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Jim Ryan: "We will make sure the PlayStation 5 generation has more exclusive software than ever before

Kokoloko85

Member
Sounds good. I dont doubt the exclusive games. PS5 has more and bigger exclusives announced than the PS4 considering the time. God of War Ragnarok, Horizon 2, Final Fantasy 16, Gran Turismo 7, Ratchet and Clank. We’ve had Demon Souls and Spider man MM. Plus theres a nice choice of indies

Considering PS5 is getting Final Fantasy 16 and Forspoken exclusive its a good start with Japanese Studios.
Games like FF16 is something I prefer over Knack 1&2 and Gravity Rush.....

What I do want is some studio acquisitions, nothing crazy but at least with studios they have worked exclusively before.
I guess they need to up there PSNOW to compete with MS gamepass too, something I personally dont use
 
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Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Well done Sony, that's how you make people buy your console. Microsoft should take note.


Everybody knows PSVR2 exists. It was announced some months ago. We even got details on the controllers from the PlayStation blog.

I don't do leaks. Professional courtesy and all that. But my point was that they have a roster of titles in the works for the thing that have yet to be announced, because obviously they can't show the software without the hardware. Effectively its a second launch line-up.
 

ZywyPL

Banned
That's a VERY bold statement considering how many exclusives PSX/PS2/PS3 had respectively, the bar is set so damn high I simply don't believe it until I see it, is Ryan even aware of the expectations he just created???

Logically, with 5-7 year development times and just a couple of studios it's simply impossible, so either they'll ramp up the development time, expand the studios/buy new ones, or by "exclusives" he means bought timed exclusivity for 3rd party titles. Actually the latter is the only way I can see it being possible, buying as many indie/AA exclusives as possibles, so the numbers will stack up against previous PS consoles, but the quality of those will be questionable... I honestly don't think PS2/PS3 output can ever be topped.
 

Tomeru

Member
simply because there is no one at Sony who has the same charisma as spencer. spencer gave the impression and in many cases did it objectively to choose the best for the divisiin Which according to many PlayStation users is not happening with Jimbo at the Playstation, indeed many see it as a threat
Dude looks like he can barely keep himself awake. What charisma are you talking about?
 
That's a VERY bold statement considering how many exclusives PSX/PS2/PS3 had respectively, the bar is set so damn high I simply don't believe it until I see it, is Ryan even aware of the expectations he just created???

Logically, with 5-7 year development times and just a couple of studios it's simply impossible, so either they'll ramp up the development time, expand the studios/buy new ones, or by "exclusives" he means bought timed exclusivity for 3rd party titles. Actually the latter is the only way I can see it being possible, buying as many indie/AA exclusives as possibles, so the numbers will stack up against previous PS consoles, but the quality of those will be questionable... I honestly don't think PS2/PS3 output can ever be topped.
Who are these 2 studios you are talking about? What happened to the others?

Also how many games take 7 years to develop, very few I imagine.
 

SilentUser

Member
Of course he isn't going to say something different, but at least he said something lol. I have faith in Sony when it comes to the games, though.
 

kuncol02

Banned
That's a VERY bold statement considering how many exclusives PSX/PS2/PS3 had respectively, the bar is set so damn high I simply don't believe it until I see it, is Ryan even aware of the expectations he just created???

Logically, with 5-7 year development times and just a couple of studios it's simply impossible, so either they'll ramp up the development time, expand the studios/buy new ones, or by "exclusives" he means bought timed exclusivity for 3rd party titles. Actually the latter is the only way I can see it being possible, buying as many indie/AA exclusives as possibles, so the numbers will stack up against previous PS consoles, but the quality of those will be questionable... I honestly don't think PS2/PS3 output can ever be topped.
They would need to pay for exclusivity of like 80% of all AAA games released in current generation to beat PS2.
 

Keihart

Member
He said this actually ;):



Lokasi GIF by memecandy
 
Why exclusives? Why not just good games? Does it make a game good if other people can't play it?
Exclusives are the primary reason people will buy a platform and it generally brings out the best in the games and hardware. Look at the way the Switch is doing for example especially considering it came out years later. Also, with these timed exclusives and PC ports I have my doubts, but we’ll see what he really means by most exclusives ever.
 
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With Xbox now having 20+ studios - I sure hope and expect PS to have more exclusives than they did with PS4.

Xbox are catching up very fast and every year that does by and the war chest opens is a step closer to Xbox vastly overtaking with exclusives
I keep hearing that and they do seem to be waking up somewhat, but when are these so called exclusives coming out truly? I’ve heard most of the heavy hitters are several years off and who knows what Sony will have available in all that time? Maybe we’ll see Halo infinite in late 2021, but will that be enough?
 
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Nico_D

Member
Exclusives are the primary reason people will buy a platform and it generally brings out the best in the games and hardware. Look at the way the Switch is doing for example especially considering it came out years later.

Sure. What I meant spesifically that pushing exclusivity (which means what we have and others don't) is different than saying, for example, how first party studios working hard to bring more games to the platform.

Semantics, sure. But it gives a different signal which, in my opinion, donates to console wars.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
It’s sad really, because we all know that doesn’t mean “funding new games” as much as “paying to take away games”from other platforms.
 
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MonarchJT

Banned
Dude looks like he can barely keep himself awake. What charisma are you talking about?
dont know everyone in the industry and xbox fans speak well of Phil Spencer ... unlike Jimbo, where even outlets with entire articles, insiders, journalists and especially fanbases criticize him and don't seem to love him. I mean it is what it is
 
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Ellery

Member
That is what I want to hear. That is what I am here for.

I won't mind the prime cut price if the games are good enough.

I will judge the PS5 exclusive catalogue after the PS6 has been released though. We all know the best games are coming during the later years of a console
 

ZywyPL

Banned
Who are these 2 studios you are talking about? What happened to the others?

Also how many games take 7 years to develop, very few I imagine.

A quick summary from PS3 gen to today:

SSM:
2010 GOW3
2013 GOW Ascension
2018 GOW4


PD:
2010 GT5
2013 GT6
2017 GT:S


GG:
2009 KZ2
2011 KZ3
2013 KZSF
2017 HZD

ND:
2009 UC2
2011 UC3
2013 TLoU
2016 UC4
2020 TLoU2

SP:
2011 Infamous 2
2014 Infamous:SS
2020 GOT

IG:
2006 RFoM
2007 R&C TOD
2008 Res2
2009 R&C ACIT
2011 Res3
2016 R&C
2018 Spider-Man
2020 Miles Morales


So as you can clearly see the development time is inevitably increasing despite the consoles becoming easier and easier to work on. And bare in mind some of the games were made by two different teams from one studio, which means the dev time given for each team was even longer than the dates suggest. Only Insomniac seems to be able to pull out quality games after quality game in no time, but the rest of AAA studios need at least twice as much time. And the games already stat being delayed, so like I said, I really I don't know how they want to beat the PSX/PS2/PS3 lineups with just their 1st party offering. They simply can't, hence I fully expect a ton of games of the size of Godfall, Destruction AllStars, Returnal or the upcoming Kena to often appear as PS5 exclusives.
 

Gediminas

Banned
yes, exclusive content, like PS5 gets 4k checkerboarding and PC will get 4k, and xbox gets on gamepass, all will get exclusive content :D
 

Redlight

Member
I agree it is sad, but I also have to agree with those that see a level of fanaticism / cult of personality praise towards whatever Phil says or does and nothing sticking to him while if people found out something odd Ryan did in kindergarten they would still use it today to criticise him or something he says.

I have not seen a level of fanaticism / cult of personality similar to that towards a CEO in Sony since the KK days, but even then.

The fact that we are comparing the response from each of the canvases towards their respective Boss as if they were the same is also a bit sad…
You perceive the criticism of Ryan in an exaggerated way because you're a big fan of the Playstation brand. You're annoyed by praise of Phil for exactly the same reason.

It'd be nice if you stopped pretending to be above it all. "I agree it is sad", come on now. :)
 
Sadly enough, I don't believe this man in the slightest. Jim is just another suit corporate slave that never really cares about the brand it represents, these are the types who only care about their paycheck and hefty bonuses at the end of their mandate. Show me results with actions and then I can see you are not just smooth-talking the words passed upon to you by the PR department.
 
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longdi

Banned
Sadly enough, I don't believe this man in the slightest. Jim is just another suit corporate slave that never really cares about the brand it represents, these are the types who only care about their paycheck and hefty bonuses at the end of their mandate. Show me results with actions and then I can see you are not just smooth-talking the words passed upon to you by the PR department.

jim was their financial officer for 10-11 years iirc. He can't get any suity than this.
what's his gamer tag? twitter tag?

People like to throw shade at Phil cos he's from big bad MS I guess. but why ignore Phil's extra efforts to engage gamers, to get his hands dirty in games, the courage to change and backtrack and apologize for missteps.

and ultimately of cos the results are coming, the new XGS under his leadership feels like the old OG + 360 days.
 
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Unknown?

Member
Sounds good. I dont doubt the exclusive games. PS5 has more and bigger exclusives announced than the PS4 considering the time. God of War Ragnarok, Horizon 2, Final Fantasy 16, Gran Turismo 7, Ratchet and Clank. We’ve had Demon Souls and Spider man MM. Plus theres a nice choice of indies

Considering PS5 is getting Final Fantasy 16 and Forspoken exclusive its a good start with Japanese Studios.
Games like FF16 is something I prefer over Knack 1&2 and Gravity Rush.....

What I do want is some studio acquisitions, nothing crazy but at least with studios they have worked exclusively before.
I guess they need to up there PSNOW to compete with MS gamepass too, something I personally dont use
Yup, I have no doubt based on it already smoking PS4's first 6 months.
 

ToTTenTranz

Banned
One is making good decisions, the other found Sega’s late 90s playbook of going to war with their Japanese division and thought it was a great plan.
One needed a $7.5B bailout from mommy because of how bad their 1st party studios have been performing. The other keeps releasing GOTY-awarded exclusive 1st-party titles that guarantees a 10 games/console attach ratio besides selling over twice the number of consoles.
 
jim was their financial officer for 10-11 years iirc. He can't get any suity than this.
what's his gamer tag? twitter tag?

People like to throw shade at Phil cos he's from big bad MS I guess. but why ignore Phil's extra efforts to engage gamers, to get his hands dirty in games, the courage to change and backtrack and apologize for missteps.

and ultimately of cos the results are coming, the new XGS under his leadership feels like the old OG + 360 days.
I think Jim might even be allergic to the common folk, he must be at least 50 feet of distance from the gamers hahaha. I know Phil is just another corporate guy (because in reality, you can't escape that life in their position) but he still has that authentic gamer feeling to him. The man really took the Xbox brand to new heights after what Matrick did to it.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
You perceive the criticism of Ryan in an exaggerated way because you're a big fan of the Playstation brand. You're annoyed by praise of Phil for exactly the same reason.
You can praise Phil however you want, but I am also free to call out double standards (you really picked the Ryan fan here :rolleyes:)… of course it must be a fanboy console war thing because it is what you see/have in mind.
It'd be nice if you stopped pretending to be above it all. "I agree it is sad", come on now. :)
Keep it on the personal and see me the way you want. We all have preferences, but we may not be all forums warriors buying the competition device and spending tons of money on software just to troll them on forums… gotcha.
 
I'll be necro bumping this thread 6 years from now just to see how much has changed since then, and to serve some crow if he actually sticks to his word.

I've lived long enough to see the same arguments being made over and over and over only to reach the end of a gaming generation with Sony putting out heavy hitters after heavy hitters and swallowing the competition whole when it comes to games.

If Jim Ryan is the end of that reoccurring truth, then the next 6 years will be me playing on PC almost exclusively.
 

xShaun

Member
I keep hearing that and they do seem to be waking up somewhat, but when are these so called exclusives coming out truly? I’ve heard most of the heavy hitters are several years off and who knows what Sony will have available in all that time? Maybe we’ll see Halo infinite in late 2021, but will that be enough?
This is very true. On the other hand I can only see remasters and boring games on the PS5 at the moment too.
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
They already had one at the PS5 launch, one in Feb and one coming next weeks.

And another in June.

Thats already on pace or passing the PS4 in the same time frame.
 
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yurinka

Member
When did he lie?

sure, jim.

i'll believe it when i see it.
He doesn't say anything new in the interview. He said the same he always said before, and what they have been doing for years.

Define exclusive, Jimmy
Game that can't be played in their direct competition, the other consoles, at least during a fair amount of time. Every year they released more exclusives than Nintendo and Microsoft, and they will continue doing it.

Most Sony studios are working on more games at the same time than before, they will continue having 2nd party exclusives and they will continue having 3rd party exclusives (both AAA and indies, both western and Japanese). It would be stupid to think they will stop doing it or that they will reduce the amount now that they have more money they ever had to invest on them. Just look at the number of exclusives released in the last year and the ones announced for the next year, and compare them to the ones from MS and Nintendo, or to he ones Sony released in the first year of PS4.

Sony has now more stuff, their exclusives are selling more than ever and are winning more GOTY awards than ever or what their direct competitors.

I would love to see them fund some RPGs that wouldn't have been made unless they paid for them.
They have FFVIIR ep 2, FF16, Project Athia, Persona, Yakuza, Dragon Quest, Tales and so on. They aren't short of RPGs.

I can see Konami. But Square and Capcom will never sell.
Konami is performing great, they won't sell either. And has many business Sony isn't interested on. But would be nice to buy them to recover all these classic IPs to put all these classic games on modern consoles and to revive some of their cool console IPs that now are basically dead.

I have a feeling theres an acquisition in planning now, its impossible for them to not do anything after Zenimax massive acquisition by Microsoft.

They are probably keep it in secret as their usual practice.
Yes, they are breaking many gaming industry records, don't need to do any massive acquisition. They will continue doing the same they always did, when time is right both for them and the dev, will buy some development studio who has a story of successful PS exclusives.

Maybe Bluepoint, Housemarque, Kojipro or Quantic Dream. Or who knows, even Kadokawa.

Do movies count as software? Or streaming apps for movies?
Yes, they count as software but he's talking about games because he's the boss of PlayStation and not the boss of Sony Pictures.

Well, I mean, what else is he going to say? "We're just gonna coast on the success of the PS4. Five or six big brands, that's all we really care about. If our studios aren't putting out those games, fuck 'em - they're making DLC for Naughty Dog."
No, of course not. He's gonna say "It's the biggest and best ever!". Remember when Phil said E3 2019 was Microsoft's biggest E3 ever? Corporate gonna corporate.

The proof is in the pudding.
What you say is pure fud bullshit and lies.

In the recent months they released Astro, Sackboy, Demon's Souls, Destruction All Stars or Oddworld plus many cool console exclusive indies and in the few next months they will release Returnal, Ratchet, Days Gone for PC, Guilty Gear Strive, Kena, Ghostwire Tokyo and Deathloop plus many cool console exclusive indies. They have people at -minimum- Guerrilla, Bend, Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, London (plus very likely Pixel Opus and Media Molecule, and who knows if Insomniac and Sucker Punch too) and 2nd parties working on new IPs.

What he says is what they have been doing for years, and since they are breaking many gaming history records they will continue doing it.

Phil always says every E3 is going to be their best E3 ever, but what big exclusives are going to have the first year or this generation other than Halo? That is the difference.
 
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Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
They already had one at the PS5 launch, one in Feb and one coming next weeks.

And another in June.

Thats already on pace or passing the PS4 in the same time frame.
Actually, they had 3 during launch: Demon's Souls + Astrobot + Godfall. Sackboy and Spider-Man Miles Morales were cross-gen exclusives, so 5 exclusives in total at launch.

Then DAS, then Returnal this month, then R&C in ~6 weeks.
 

Dr Kaneda

Member
He didn't even need to make to his statement since to any sane person it was obvious that would be the case since that's what Sony has done literally every gen since the PS1.

But to a select group of spackers on here because Sony didn't announce their entire 6-7 year lineup in the 1st few months of this gen it meant PS5 was doomed.
 
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splattered

Member
I believe they have a lot of amazing games not yet announced. :) I also believe this is going to be mixed in with a heavy focus on tv movies and anime streaming value add, more games coming to pc, 1st party games coming to psnow day one, and other things that are going to piss off sony fans at first until they put down their pitchforks and learn to accept modern times.
 
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