TheTechnician
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what is your performance so far ? can you say more about the system requirements being 64GB only because of compiling out of UE5 Editor or realy needed to run this Stuff?
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VFXVeteran
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100% agree man. It's really really annoying dude.
funking giblet
Member
Seeing as Nanite is checking what clusters to load, and traverse into based on sampling the pixel to be rasterised, it seems it would be difficult to trace into this structure from an angle not coming from the eye, hence the proxy structures being used.
DemonCleaner
Member
totally unfunded guestimate:
LumenGI is a progression of SVOGI using the RayBox testing in RT hardware to be accelerated.
i ve been trying to ask engine dudes around twitter if this was possible, without getting any answers. apperently it is.
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VFXVeteran
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I'm still at work so I can't play with it on my own. Give me a couple of days.
VFXVeteran
Banned
Forward rendering is absolutely needed - at least for transparency. Many games use a combo of both at the same time.
It's literally in Early Access.
CamHostage
Member
I haven't read a lot on Unity's next-gen improvements, but I'm sure they have tech somewhere in the works for the same micropolygon mesh and such, same as a lot of other companies also do.
On the flipside though, UE is going to keep challenging Unity in the mobile space, and improvements in ease of development and advanced technologies on mobile chipsets will make it enticing. Unity is said to do 2D nicely and it is inexpensive, but they have their work cut out for them to keep up.
MMachine99
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The amount of constant "PCMASTERRACEW WOOOWOWHOWHO" from like 2010-now has been deafeningly cringe, but when the tables turn even an inch suddenly its the victim game LMFAO.
Mister Wolf
Member
Looks like I will be buying an extra 32Gb of ram and a 3900x.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Nicely shows off the quixel assets.
Red_Driver85
Member
DonJuanSchlong
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None of the people in any of these threads have said the demo can't run on ps5. A big percent of the posters in these threads, have stated in the past that it couldn't run on Xbox or PC, or that it would only be able to do so with lowered quality. All of that was debunked. So I'm not sure where you get the "when tables turn" thing from. Majority of the times, it's the Sony warriors doubting anything outside of their console can do this, do that, etc.
nikolino840
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DemonCleaner
Member
the amount of quality of life features for developers in here is just freaking amazing.
having a robust realtime GI system been set as default, alone will save man-years of iteration time in a project. last gen support probably needs to be droped before that becomes a thing though.
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Lethal01
Member
You really couldn't be unbanned for 5 seconds without making a turning a thread into being about PC vs PS5 and claiming everyone was saying things that one or two guys told you, Yes, we all knew UE5 wasn't PS5 exclusive hardware.
I mean I knew it would happen eventually, but i was hoping that we could get a couple pages of people just enjoying what was shown before someone fucked it up.
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JerryinSoCal
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I was hoping they'd show something more than rocks this time, a game that only looked like that would be so boring visually, I need to see some trees, water, weather effects etc. this just looked kind of boring. I know it's not an actual game and the demo is really something more for devs than the general public but I thought the first one was more impressive.
Jon Neu
Banned
Seems we aren't frequenting the same forum, because in this forum the amount of Sony fans claiming that the UE5 demo couldn't run on PC or Xbox without compromises was MASSIVE.
GuinGuin
Banned
I just watched it. It has some destruction elements but the people saying it's a huge downgrade from the first demo are right. It doesn't look as good as Rift Apart. It doesn't even look as good as Demon's Souls.
Bernd Lauert
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Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Again, have we seen the same demo from last year? Have we seen the end part of the first demo running today? No we didn’t.
Why do xbox fans constantly feel uncomfortable when they see the demo? Last years demo was created for the PS5. This demo is completely different.
GuinGuin
Banned
It wasn't impressive though. Very simple geometry and it didn't even seem like the red light from it's head was reflecting off it's body as it should if they actually had ray tracing running.
CuNi
Member
You sure you're talking about GAF? Because if yes, then I must be stuck in Dark-Side GAF or something like that.
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
Just a quick search shows this
We already know it can run on XSeX and high end PC. Tim Sweeney said it himself that it will run awesome on both.
That's because Unreal Engine 5 is SCALABLE and it will scale down to slower I/O such as PC and XSeX.
Heck you probably can run the demo on a PS4 if you dial the details a lot lower.
These guys were all naysayers. And proven wrong rightfully so.
harmny
Banned
very simple geometry?
ethomaz
Banned
I’m confuse here but that TSR works in any PC GPU, no?Also:
AMD said: Temporal Super Resolution: TSR is a new technique of upscaling a lower resolution frame to maximize performance and visual fidelity. AMD has worked closely with Epic to optimize TSR features on Radeon™ powered systems. A standard feature of UE5, TSR is enabled for all GPUs and provides state-of-the-art upscaling not just on PC, but on PlayStation 5, and Xbox Series X/S, too.
All that glory according to the UE5 video was running at 4K with a budget of 1080p...
nVidia and DLSS 2.0...
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GuinGuin
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It was full of straight lines and 90° angles.
Bo_Hazem
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They said Radeon powered. Is it only AMD? Not sure.
Bernd Lauert
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Now that it runs on XSX and PC, it's not impressive anymore. Huge coincidence.
DonJuanSchlong
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I'm not a console fan at all. I'm a PC guy if it wasn't painfully obvious by now.
We haven't seen it, but not even a person with single digit IQ would listen to you,
Snake29
over the developers who created unreal engine 5. I'm pretty sure everyone would agree with the developers over some random GAF poster with zero credibility.
GuinGuin
Banned
Even if it did if it makes DLSS obsolete that's a big loss for Nvidia.
Balducci30
Member
This is crazy looking. Can’t wait to get some games that look this level
harmny
Banned
. i think i don't see a single straight line
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ethomaz
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Nope they said all GPUs on PC.
“A standard feature of UE5, TSR is enabled for all GPUs and provides state-of-the-art upscaling not just on PC”
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ethomaz
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How?
You can compared both buy it is clear DLSS 2.0 is several steps ahead of what Epic showed today.
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geordiemp
Member
Most people understood exactly what was meant, faster SSD lower RAM requirement. Exactly what the correalation is and how much remains to be seen.
And PC needs 64 GB RAM and an SSD.......
What did you think posters meant ?
Everybody also knows UE5 will run on a phone.
GuinGuin
Banned
yes look it's basically a cube
Compare it to some of the bosses in Demon's Souls and you will see its a very simple design. I don't blame them as they aren't going to incorporate it into a finished product.
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GuinGuin
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Because it would mean Nvidia lost a competitive advantage they have been touting for years. Being on equal footing isn't a good place to be if you were previously ahead. Good news for gamers everywhere though and that's what really matters.
ethomaz
Banned
But DLSS 2.0 is still way ahead what they showed today
harmny
Banned
the design is not the focus here lol. THE GEOMETRY is what they're demoing. lol are you serious?
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
I'm not a console fan at all. I'm a PC guy if it wasn't painfully obvious by now.
We haven't seen it, but not even a person with single digit IQ would listen to you,
Says the one nobody listens to. I pointed facts, You are scraping your last scraps of shit out of your ass
GuinGuin
Banned
But DLSS 2.0 is still way ahead what they showed today
Is it? How so?
Fredrik
Member
Can’t believe people are negative after seeing this...
I’m blown away, I want to jump in myself and make an Unreal hobby game! Only playing around with Unity right now (which is fun too though!), the possibilities here seems kinda insane tbh, and having this demo free to play around with is awesome
I’m blown away, I want to jump in myself and make an Unreal hobby game! Only playing around with Unity right now (which is fun too though!), the possibilities here seems kinda insane tbh, and having this demo free to play around with is awesome
assurdum
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More probably it's native 1080p. Check the part of the video about the resolution cost. They talk of the equivalent of native 1080p. It's very early.
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VFXVeteran
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Many many people assumed that the scene last year was maxing out the PS5's I/O system. Only real developers knew this was not the case. We had no idea what the data rate was or what was being streamed on-the-fly. As it turns out, it was more a marketing scheme for Sony and it worked.
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
Those are requirements to create a game in the engine. To run the demo only, doesn't require that much RAM. A random guy
Red_Driver85
posted running it on a live stream had a 3090 with high framerate, and he was running it on a HDD 
. Fucking Tim Sweeney had you and several others looking real foolish today. Of course marketing deals and PR will be out there, but it's easier to use common sense to realize Reality>>>>>Marketing PR. It's like believing in Santa Claus or that the Tooth fairy is real.
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