox is phenomenal. i hope PlayStation people experience that. instead of the usual crap of our stuff is better, we dont need yours.

The only reason they can do so is because they own the OS and have a store that is consistent across Xbox and Windows.

Since he's running his mouth so much why can't I play the Microsoft games I own via the Windows store on Steam?

Or is that not a valid step since it would no longer benefit them?

You guys fall for this mans crap every single time. Imagine valuing him talking shit and "pressuring" other companies more than you do him delivering a consistent stream of high quality games for you to play.
 

Dr Bass

Member
He's not wrong.



Yeah, but you aren't being charged twice for them either. The same copy of GoW5 I bought for XbX works on PC, same for State of Decay 2 and Sea of Thieves. I haven't bought Day's Gone because I'm not gonna pay that much again for the same game I can't wait for a sale.
Why would you buy a game twice anyway? If you buy it on PS, why would you buy it on PC and vice versa?

Phil's statements are completely disingenuous.

They need to start releasing games instead of talking constant garbage.
 

Snake29

RSI Employee of the Year
Maybe he should get mad on all those other publishers releasing games years later on PC.
 

Fredrik

Member
Lol where is good guy Phil? He has never been like this before. Maybe he understand that they have nothing to counter Horizon and Ratchet.
But he’s right of course. I’ve definitely double dipped.
MS needs to sync up Windows store and Steam licenses though. There is double dipping on the same platform right now.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The only reason they can do so is because they own the OS and have a store that is consistent across Xbox and Windows.

Since he's running his mouth so much why can't I play the Microsoft games I own via the Windows store on Steam?

Or is that not a valid step since it would no longer benefit them?

You guys fall for this mans crap every single time. Imagine valuing him talking shit and "pressuring" other companies more than you do him delivering a consistent stream of high quality games for you to play.
jada pinkett smith yes GIF by Robert E Blackmon
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
It's quite ironic that he talks about "toxicity" in gaming but then says shit like this while constantly propping up his gang of twitter warriors.

He's lucky Jim Ryan is a slimeball as well, if not Sony would wipe the floor with him in ways that would make the way they destroyed Mattrick look tame.
lol I took a screenshot of his ' I hate console warriors' interview and posted it in the now locked thread.

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It's like if Phil saw Jimbo getting all that bad press and said, nope I want the press!
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The only reason they can do so is because they own the OS and have a store that is consistent across Xbox and Windows.

I log into EGS w/ my PSN Id. Sony now owns part of EGS, could likely work out the idea of unlocking games via PSN Id integration.

Beyond that, Sony could create their own store/launcher.. which they might do some day. (although I suspect continuing to support Epic is more their future plans)

Whether Sony would actually do that is another question.
 

Spidey Fan

Banned
The only reason they can do so is because they own the OS and have a store that is consistent across Xbox and Windows.

Since he's running his mouth so much why can't I play the Microsoft games I own via the Windows store on Steam?

Or is that not a valid step since it would no longer benefit them?

You guys fall for this mans crap every single time. Imagine valuing him talking shit and "pressuring" other companies more than you do him delivering a consistent stream of high quality games for you to play.
steam=/=their store. plus their game is on steam.
 

Venom Snake

Member
Does he not understand the existence of business models other than those favored by Microsoft?..

Nah, that's not it. It's just an advertisement for their own brand. 🤷‍♀️
I mean, he can do that too, no problem with that.
 
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Spidey Fan

Banned
It's a sign of desperation when you start firing shots at your competitors.

Maybe he should focus his attention on releasing a single half decent exclusive for the XsX.
maybe sony should release gamepass. Xbox people are feasting with gamepass. This year, they got mlb and outriders for free. What did sony did for their users, charge them 70$.

see, i can use your words.

honestly, this is shit, that i have to stoop to your level.
 

Abriael_GN

RSI Employee of the Year
Incidentally, I know this is a concept that's difficult to understand for sensational websites that live off controversy and cherry-picking small quotes that may trigger the console warriors but...

There's a rather big difference between "criticizing PlayStation" and saying something that your platform has going for it, which people may like, and that other platforms don't have, which is what Spencer is actually doing. 🤔
 
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Uncle Phil getting a lot of people mad just by speaking the truth:
- it’s true the Sony ports are late ports;
- it’s true there is no cross buy or even cross progression.

Why not accept this is Sony’s strategy and move on?
He must be mad people are still willing to pay full price for PlayStation ports on PC so maybe Sony is making tons of money while maintaining that PS exclusive demand.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Man you guys never cease to amaze me with how in your feelings you get when MS speaks.

He literally is just saying their offering has an advantage over Sony, without mentioning their name.

That's it.. it's a common way to market your advantages over a competitor.. there is no "criticism" of Sony.
 
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