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Move Over Horse Armor - The New Xbox Wireless Headset Comes With 6 Months Of Dolby Atmos
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AgentP
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We are not talking about clean water, these are headphones. Capitalism is the only thing that drives innovation in technology. Getting a competitive advantage and selling more than your competitor. Without capitalism, you would have $300 headphones with no features made by fat middle aged people in the US or EU for $40/hour. If you want to know how well economies work under another system, go study the Soviet Union.
The Pleasure
Member
Looks like Dolby is powering their dreams and Microsoft is saying go for broke!
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Its not tied to the headphones in anyway. Its the same Dolby Access Store app that gives you Dolby Atmos for headphones license across 10 devices for 15 USD. This arrangement has been their since 2017.
The fact that you claim to be unbiased while propagating the most misinformed conclusions and calling them a fact should tell everyone whether to take you and your baits seriously.
Your initial posts in this thread look like some grand MTX conspiracy theory made for a safe space thread where you will validate your insecurities with your pals confirming each other with every post.
Too bad the thread didn't turn out like that so now you are just trolling with GIFs hoping for people to leave your thread alone(or as you call them "bumping"). Its like your whole online identity is about complaining how users of a plastic box you don't like are just supporting a company which only wants to milk them for money and you are part of some "they care about the players" club. Since its difficult to validate the latter with users of other platforms, so you just open concern threads to validate the former hoping to feel better by being validated by your circlejerk.MS be like,
DeepEnigma
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Why stop there?
All optional extras should be fronted by the corporations right?
Why should this optional extra be special?
I may be mistaken, but does not Dolby Atmos need to be supported by the App / Game / System to push those 14.2 ++!1! channels to your ear holes?
Otherwise is it just another Windows Sonic feature pushing 5.1 / 7.1 sound to stereo?
Just use Windows Sonic at that point? Why pay $15 for a feature that needs application support to utilize.
Otherwise is it just another Windows Sonic feature pushing 5.1 / 7.1 sound to stereo?
Just use Windows Sonic at that point? Why pay $15 for a feature that needs application support to utilize.
ManaByte
Gold Member
The game needs to support Atmos. Good thing a lot do.
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Atmos on Headphones, along with Sonic, Tempest and DTS X, all simply use an algorithm that uses HRTF to try and fake the sound to sound atmospheric. It doesn't matter if its stereo or surround, it will apply the algorithm to the sources and does its thing.
Bernkastel
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I remember making this thread.
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DaGwaphics
Member
I guess a more relevant topic would be do users that pay for Atmos for headphones find it to be superior to Windows Sonic in games that support Atmos.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah, why stop there!
Piecemeal all the codecs and middleware! From physics engines to analog tech!
Jigsaah
Gold Member
I'm confused is this a dig against Microsoft for not eating the full license or for Dolby for having a license in the first place?
Isn't Windows Spatial just as good? I don't know I've never tried Dolby Atmos. Seems like a smart move business-wise for Microsoft. They get to entice players to buy their headset over competition with shiny new sound software, but the software isn't permanent which means they don't necessarily take a hit on people who will eventually use their own Windows based software.
Isn't Windows Spatial just as good? I don't know I've never tried Dolby Atmos. Seems like a smart move business-wise for Microsoft. They get to entice players to buy their headset over competition with shiny new sound software, but the software isn't permanent which means they don't necessarily take a hit on people who will eventually use their own Windows based software.
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Salty Popsicle
Banned
It's similar to the situation with Samsung TV's not having Dolby Vision simply because Samsung doesn't want to pay Dolby for the license to use the software on each TV they manufacture.
DaGwaphics
Member
There's a strawman if ever there was one.
The differentiator is whether or not this middleware is a necessity or an extra. If MS didn't have Windows Sonic as a 3D audio solution, I'm sure they would have included Atmos for headphones by default (and ate the cost). Just to support the feature and be competitive with rivals.
A.Romero
Member
The license is for emulating Atmos with non Atmos devices. It's been like that since Windows 10 released.
If you have a Atmos receiver it will work without paying anything else because decoding happens at the device and they already paid the license.
I think it's OK because it lowers the cost of the headset and allows people to choose to pay if they are interested in having emulated Atmos on their headset.
Going by many previous threads I've seen in GAF over the years, most people don't care.
If you have a Atmos receiver it will work without paying anything else because decoding happens at the device and they already paid the license.
I think it's OK because it lowers the cost of the headset and allows people to choose to pay if they are interested in having emulated Atmos on their headset.
Going by many previous threads I've seen in GAF over the years, most people don't care.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Are you really trying to equate optional third party software to physics engines that are implemented at an engine level? You have to be joke posting at this point?
Update 1703. Before that, Dolby for Headphones.
I already bought it for Cyberpunk 2077. Honestly with my tone deaf self, I could not tell the difference, except when I turned it on and it broke my sound card's driver and I had to reboot.
Last sentence there, spot on. Microsoft is just throwing it in to say, "Let people decide with their wallets if it is important enough a feature."
Miscrosoft is not going to put this into the BOM price of the product, and what if it doesn't pan out. All those licenses wasted if the product does not sell. This way they are hedging their bets buy allowing the paying public to pull a Philip J. Fry and shout
If they don't no big deal they can adjust their strategy and focus on basic 3D with the omission of a fancy name brand addon.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I'm not making excuses for things that were once included at one time.
Are you really trying to equate optional third party software to physics engines that are implemented at an engine level? You have to be joke posting at this point?
I love that gif
Hence the "horse armor" reference that has people's panties in the bunch. You didn't need it, it was optional. Some complained, some made excuses to spend extra. Fast forward 10+ years and some still complain, and some still spend and make excuses.
This will be fun to revisit in a decades time.
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
I'm not making excuses for things that were once included at one time.
I love that gif
Thats not what I asked in the slightest.
And its a GOAT tier gif.
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Kagey K
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I noticed a difference in both Cyberpunk and Gears 5 when I used the trial, which is what convinced my to purchase it when it was on sale.
Those games are both specifically coded for it though, which is why I used them as my tests.
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Hitchyhero
Banned
Disagree. Your title was a bit baity and compared horse armour to a headset. The MS headset comes with Windows Sonic audio so will work right out of the box and most people will be happy with that. For people that want Atmos, they have that option.
You could easily write a baity title on the opposite side. "Sony limits consumers options on their headset. Refuses to include Atmos or DTS as options. Tempest only."
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DeepEnigma
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Nah, Horse Armor is apt if other middleware licensees decide to see a revenue stream in that endeavor (especially the information harvesting). It all starts somewhere, and people were also accused back when Bethesda introduced it on the MS platform that "slippery slopes aren't real..." yet here we are today with the MTX behemoths we all complain about one way or another.
This isn't about Sony, no matter how much those who pretend to not have biases or totally not fanatics themselves always seem to want to throw that in here. I mentioned nothing of Sony once in this entire thread, other than the PS2 had DVD so I never purchased the DVD kit for my OG Xbox, and that both headsets are great for their price point.
The ladies doth protest too much.
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In an alternate universe:
"The Bethesda game comes with the story so will complete right out of the box and most people will be happy with that. For people that want Horse Armor, they have the option."
/s
There is a lesson we should be unwilling to forget about what complacency did with DLC. Here we are with mobile games, cash shops, loot boxes, FIFA ultimate team, micro transactions, season passes, and the list goes on. The question about the ethics of forcing al-a-carte products on the masses breeds a hole new level of academic research.
It is a weak comparison to make the headset to the horse armor DLC, true. But, what if in the end it wasn't? This is why ethics classes exist in business school. How far is one willing to go to push the morals of an individiaul to make a dollar?
Shit, look at the streaming services. Years ago when Netflix started making sic profits. We knew it was coming. Now? Over 20+ services are now live with your shows behind their walls all charging $10+ a month. You cable bill is now your streaming bill. No savings. No pro choice options.
On a deeper level the comparison of the OP might just be asking the question, is this the beginning of fragmentation of the hardware accessory market? RGB craze is dying off. Gotta make an extra profit somewhere, right?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's definitely not false advertising.
Hitchyhero
Banned
No they don't. Thread title should really read "Sony limits its headsets codec options"... But this is sonygaf.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You all are the ones bringing up Sony.
It's like some incapable of seeing any forms of criticism towards Dolby and the vehicle of it through their favorite brand without a ... SONY TOO!
#SonyToo
#StompsFeet
#Pout
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DaGwaphics
Member
I'm not making excuses for things that were once included at one time.
I love that gif
Hence the "horse armor" reference that has people's panties in the bunch. You didn't need it, it was optional. Some complained, some made excuses to spend extra. Fast forward 10+ years and some still complain, and some still spend and make excuses.
This will be fun to revisit in a decades time.
The horse armor wasn't the ridiculous strawman (though that kind of fits too), it was the physics engines and the analog sticks. I'd completely agree with you if someone was bundling a controller that you couldn't use until you payed an extra fee, but that isn't the least bit comparable to the topic of this thread (nor would ever happen in real life, LOL).
If you were looking for something analogous to this headset/Atmos situation, try something like back buttons. Both Sony and MS could just include a controller with this feature, but they want those extra $$$ and have discovered that buyers are willing to pay. Even this isn't perfect, because here MS and Sony directly benefit, in the case of Atmos for headphones, MS makes a few dollars on the transaction at most.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Let's just hope "slippery slopes" that have always proven to impact every monetary facet aren't real in this facet, yeah?
I could easily see Logitech and the like having bare bones immersion tech, only to offer improved add-ons for a price that were one time included selling points.
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
DeepEnigma
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Bernkastel
How is it projection when they're the ones coming in here bringing up Sony. I didn't bring up SonyToo™
You guys fail at "gotchas."
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Hitchyhero
Banned
How is it projection when they're the ones coming in here bringing up Sony. I didn't bring up SonyToo™
You guys fail at "gotchas."
You can't even see that your baiting. As has been mentioned dozens of times, the headset works out of the box with Microsofts own codec. Like Sony, they have included their own codec which works out of the box.
Unlike Sony, MS has given its customers options to have Atmos or DTS, which those companies charge for. But instead of seeing the option as a good thing.... You've baited and made it look bad.
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Console war bait is console war bait, no matter how you make it look with concern trolling.
How is it projection when they're the ones coming in here bringing up Sony. I didn't bring up SonyToo™
You guys fail at "gotchas."
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
How is it projection when they're the ones coming in here bringing up Sony. I didn't bring up SonyToo™
You guys fail at "gotchas."
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sony again, eh?
Just let the thread die if it bothers you so much, or does it grate at you so much that you just can't not click on it? It'll be okay. MS will be okay. There stocks are doing well. We all win!
Same as above. I don't see you crying about negative or critical Nintendo or Sony threads. Ignore the thread or Cope.
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DeepEnigma
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Hendrick's
Y'all emotional victims acting like your above the very shit you complain and partake in yourselves.
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Neither do I bait and concern troll about other platforms or make threads about them. That is something I can cofirm. I think this is the last time I made one(although its not bait).
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IntentionalPun
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I'm just here for the triggered reactions.
DeepEnigma
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You only complain about perceived negative news to your favorite brand. I don't see you white knighting all the other critical brand threads.Neither do I bait and concern troll about other platforms or make threads about them. That is something I can cofirm. I think this is the last time I made one(although its not bait).
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We can do this all day. Keep replying, keep it on your membrane.
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
You didn't read my post it seems.
I don't talk about them positively or negatively because I don't own them. I don't go and troll their threads, or make console war bait threads.
Also,
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I can respect that. This is only a console war thread, if people make it one. As a consumer, this raises my eyebrow about the future. We've been down this road far too many times.
manfestival
Member
So what is it that samsung did that they offer dolby atmos as part of their galaxy line? Why could that not be applied here?
Also it is a feature I don't use since on the phones it seems like an equalizer and I am not a fan of those. Especially if all they do is add V shape sound to my perfect frequency
Also it is a feature I don't use since on the phones it seems like an equalizer and I am not a fan of those. Especially if all they do is add V shape sound to my perfect frequency
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Samsung probably has it included similar to how MS does in the Xbox for home theater. Paid for the license and included it in every unit.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Really? Show me where I made a thread as dumb and pointless as this one?
Y'all emotional victims acting like your above the very shit you complain and partake in yourselves.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You have your trolling and baited takes like the rest of us, don't play. You don't like the thread, ignore it, instead of semantics.
I'd never thought I'd see a scene like this. Some anti-xbox post getting dogpiled on. Live footage of the action unfolding
