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[KyoZz]

The Apple lawyer is going after the fact that Itch.io has porn games on it despite Epic rejecting sexual games on the Epic Games Store

Itch was added to the Epic Games Store shortly before the trial.
Allison says Epic just hosts Itch, not the games themselves. These games are “so offensive we cannot speak about them here"
"There are many games on http://Itch.io, I won’t even read the names out loud, but they are both offensive and sexualized."

Judge is now trying to parse the process of getting from the EGS to “that other store could be downloaded which has all of that offensive material.”
In terms of providing access on mobile, Allison says “I don’t know that we would want to do that with Itch.io."

“Now that you know there are offensive and sexualized app on Itch.io, as the head of EGS, do you plan to do anything about that?”
Allison says he doesn’t know and that these apps are Itch.io’s apps, not EGS's


Itch.io statement:
This jam will take place from Saturday, May 8th to Saturday, June 12th because that's as long as this joke will be funny. Please remember to make sure all submissions are Truly Games, or in the words of Apple's lawyer:
"Games have a beginning and end, there’s challenges in place." Doing anything else would be unspeakable.

The Unspeakable Jam

A game jam from 2021-05-08 to 2021-06-12 hosted by worzalla. On May 7th, 2021, a legal representative of Apple said that games on itch.io were " so offensive we cannot speak about them [in a court of law]"... SO...

itch.io

This can potentially blow up in Epic's face because Epic has established the majority of Fortnite players are kids. Apple can argue Epic laid an easy path to porn accessible to children through Epic's client.

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[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Safari browser, not even once.

 

[reksveks]

Browsers say what? Discord? Reddit?

 

[Zeroing]

The “Think about the children” card.

It’s been used so many times through gaming history that still nobody realized that good parenting is, keeping an eye on what kids do and not letting them be unsupervised.

 

[Banjo64]

Did any of us actually wait until we were 18 to access porn?

 

[Captain Toad]

These guys really hate each other. I feel like these billion dollar corporations are taking this stuff personal now.

 

[Md Ray]

Wait. There are... porn games??

 

[ManaByte]

Safari browser, not even once.

/thread

 

[Doczu]

Wait. There are... porn games??

Yup, and you can find a few good ones. For free

 

[LordOfZiquizira]

Apple got'em

 

[01011001]

wait... aren't itch.io games playable in basically any browser? including ones you can use on iphone?

 

[ManaByte]

wait... aren't itch.io games playable in basically any browser? including ones you can use on iphone?

 

[Keihart]

Itch.io it's great, it's full of indie experimental stuff.
Fuck that lawyer, fuck him sideways.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

 

[llien]

This can potentially blow up in Epic's face because Epic has established the majority of Fortnite players are kids

I'm not sure I'm following, are you using "epic store" and "fortnight" interchangeably?

 

[llien]

billion dollar corporations

Are not equally filthy.
Like, not at all.

 

[Tams]

Itch.io it's great, it's full of indie experimental stuff.
Fuck that lawyer, fuck him sideways.

That's both offensive and sexualised!

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Literally, would rather let him see a pussy and man up a little. Not sure though if it's a he or a she, confused as fuck!

 

[llien]

What would be an example of a sexualized and offensive game on itch.io?

Asking for a friend.

 

[SweetShark]

What would be an example of a sexualized and offensive game on itch.io?

Asking for a friend.

Vanilla or another flavor?

 

[Kdad]

Wait. There are... porn games??

Yakuza is my porn.

 

[Jaguar Victory]

Now we just need to lawyers to break out the play history. Mr apple lawyer, according to your pornhub history we see here that you yourself have had quite the adventure...

 

[Virt McPolygon]

Literally, would rather let him see a pussy and man up a little. Not sure though if it's a he or a she, confused as fuck!

You sound oddly triggered by an image lmao

 

[Bo_Hazem]

You sound oddly triggered by an image lmao

Who's not, just watch the comment section on that ad, if not already turned off.

 

[Virt McPolygon]

Who's not, just watch the comment sections on that add, if not already turned off.

Haha fair enough. I honestly totally forgot about that ad. If I had seen the screen shot outside of this thread, I'd think it was from the new Ghostbusters movie.

 

[hemo memo]

Apple lawyers digging deep.

 

[IntentionalPun]

This thread got weird, fast.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Haha fair enough. I honestly totally forgot about that ad. If I had seen the screen shot outside of this thread, I'd think it was from the new Ghostbusters movie.

Yeah it made some buzz back then, lol. Here's the ad:





I was looking for good design device, between this and Huawei and Samsung's Tab. Settled on iPad Pro 2020 because of app support and expecting a proper Illustrator on it that turns hand drawings into graphs... Well, that Illustrator native app seems like the new Star Citizen.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

This thread got weird, fast.

Hey, be careful now on your hot takes about the weebs, we need you.

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Yeah it made some buzz back then, lol. Here's the ad:





I was looking for good design device, between this and Huawei and Samsung's Tab. Settled on iPad Pro 2020 because of app support and expecting a proper Illustrator on it that turns hand drawings into graphs... Well, that Illustrator native app seems like the new Star Citizen.

Wait, so that's you in the ad?! Is the illustrator app not that good? I thought it was pretty straight from what I've heard, but then again, I've never used it.

 

[LisaMariaMartin]

Sitting in front of a PC seems like a far easier path to porn.

 

[ManaByte]

Hey, be careful now on your hot takes about the weebs, we need you.

I think I know what forum pillow guy posts at.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Wait, so that's you in the ad?! Is the illustrator app not that good? I thought it was pretty straight from what I've heard, but then again, I've never used it.

Nah I got enough testosterone to not looks so . The Illustrator app right now is more like "Illustrator Go". Had to go for Affinity Designer for that reason (my wife). There were a promised, full version of Illustrator that uses AI to draw graphs from hand drawings, which was a major factor of choosing iPad 2020, along with the 120Hz for pen sync (before the new Tab S7+).

Timestamped





AFAIK, still didn't get released yet and you need to do it manually. Affinity Designer seems to be a more complete package so far on iPad Pro, I think.

 

[salamanderjuice]

Sitting in front of a PC seems like a far easier path to porn.

Even easier to just whip out your iPhone open Safari. Don't even need to be near the PC! Much more convenient.

 

[Doczu]

What would be an example of a sexualized and offensive game on itch.io?

Asking for a friend.

Check Aurelia.

 

[Duchess]

Check Aurelia.

For some reason I thought you were referring to the PS1 game Alundra!

 

[jakinov]

Isn't all the porn even easier to access using Safari? Wouldn't all Itch.io stuff be behind a payment system that should require users to have credit cards or other payments systems that often expect you to be >18. I feel like that's like saying cable companies or hotels are giving kids easy access to porn because they sell you options to porn.

 

[llien]

Vanilla or another flavor?

 

[DaGwaphics]

If this Apple lawyer stumbles onto pornhub all hell is going to break loose.

 

[Fredrik]

Did any of us actually wait until we were 18 to access porn?

I grew up with C64

 

[DonJuanSchlong]

Sitting in front of a PC seems like a far easier path to porn.

What about those who prefer to stand behind their PC instead?

 

[fersnake]

parents>phone to kids>kids go to web browser>free porn sites

parents>phone to kids>kids go twitch

parents>phone to kids>kids go instagram

why make it so difficult to go to find porn to a game platform and ask their parent to buy that porn game?

 

[godhandiscen]

Safari browser, not even once.

My favorite browser.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Unless the porn games involve children who cares? There is porn all over the web children will be fine

 

[nemiroff]

I don't get it. I imagine there are a million easier paths to porn for those who really want it. If I remember correctly back to when I was a child I don't think I would be that interested in porn anyway. Anyway, don't children have parents these days?

 

[RoboFu]

/Steam is slowly backing out if the room while looking around and sweating...

 

[Sean Mirrsen]

/Steam is slowly backing out if the room while looking around and sweating...

Steam adult games are tagged and age-gated, that's the stipulation for them being on the platform. If you don't have a Steam account, just browsing through the store won't let you see any adult content. Even if you do have an account, you have to specifically enable the adult content categories to see them come up in search, let alone on the frontpage.

I don't remember how Itch.io has it set up, but I sort of doubt it's nearly as thorough.

 

[BadBurger]

Well, today I learned what itch.io is. So that's cool.

 

[Fare thee well]

Mud is slinging left and right. But is anyone really cheering for any of these souless megacorps? Doubt they improve anything except for their shareholders.

 

[AdjudicatorHead]

The article’s headline is completely wrong and frames this incorrectly. That’s not the argument that Apple were making.

The argument that Apple were making was that Epic’s own TOS forbid porn or sexual games, yet they’ve added such games through itch.io, effectively breaking their own TOS. They asked Tim if he’d remove them now that it was pointed out that they break TOS and he said he didn’t know.

Apple’s lawyers’ angle here will to show a contradiction in Epic’s own policy and why they want their platform to be closed; because they can’t even trust third party policies. Showing a company contradicting their own ToS when it selectively suits them to get court brownie points for being an open platform isn’t a good look in court.