dolabla
Member
Yeah, true. They also do a X900H vs. X90J comparison in that vid. This tv needs to hurry up and release here
. There's games I'm dying to play to right now, but want to hold off cause I want to experience it on the new set.
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Sony’s 2021 TV lineup runs Google TV and fully embraces HDMI 2.1
. There's games I'm dying to play to right now, but want to hold off cause I want to experience it on the new set.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Yeah, true. They also do a X900H vs. X90J comparison in that vid. This tv needs to hurry up and release here
Yeah only saw that X900H was showing more details yet less contrasty? Maybe due to the xtended contrast or the video is just not that good quality anyway to judge. Gonna get it later on Black Friday.
mitchman
Gold Member
All manufacturers except LG and Samsung being restricted to just 2x HDMI 2.1 ports, of which one must be used for eARC leaving only 1 to share between 2 consoles and a PC, is still a major issue in 2021. Only LG and Samsung seems relatively future proof with their own SOC and consequently 4x HDMI 2.1 ports.
dolabla
Member
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It looked like more detail on the X90J to me in this particular image.
Weird, huh? We'll wait for the proper reviews in 4K.
dolabla
Member
Definitely want to wait for some better screens and a reviewer in a language that I can actually understandWeird, huh? We'll wait for the proper reviews in 4K.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Definitely want to wait for some better screens and a reviewer in a language that I can actually understand
Can't see myself not buying though, unless there is a serious problem which is unlikely.
dolabla
Member
Doesn't the QN90A only have 1 HDMI 2.1 port?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Found this:
Apparently the USA model has only 1 HDMI 2.1 port. But the EU model will have 2-4 HDMI 2.1 ports via external one connect box, it will cost more though.
Samsung QN90A Neo QLED specifications - TV Database - FlatpanelsHD
Samsung QN90A Neo QLED specifications - TV database - FlatpanelsHD
www.flatpanelshd.com
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It looked like more detail on the X90J to me in this particular image.
I would most definitely wait. I've never seen an image that blurry that wasn't 720p on the 90H. Nor is my picture ever that washed out.Weird, huh? We'll wait for the proper reviews in 4K.
dolabla
Member
What? That is stupid not to give the US that choice too.Found this:
Apparently the USA model has only 1 HDMI 2.1 port. But the EU model will have 2-4 HDMI 2.1 ports via external one connect box, it will cost more though.
Samsung QN90A Neo QLED specifications - TV Database - FlatpanelsHD
Samsung QN90A Neo QLED specifications - TV database - FlatpanelsHD
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I'll be watching X90J reviews for entertainment, already have my mind set. I might buy a cheap X90H as well when X90J hits the market to use it in my new photo/video studio as 55" is actually near identical to A0 prints (44" printers), which is 57.3" (~6" taller but -1" narrower). I also use TV's for video/photo editing (turn off everything, might as well turn off local dimming). I know some professional monitors might be slightly more accurate, but accuracy is pretty good so far on Sony TV's out of the box.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I think it might be priced at around $600, only a guess.
That would be amazing if thats the case, would be half the price of Asus' flagship 43" monitors.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Or could be $700 at the very beginning. I'm assuming that according to last year's model X800H:
Also read: Sony unveils 2020 line-up of 8K & 4K Full Array LCD TVs Sony's mid-range X800H with 4K, Android, and Apple features will start at $700 for a 43-inch model and reach $2700 for a 85-inch model. We refer to the table below for more information.
Sony reveals US pricing for X950H and X800H 4K LCD TVs
X900H is also listed at some retailers.
www.flatpanelshd.com
But see it's $599 here:
dolabla
Member
There were a bunch of prices that showed up on B&H a few weeks ago. The A90J price turned out to be accurate. The 43" X85J was priced at $799.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
X85J might be a reskinned X900H, which is a great TV, but with no local dimming and edge lit. But for PC usage at 120fps you might need to wait for reviews if it solved the 4K@120fps blurr on PC.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I picked up a Sony A8h oled at a good discount. 65 incher. 2.1 features aren't really a concern for me. Just an fyi if some of y'all just want a great tv without breaking the bank.
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mitchman
Gold Member
Yeah, must be some legal matter forcing them to not use a one connect box in the US. I upgraded my Samsung 65" F9000 for 3 consecutive years using just updated one connect boxes, so I eventually ended up with 4 HDMI 2.0 ports for the last 2 years. It's a nice system.
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TKOFromTokyo
Member
MediaTek’s MT9638 4K Smart TV Chip Ushers in a New Era of AI-Enabled
MediaTek’s MT9638 4K Smart TV Chip Ushers in a New Era of AI-Enabled Interactive Multimedia Experiences
corp.mediatek.com
I just saw this elsewhere. Some upgrades including WiFi 6 for gig speed abilities, HDR10+, and hopefully 4 HDMI 2.1 ports would be big upgrades. I’m not sure where people are seeing that last point. I’m seriously debating waiting for 2022 when Sony would likely be using this soc.
mitchman
Gold Member
Suspiciously not mentioning how many HDMI 2.1 ports it supports.MediaTek’s MT9638 4K Smart TV Chip Ushers in a New Era of AI-Enabled
MediaTek’s MT9638 4K Smart TV Chip Ushers in a New Era of AI-Enabled Interactive Multimedia Experiences
I just saw this elsewhere. Some upgrades including WiFi 6 for gig speed abilities, HDR10+, and hopefully 4 HDMI 2.1 ports would be big upgrades. I’m not sure where people are seeing that last point. I’m seriously debating waiting for 2022 when Sony would likely be using this soc.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
Yeah, someone on AVSforum mentioned 4 ports, but I couldn’t find that in this or any summaries of the announcement.
Also, it only mentions 4K60, not 120.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Another Sony tv without Roku built in.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why would you need Roku, when it already has all the apps Roku has?
Just cut out the middle man.
Flyingpanther
Member
Interested the 65inch x90j /x95j I have a old 4k tv from sony 49x8305c it would probably a very big upgrade I think?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It'll be a decent upgrade! Nothing overwhelming.
base
Banned
For lower framerate content? What a bullshit. They are great for everything. Burn-in issues appear only when watching CNN 24/7.
Flyingpanther
Member
I always had a buyer remorse with this tv don't like the blacks/colours of this one and its really reflective. So hopefully there 2021 led line up will not disappoint
Melchiah
Member
The 55" X90J should be a huge upgrade compared to my current 1080p Bravia 40W5500 from 2009.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
The 55" X90J should be a huge upgrade compared to my current 1080p Bravia 40W5500 from 2009.
Aiming for that as well! Hope the new processor has nailed HDMI 2.1 this time around.
Melchiah
Member
Hopefully. I'm eager to see the reviews, particularly of HDTV Test UK.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
I'm so torn on which route to go down. I'd prefer Google TV over Tizen or WebOS. Also not sure if I really need OLED, but I guess there will be choices around that.
My main concern is the HDMI 2.1 situation still on Sony, I would want at lest 2 devices to be hooked up, but would also want eARC for surround. So I guess a solution might be to invest in a HDMI 2.1 compliant AV Receiver. Where is the market at with these as the moment, is there a reasonably priced model coming out this year with > 2 HDMI 2.1 ports that will support 4K/120hz and all other features correctly?
My main concern is the HDMI 2.1 situation still on Sony, I would want at lest 2 devices to be hooked up, but would also want eARC for surround. So I guess a solution might be to invest in a HDMI 2.1 compliant AV Receiver. Where is the market at with these as the moment, is there a reasonably priced model coming out this year with > 2 HDMI 2.1 ports that will support 4K/120hz and all other features correctly?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It's safer to wait and make no moves until you see experts test all that and get solid feedbacks because it's a big investment, long-term as well.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Bo, this is the logical and 'sane' thing to do. But when i get it into my head that I 'need' something new, my impulsive behaviour sometimes gets the better of me.
I think you're right though, I need to train my brain to just not think about it until the end of the year, or maybe the summer when loads of TV deals happen for the Euros and Olympics. By then we should have some real-life information and performance feedback.
Comparison of the 120Hz mode?It looked like more detail on the X90J to me in this particular image.
I really should have waited a year more. Not that I really want to play @120fps, but 120Hz also should show frames sooner than at 60Hz and blurr less. Well ... should.
Still waiting for the VRR patch.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Bo, this is the logical and 'sane' thing to do. But when i get it into my head that I 'need' something new, my impulsive behaviour sometimes gets the better of me.
I think you're right though, I need to train my brain to just not think about it until the end of the year, or maybe the summer when loads of TV deals happen for the Euros and Olympics. By then we should have some real-life information and performance feedback.
Yeah I won't touch the tv until it gets a serious discount, like around $800-700 range for the 55". Because I need that budget for other stuff urgently, haha!
Melchiah
Member
Yeah, I'll be waiting until it goes under 1000€ as well, just like I did with 40W5500 back in the day. Hopefully it goes down to that before the end of the year. In that sense, I'm actually happy that games like Horizon Forbidden West and God of War: Ragnarok are unlikely to come out this year, so I don't have to play them on my old 1080p TV.
dolabla
Member
Here are the US release dates according to Value Electronics:
Not sure about the 120hz mode. I can't really find anything on it yet.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
I ended up buying the 65” A90J. It comes in a week.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Congrats, mate! Hope you enjoy it.
Melchiah
Member
The 55" X90J is coming sooner than I expected. There's hope of getting it for <1000€ before the year's end after all.
Rea
Member
Tell us how does it looks when you receive. I'm very interested in that tv too.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
If the X90H pricing was anything to go by, these will have some great sub $1K deals by August/September.
Melchiah
Member
That's good to hear. It took longer than that for the old 40W5500 of mine to go there from 1500€.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Just saw this video from HDTVTest. Looks like the Samsung 4 HDMI 2.1 ports via the One Connect box are not included on the QN90A and is instead on a model called QN95A (which the US isn't getting). I haven't bought a Samsung in years, but this is such bullshit from them:
Oh that tricky marketing. YouTuber's didn't help when they were pushing it like the whole brand adopts 4 while Sony only 2.
dolabla
Member
Sony X90J page up on Value Electronics: https://valueelectronics.com/product/sony-x90h-series-4k-hdr-tv/
Guess they're getting close to taking pre-orders. Never ordered from them before (usually go with Best Buy), but tempted to since they always seem to get these sets first.
Guess they're getting close to taking pre-orders. Never ordered from them before (usually go with Best Buy), but tempted to since they always seem to get these sets first.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Man, they are making it hard for me not to go in on the A90J.