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[mansoor1980]

been playing some games with chromatic aberration / film grain , and i am starting to like effects like these , i am of the opinion that these effects give a nice filmic touch to a game and help in realizing the artists vision especially in regards to horror games,i think it adds a lot to the atmosphere of the game , bloodborne and alien isolation would look too clean without it , i hope future games use it well eg stalker 2 , RE8 , any possible future silent hill game..............what say you neogaf?

 

[Krappadizzle]

No.. Just no. Film grain can have it's use on very rare occasions. But Chromatic aberration is an abomination. 99.8% of the time film grain is overused and should be turned off/lowered. 100% of the time CA needs to be turned off.

 

[GamesAreFun]

Perhaps in horror games like Bloodborne & Alien Isolation it works, as it makes the visuals more unsettling. But in general I find Chromatic Aberration ridiculous and turn it off where possible.

Film grain & motion blur can be ok, depending on the implementation. I usually turn them off though, like in Spyro remastered where the screen becomes vaseline when you spin the camera.

 

[Husky]

I can see why someone would like them, the visual flaws create a good illusion that there's a much more realistic visual behind all the filtering.
But I fucking hate chromatic aberration. Chromatic aberration is the 9/11 of graphical effects. Film grain's not the worst thing, but I'm turning it off.

 

[Roberts]

I always liked that stuff, never distracted or annoyed me.

But I also don’t like the overly clean and sharp digital picture in movies and don’t mind when they add grain to it or use funky old lenses.

 

[dcx4610]

Always hated it. Video games aren't film. There's zero reason to have grain or camera effects.

 

[mansoor1980]

Perhaps in horror games like Bloodborne & Alien Isolation it works, as it makes the visuals more unsettling. But in general I find Chromatic Aberration ridiculous and turn it off where possible.

Film grain & motion blur can be ok, depending on the implementation. I usually turn them off though, like in Spyro remastered where the screen becomes vaseline when you spin the camera.

screen motion blur is shit as it smears the screen but object motion blur is a superb effect

 

[Patrick S.]

I honestly love chromatic aberration.

I love pineapple Pizza, too, though.

 

[Aenima]

I will never be your friend OP.

Almost all my beauty screenshots of Bloodborne was ruined by the Chromatic Aberration.

 

[Krappadizzle]

screen motion blur is shit as it smears the screen but object motion blur is a superb effect

It always felt like when people say they hate motion blur they never realize how huge of a difference there is between per object and screen space. Per object looks great, screen space is terrible. It's annoying though in an options menu when it's not specified and/or tied to each other.

 

[Fbh]

Might want to get yourself tested ASAP, a lack of taste is one of the main COVID symptoms

 

[gypsygib]

To each their own. I find film grain, in rare instances, makes games look a bit more like CGI and have more depth for some reason. Haven't seen a case where CA makes a game look better.

 

[Reality Czar]

I have always loved it. I think game devs should be able to use all the post production effects their hearts desire.

 

[mansoor1980]

Might want to get yourself tested ASAP, a lack of taste is one of the main COVID symptoms

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

Chromatic aberration gives me eye strain. =/

 

[MightySquirrel]

I understand wanting DoF in still beauty shots, only when you're not playing, but chromatic abomination is hands down the worst visual 'effect' to come out in recent years. If it can't be tuned off = game is unplayable to me.

 

[Kilau]

I personally can’t stand CA, it’s ugly and distracting. It’s like how lens flare had to be in every game, my eyes aren’t a camera so unless the player is supposed to be looking through a camera why am I seeing all these camera effects. Same for film grain.

 

[jhjfss]

 

[MightySquirrel]

I don't understand film grain either. Most of the time it just makes your clean 4K look like its 720p.

 

[Hendrick's]

CA can be okay if done with a subtle hand, but any screen overlay or filter is just trash and I always turn them off.

 

[Represent.]

its great. Id argue that if you hate both of these things you just have boring taste in visual arts and your living room is probably stale as fuck

 

[VictorVectors]

There's a support group for people like you, OP

Stockholm Syndrome

 

[mansoor1980]

I understand wanting DoF in still beauty shots, only when you're not playing, but chromatic abomination is hands down the worst visual 'effect' to come out in recent years. If it can't be tuned off = game is unplayable to me.

so if a game is brilliant , 4k , locked 60 fps with chromatic aberration and you will find the game unplayable?

 

[N1tr0sOx1d3]

been playing some games with chromatic aberration / film grain , and i am starting to like effects like these , i am of the opinion that these effects give a nice filmic touch to a game and help in realizing the artists vision especially in regards to horror games,i think it adds a lot to the atmosphere of the game , bloodborne and alien isolation would look too clean without it , i hope future games use it well eg stalker 2 , RE8 , any possible future silent hill game..............what say you neogaf?

Bloodborne and Alien Isolation as you mention really make good use of CA. I love the effect. Hendricks is correct mind, it needs to be a subtle effect and not plastered all over the place.

 

[mansoor1980]

There's a support group for people like you, OP

Stockholm Syndrome

 

[MightySquirrel]

so if a game is brilliant , 4k , locked 60 fps with chromatic aberration and you will find the game unplayable?

If there's no way to turn off chromatic abomination and film grain, then devs are not getting a penny from me, even if its rated 95 meta.

 

[ABrokenToy]

TLoU2 wouldn't have looked as good as it did without film grain. I don't even think they gave you the option to turn it off.

 

[NeilH1982]

I never had any problems with it. I don't even mind piss filters. If that's the artistic vision then so be it.

 

[Anchovie123]

CA personally gives me a headache but film grain i usually leave on or turn on. idk how to explain it but it just looks nice.

 

[Melfice7]

Chromatic aberration needs to be nuked. Or better yet just always give us the option to turn it off thanks

 

[Shifty1897]

Film grain and CA are abominations and must be disabled in all games or we will riot in the streets.

 

[GametimeUK]

I disagree OP, but I'd like to see an option in game to toggle the effects for those who enjoy them.

 

[Physiognomonics]

I am starting to not like you.

 

[mansoor1980]

I am starting to not like you.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Because those effects are awful and can actually be physically painful for some, notably CA. But I wasn't serious with my previous post ;-)

 

[Irobot82]

Because those effects are awful and can actually be physically painful for some, notably CA. But I wasn't serious with my previous post ;-)

CA's always made me mildly nauseous

 

[mansoor1980]

CA's always made me mildly nauseous

 

[Irobot82]

Really?

It make me cross eyed a little like staring at those 3D painting and makes me a little ill.

Sorry I guess.

 

[mansoor1980]

Really?

It make me cross eyed a little like staring at those 3D painting and makes me a little ill.

Sorry I guess.

which game was it?

 

[Irobot82]

which game was it?

Cyberpunk was one. I think the other was Dying Light.

I don't even bother anymore, I check setting before I even start a game and turn it off if it's a setting.

There was also a game I remember a while ago that you couldn't turn it off.

 

[mansoor1980]

Cyberpunk was one. I think the other was Dying Light.

I don't even bother anymore, I check setting before I even start a game and turn it off if it's a setting.

There was also a game I remember a while ago that you couldn't turn it off.

well cyberpunk runs like shit and dying light has that first person view with parkour , also there are other things to consider before chromatic aberattion , is the fps smooth , image sharp , along with display screen quality and size.
a lot of factors to be honest

 

[Irobot82]

well cyberpunk runs like shit and dying light has that first person view with parkour , also there are other things to consider before chromatic aberattion , is the fps smooth , image sharp , along with display screen quality and size.
a lot of factors to be honest

Yeah Cyberpunk does run like shit and normally I wouldn't even bother but I remember people saying it's part of the aesthetic. So I tried again and noped it right off.

 

[ZehDon]

Film grain in a medium that cannot use film. Dumbest fucking idea I've ever seen; turn it off immediately. You need better art designers if the best way you can make a "gritty" image is to fuck up your artists work and then puke it back out every frame.
Chromatic aberration can make sense, but it usually doesn't because developer's don't understand subtly. Turn that shit way down.
Motion blur occurs in film because the frame rate is too low to properly capture moving objects, leading to the trail effect. It's a defect. Games do not have this problem. Turn that shit right the fuck off.

The irony here is that cinema has been working hard for decades to remove film grain and motion blur from their images, while game developers have been working hard to add it in because they think it's "cinematic". It's sad.

 

[Reality Czar]

The irony here is that cinema has been working hard for decades to remove film grain and motion blur from their images

Lol what? Was not aware this was a thing. Film grain is just baked into the medium until digital filmmaking removed it entirely what is this worked for decades to remove it thing lol?

I don’t get the outrage. Like you guys want to see the pure pixels or something. It’s so silly.

 

[kyliethicc]

Film grain in a medium that cannot use film. Dumbest fucking idea I've ever seen; turn it off immediately. You need better art designers if the best way you can make a "gritty" image is to fuck up your artists work and then puke it back out every frame.
Chromatic aberration can make sense, but it usually doesn't because developer's don't understand subtly. Turn that shit way down.
Motion blur occurs in film because the frame rate is too low to properly capture moving objects, leading to the trail effect. It's a defect. Games do not have this problem. Turn that shit right the fuck off.

The irony here is that cinema has been working hard for decades to remove film grain and motion blur from their images, while game developers have been working hard to add it in because they think it's "cinematic". It's sad.

Film grain is just another tool for visual art design. Same as any other.

Games or films, it doesn't matter, its all just a choice by the artist. Judge the implementation, but view it as the artist intended.

 

[Little Chicken]

Agreed OP. I love most effects when used well. It's a shame most people mod them out and then thinking they're some kind of artistic director, add reshade to everything which, 99% of the time, looks atrocious.

The world is not super sharp 4K native! When I take my glasses off I see in 520p!

 

[StateofMajora]

Dear god. We are trying to kill CA, what if devs are watching this thread?!

For the love of sharp image quality please lock the thread mods

 

[kyliethicc]

been playing some games with chromatic aberration / film grain , and i am starting to like effects like these , i am of the opinion that these effects give a nice filmic touch to a game and help in realizing the artists vision especially in regards to horror games,i think it adds a lot to the atmosphere of the game , bloodborne and alien isolation would look too clean without it , i hope future games use it well eg stalker 2 , RE8 , any possible future silent hill game..............what say you neogaf?

Depends on the game, how its used, etc. Naughty Dog used both grain & CA very well in The Last of Us Part II.

This has a bunch of great examples.

Naughty Dog’s guide to The Last of Us Part II’s Photo Mode

Make your in-game photographs stand out with these editing tips, featuring snaps taken by the studio.

blog.playstation.com

 

[mansoor1980]

Depends on the game, how its used, etc. Naughty Dog used both grain & CA very well in The Last of Us Part II.

This has a bunch of great examples.

Naughty Dog’s guide to The Last of Us Part II’s Photo Mode

Make your in-game photographs stand out with these editing tips, featuring snaps taken by the studio.

blog.playstation.com

great link there , adds a lot to the game , forgot to mention RE7 , that also looked great with it

 

[Corgi1985]

No that's how they get ya. Next you'll be saying 30 fps is more cinematic