The Connect never had any benefit it's advertisements was a lie from the start (Milo demo and others) ssd's however have shown their benefit from the start and will continue to do so as the gen progress and engines change to accommodate them properly naturally the faster setup will show more benefits same can be said when new gen pc hardware releases soon ... Theres absolutely no point in mechanical hdd's at this point apart from data storage and cold storage of games .
You're right, he did it for the same reason Sega put so much emphasis on "Blast Processing"...marketing spin, and you apparently swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Just remember, when nothing comes out of this that can't run off a common or garden SATA SSD (and for 99% of games, HDDs), that we tried to tell you.
That's one way to look at things I guess Lol PS just had one of those most successful console launches of all time during a pandemic, and their 1st party exclusives are getting even more sales and recognition. God of War did 20 million units and Uncharted 4 did over 17 million units. More storage space is coming soon and problems with cross-gen titles isn't a thing. There are a few good PS exclusives on PS5 already and it doesn't matter if they are cross gen they are still new games
I'll trust Playstation's words and track records of producing some of the greatest visual spectacles in gaming and 3rd party devs over y'all, comment engineers 
I actually was thinking more about streaming assets on the fly. Which is what Bluepoint talked about in their interview with John Lineman from Digtal Foundry.
Basically connects to what Cerny said about this.
Yea, this has got to be the most hyped feature of any generation I've been in. It's not enough to be able to stream in Gb/s of data in a game. Everyone that's been interviewed assumes that all that data will be free to render and our games will just magically look significantly better and run the exact same as it does today as if all of these "last-gen" games can be rendered now at 60FPS @ 4k and the consoles are shitting on the processing of these latest games. If the new consoles are powerful enough to handle a significantly larger jump in triangles and texture resolutions, then we would see consistently high FPS/resolutions in the games that don't even use that tech. Yet, all we see in DF videos are consoles barely able to maintain 1440p with dynamic resolution.
It’s the same bunch that read SSD and talk load times like it’s 10 or 12 years ago. But then again, those same posters think Sony had the MLB license and don’t realize Microsoft could have made an MLB game anytime they wanted. If they were capable of actually doing it of course.
Exactly
This is what anyone who references the PS5 SSD is talking about. It’s people like you who try to make it about load times. SSD load times have made console games load faster for over ten years on both PS3 and PS4. It’s a given already. The PS5 SSD and I/O does that and then some.
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I want a cross-gun that shoots both gamepass voosters and smash bros players at the same time.
He was clearly joking. Non next gen Hivebusters is already on par and Flight Simulator will beat it easily.Demon's Souls is the best looking console game I've yet to see, truly amazing in areas.
But, come on now.
you are not describing nothing incredibly new or revolutionary. Having a faster SSD that is still dozens and dozens and dozens of times slower than RAM. It certainly helps the system but let's stop with "game changer" or "a new era" bs, sure there will be shorter hidden loading times, if you want MUCH shorter but they will always be there and the demonstration is exactly in rachet and clank The "tunnel" serves to hide the loading time which unfortunately still exists. And since it takes loading time to empty and fill the ram completely and then to allow the gpu to render just like.rachet&c. , well we go back to the old concept of the ability of developers to know how to hide loadings which can be done on any machine from PC to Xbox. The thing is whether the ps5 concept would have been to completely change from one full load situation to another then it would have been so fast that there would have been a distinct difference between the competition (and it seems that in full load situations it cannot) , the fact of having seen the rachet tunnel suggests that on another machine it would be enough to stay in the tunnel for 1 or 2 seconds more to get the same result practically leaving the gaming experience intact.
You think? im not so sure. But we will never know
My PC has an SSD thats a bit faster than PS5 (7gb read)...
That’s not faster than PS5.
It’s coded into last gen games.
PS5 is 5.5gb.
That’s when the data is uncompressed, no developer leaves game files uncompressed. When the data is compressed, it’s 8-9GB/s with the dedicated Kraken decompressor hardware on PS5 capable of outputting as much as 22GB/s.
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It remains to be seen how many games stream zlib or kraken compressed data and decode it in software on PC (which on PS5 it actually props PS5’s effective speed in the 8-9+ GB/s range, without taking into account for Oodle Texture compression).
If Sony had a game that required that much data to be streamed regularly, would it even fit on their 600gb hard drive? Not if you still have to copy game installs.That’s when the data is uncompressed, no developer leaves game files uncompressed. When the data is compressed, it’s 8-9GB/s with the Kraken decompressor capable of outputting as much as 22GB/s.
Sony purchased licenses for their SDKs that developers use, from RAD Game Tools which compress the files and textures even further (through a higher compression ratio), increasing the read speed even more. Right now, a 17.38GB/s read speed is achievable on PS5 thanks to RAD’s Oodle Kraken and Oodle Texture.
PS5 IO System to Be 'Supercharged' by Oodle Texture, Bandwidth Goes Up to 17.38GB/s
Sony has licensed the Oodle Texture technology, 'further superchanging' the PS5 IO system with a peak bandwidth of up to 17.38GB/s.
A blog post from RAD Game Tools themselves:
How Oodle Kraken and Oodle Texture supercharge the IO system of the Sony PS5
The Sony PS5 will have the fastest data loading ever available in a mass market consumer device, and we think it may be even better than yo...
Point is, PC isn't "holding ps5 back". Especially not when the PS5 has a low end (by 2021 standards) GPU.It remains to be seen how many games stream zlib or kraken compressed data and decode it in software on PC (which on PS5 it actually props PS5’s effective speed in the 8-9+ GB/s range, without taking into account for Oodle Texture compression).
Also, the overhead (until at least Direct Storage lands and brings it down a few notches) to transfer data (key in streaming on demand data/random accesses of small to moderate sized files) is an area where the PS5 is still very likely (XSX too) to hold an advantage and then you have 3x the number of priority levels for better on demand data access due to an in-game event (2 —> 6). Then again on PC’s you can stuff with more than double the main RAM and have dedicated VRAM on top, but that is not $399 PC’s material.
He said he did. It expect it to be needed, some games do not appear to have it, but some developers still struggle with it. If it can be removed for some games it can be removed for all in the future. We still have a pattern of underselling more than overselling taking the entire PS5 architecture overview and hype and what it delivers (imagine their competition not advertising controller latency improvements despite delivering them, advertising almost half of the effective SSD speed ignoring the boost provided by the Oodle Texture library they bought for all the PS4 and PS5 devs, etc…).
Yup. Mark Cerny didn't put such an emphasis on I/O, the 12 channel SSD with different priority levels and the geometry engine for nothing. PS5 exclusives are going to look amazing once the SSD frees up ram for denser textures and other things
lol, a gtx 770 was 2 times faster than a ps4
Yes, if you are limited by a relatively small fixed memory pool (RAM) you are going to stream the same chunks of data more than once (stream, use, unload, stream again) during the entire game playback as you try to keep as much RAM available for current scene data only instead of prefetching data you do not need yet far in advance.
PC is a useless moniker as there is not A PC that everyone buys with the same specs. You will find plenty of people on HW that offers far less performance and does not have access to similar API’s as the consoles do making them even further apart.
Yes because that’s the whole point of compressing your game files, we’re already seeing it with third-party games like RE8 and Control with the file size for the PS5 version reduced by quite a decent amount, so it’s a good indication that third-parties are already putting these compression tools to good use this early into the gen.
Of course, too many Game Pass threads make the SSD popular again.
Anyone interested in AAA gaming on PC, or high FPS will be there or above. Yes most PC gamers do not, but how many of them play indies, fortnite, etc? They don't care about playing AAA games on ultra. Build the machine for what you want to do.
The HZD port is notoriously bad, but I think they've fixed it now.
I guess we'll find out when more of Sony's first party games come to pc.
