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[FatKingBallman]

You not reading I'm unsilenced/unbanned because again i was completely right from the start ..and after the evidence came to light (initially my speculations also if based on lots of facts could seem forced personal interpretation and hence the silence) they had to unsilence me. You can accept it or live in your fantasy world

Mod had to unsilence you because you were right? WOW. You have a such high opinion about yourself. LOL.
Dude, you were claimed that PS5 is RDNA1 based. You were called out for spreading FUD, not me. You were banned from that thread, not me. There is a reason why you were banned. Cheers!

 

[DavidGzz]

Shit, was busy with Valheim lately so I missed Pillars of Eternity 2, Dirt 5, and Final Fantasy 12 on Game Pass. All downloading now. So good.

 

[FatKingBallman]

They got the money back I think at 3/4 of the ps4 gen.

Nope. They were on profit with PS4 console sales sometimes during 2014. You can check Sonys reports on that.

 

[LMJ]

Hot damn, this is PS3 footage?

No wonder so many folks are disappointed by todays graphics...

Riky , I know it's hard to debate what with constantly being distracted by VRR and all, but try harder amigo...With how great the XseX is with BC there is FAR better ammo lol

 

[The Hamburglar]

Didn’t take long for the Xbox persecution complex to kick in.

We’ve literally just had some fan boy tell us why he prefers Xbox with a lengthy op and the summary was game pass...

2 days later another lengthy op with summarises as game pass..

This op could have easily gone in that thread and said “yeah I prefer Xbox because of game pass” rather than regurgitate the same thing.

Why doesn’t someone make a game
Pass thread where you all can pat each other on the back saying game pass. Or is another random gaf poster going to treat us to another explanation (game pass) on Friday why he prefers Xbox?

 

[Riky]

Hot damn, this is PS3 footage?

No wonder so many folks are disappointed by todays graphics...

Riky , I know it's hard to debate what with constantly being distracted by VRR and all, but try harder amigo...With how great the XseX is with BC there is FAR better ammo lol

It's still a graphically updated PS3 game. Don't go on a pedestal about playing "new" games when your game is a decade old,

 

[MonarchJT]

Mod had to unsilence you because you were right? WOW. You have a such high opinion about yourself. LOL.
Dude, you were claimed that PS5 is RDNA1 based. You were called out for spreading FUD, not me. You were banned from that thread, not me. There is a reason why you were banned. Cheers!

i was COMPLETELY right. i just stated facts and connected dots. I said that ps5 was a mix between rdna1 and rdna2 with rdna2 features developed by sony (because rdna2 by amd wasn't still ready) added in top of it (it doesn't mean it is rdna1 nor that is full rdna2)
I was right ...Locuza as leviathan and all the others thinkas me after analysis.
And the ps5 is in fact exactly what I said I'll not answer to you anymore about it.
silenced

 

[GHG]

Shit, was busy with Valheim lately so I missed Pillars of Eternity 2, Dirt 5, and Final Fantasy 12 on Game Pass. All downloading now. So good.

Cancel the dirt 5 download and grab wreckfest instead.

You can thank me later.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Cancel the dirt 5 download and grab wreckfest instead.

You can thank me later.

 

[MonarchJT]

Cancel the dirt 5 download and grab wreckfest instead.

You can thank me later.

It is funny . Yes

 

[LMJ]

It's still a graphically updated PS3 game. Don't go on a pedestal about playing "new" games when your game is a decade old

Making the same mistake Riky , yes it is indeed a remake...like the Gears remake on the One and the Halo remastered on the One or Conkers Bad Furday Reloaded on the Box...nor Links Awakening or SOTC on the PS4

A remake is STILL a new game, just because it's a faithful remake doesn't make it or those less impressive... If you were mocking say...an BC game then sure THAT's an old game, or a remaster at an increased res, then again...old game...

You can mock Demon Souls all you want, but it WAS the only next gen game that LOOKED next gen at launch...again better ammo available

 

[Loope]

It's still a graphically updated PS3 game. Don't go on a pedestal about playing "new" games when your game is a decade old,

You must admit that it is an hell of an update. In fact Fromsoft games are part of a small group (along with GoT and GT) that would make me buy a Sony console.

 

[DavidGzz]

Cancel the dirt 5 download and grab wreckfest instead.

You can thank me later.

Yeah, already have Forza Horizon 4 for my racing fix, I think I will take that advice. Thanks.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Making the same mistake Riky , yes it is indeed a remake...like the Gears remake on the One and the Halo remastered on the One or Conkers Bad Furday Reloaded on the Box...nor Links Awakening or SOTC on the PS4

A remake is STILL a new game, just because it's a faithful remake doesn't make it or those less impressive... If you were mocking say...an BC game then sure THAT's an old game, or a remaster at an increased res, then again...old game...

You can mock Demon Souls all you want, but it WAS the only next gen game that LOOKED next gen at launch...again better ammo available

Its an old game dude. Nothing wrong with liking old games but... its still just an old game with a graphical update, nothing more.
No use pretending otherwise.

 

[Snake29]

Jim Ryan already hinted at the Gamepass competitor in december, when he was asked about that in an interview.

When Sony drops their service (or current PSNow overhaul). A big selling point for the XSX will be kinda “gone”, if both get the big third parties on it. Only difference might be day one first party titles. It still looks like most people want to pay for games instead having a big service where most people just “try” some of the games. I personally rather focus on some of my games i need to finish, then trying all kinds of games that didn’t even bother me. I had gamepass before but i didn’t even used it that much after all. Looks like i still like to own my games.

 

[FatKingBallman]

i was COMPLETELY right. i just stated facts and connected dots. I said that ps5 was a mix between rdna1 and rdna2 with rdna2 features developed by sony (because rdna2 by amd wasn't still ready) added in top of it (it doesn't mean it is rdna1 nor that is full rdna2)

And the ps5 is in fact exactly what I said I'll not answer to you anymore about it.
silenced

You were not completely right. So cut the crap. You also claimed that PS5 GPU is RDNA 1 based, and the posts i've quoted from you just proved it, despite you hardly trying to convince everyone that you didn't said, but you did.

I was right ...Locuza as leviathan and all the others thinkas me after analysis.

So, you're telling me that Locuza and Leviathan are basing their future PS5/XSX die analysis on your FUD analysis. WTF i'm reading here. LOL I'm realizing that Xbox fans here are the most delusional fandom i've ever witnessed. It is batshit insane

 

[assurdum]

Its an old game dude. Nothing wrong with liking old games but... its still just an old game with a graphical update, nothing more.
No use pretending otherwise.

I mean it's 20 years Xbox release Halo. Fucking 20 years. I need to ask: what exactly is innovative or new in his gameplay formula at every sequel released? Outside graphical update. Please tell us.

 

[turtlepowa]

It's still a graphically updated PS3 game. Don't go on a pedestal about playing "new" games when your game is a decade old,

I can't even imagine the shitshow here on GAF if Series X had Gears 5 Hivebuster as standalone expansion and a Alan Wake remake while PS5 had Knack 3. Man Xbox would be eaten alive, shat out and be eaten again while Knack 3 was GOTY 2021

 

[Guilty_AI]

I mean it's 20 years Xbox release Halo. Fucking 20 years. I need to ask: what exactly is innovative or new in his gameplay formula at every sequel released? Please tell us.

You mean the original Halo or new entries?

 

[assurdum]

You mean the original Halo or new entries?

Whatever. Outside the graphic. It's practically the same game with nip and tuck

 

[Guilty_AI]

Whatever. Outside the graphic. It's practically the same game with nip and tuck

level design, mechanics, story, even the entire concept of the game can be different seeing as Halo infinite for example is fully open world while original halo only had open levels.

 

[assurdum]

level design, mechanics, story, even the entire concept of the game can be different seeing as Halo infinite for example is fully open world while original halo only had open levels.

With all respect but lol. It has the same FPS structure from 20 years. It's like to say Demon Soul remake is as a new game because they have updated the controls and there are no more loading time

 

[Guilty_AI]

With all respect but lol. It has the same FPS structure from 20 years. It's like to say Demon Soul remake is as a new game because they have updated the controls and there are no more loading time

Are you telling me theres absolutely no difference between an linear shooter in closed levels to an open world sandbox one?

 

[assurdum]

The Riky argumentation:
Probably it's the best intelligent comment you can pretend by him. Otherwise is all about spit out MS propaganda.

 

[Lysandros]

You tried to spin Locuzas statements numerous times in that thread. Of course he was diplomatic. He is very level headed guy to avoid conflict.

I agree on Locuza being a level headed guy not interested in console wars but sadly his posts and comments (maybe because of some misunderstandings or early conclusions) resulted in adding quite a bit of fuel for the nearly defunct RDNA1 narrative. Now, i am pretty sure this was not his intend, yet it triggered its revival somewhat.

 

[sublimit]

Good ol' troll Shitaku article reminiscent of their 2005-2007 glory days.

 

[Thirty7ven]

I can't even imagine the shitshow here on GAF if Series X had Gears 5 Hivebuster as standalone expansion and a Alan Wake remake while PS5 had Knack 3. Man Xbox would be eaten alive, shat out and be eaten again while Knack 3 was GOTY 2021

This scenario only makes sense in your head. Excuses regarding Xbox First party software offering have pilled over the last decade, and this angle you're playing comes across as coping.

 

[assurdum]

Are you telling me theres absolutely no difference between an linear shooter in closed levels to an open world sandbox one?

It's a simple argumentation. You said Demon Souls Remake is just an old game with updated graphic. So we can say also Halo series practically is an old FPS with updated graphic?

 

[Josemayuste]

Demon Souls >>>>> Gamepass

Hell yeah!!

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Gamepass is great. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. It might not be for everyone but that doesn't mean it's not a great service to exist.

 

[Guilty_AI]

It's a simple argumentation. You said Demon Souls Remake is just an old game with updated graphic. So we can say also Halo series practically is an old FPS with updated graphic?

no because the game itself is also completely different, not just the visuals.
The proper comparison between Halo games wouldn't be Demon Souls and Demon Souls remake, but Demon Souls with Dark Souls or Dark Souls 3.

 

[JLB]

Oh for fuck sake, for a group of gamers who've aligned themselves to one of the most successful consoles in history from the previous gen, produced by one of the most successful brands in history in Sony, you aren't half sensitive fuckers.

The guy plays his Xbox more than his PS5 at the moment: big deal, it's not an Illuminati Aztec Microsoft Mandela Effect Media Conspiracy its just someone with a reason to play one console over another.

My absolute favourite quote in this thread is "as an enthusiast gamer" - whilst explaining that waiting for titles to come to Gamepass is dumb and rubbish. Remind me fella, what exactly are you playing on your PS5 at the moment? Or are you waiting for something to come out like the rest of us...

Its too complex for the avg IQ of the people in question. Dont try it.

 

[deriks]

Yeah, GamePass is great

...and I didn't needed a report to explain why

 

[assurdum]

Oh for fuck sake, for a group of gamers who've aligned themselves to one of the most successful consoles in history from the previous gen, produced by one of the most successful brands in history in Sony, you aren't half sensitive fuckers.

The guy plays his Xbox more than his PS5 at the moment: big deal, it's not an Illuminati Aztec Microsoft Mandela Effect Media Conspiracy its just someone with a reason to play one console over another.

My absolute favourite quote in this thread is "as an enthusiast gamer" - whilst explaining that waiting for titles to come to Gamepass is dumb and rubbish. Remind me fella, what exactly are you playing on your PS5 at the moment? Or are you waiting for something to come out like the rest of us...

It's the same MS PR bullshit at every next generation. The same wave of articles punctual as clockwork.

 

[Zeroing]

There's no need to apologize to PS5, it is an object, therefore it does not have feelings.
He is lucky because I still have not got a chance to get any of the new consoles... that is my take on his article.

 

[Hendrick's]

They are defecting like crazy.

 

[Anki]

Some of you are really pissed that some person prefers one console over another.

 

[PropellerEar]

Experience what I see in my surroundings is totally opposite.
Several people are selling their slightly used XSXs that they bought to quench that Next Gen thirst(But it didn't, because it doesn't have any next gen experiences) when they couldn't get a PS5.

No one else but scalpers are selling their PS5s.

 

[Concern]

Holy shit do these threads ruffle some feathers lol.

Everyone so worried about other people's preferences and even offended by it

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

It’s threads like this that make allegations like “there is no such thing as a Sony GAF” so hilarious.

I’m pretty sure the people who think the remake of a 10+-year old game is reason enough to fork out $500 plus scalper tax for a new console didn’t think the first Halo or any launch Zelda game were reason enough to buy the respective consoles.

Some people may prefer the XSX to your prized PS5. It’s high time you started dealing with it already.
I’d bet some money that “The PS5 is the better choice and here’s why” articles don’t rustle your jimmies so.

 

[Josemayuste]

Gamepass is great. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. It might not be for everyone but that doesn't mean it's not a great service to exist.

Yeah, sure, and while I like the service, gamers once speak with our wallet for online play, and I'm not up for paying for a subscription service which may have the same potential to stay, honestly.

 

[eyesabitdull]

Man, idk, the only service of gaming I currently pay for is EA Play.

I think it's neat that I have quite the catalogue to play from and that a number of legendary titles are available.

My issue with it is the same issue I have with Netflix; because it's there and available anytime, I tend to just play for a short while, lose interest, and drop it off and uninstall the game.

It's either because i've already played it and nostalgia glasses come off and it's an "eh, played it before," or it's because I know that I can re-download anytime I want that it doesn't matter if I don't finish it.

But when I actually buy a game that i've been looking forward to, I absolutely give it my all try to complete it.

There's definitely a type of customer that GP appeals towards, but idk, so far it's as every bit of fun as Netflix - in that it's fun and exciting at first, but the sheen wears off not too long after when you realise you're retreading old games when what you really want is something new to blow you away.

BUT, maybe that's my experience with EA PLAY.

Once GP is available in my region, i'll have a formed opinion then.

 

[assurdum]

Some of you are really pissed that some person prefers one console over another.

I can't care less personally. But every new generation always appears a "sophisticated" group of people who tries to sell the next Xbox as something elitist for true gamers. Lol

 

[Loope]

It's a simple argumentation. You said Demon Souls Remake is just an old game with updated graphic. So we can say also Halo series practically is an old FPS with updated graphic?

You argumentation is flawed in the sense that you're comparing a game series to a remake (although an awesome remake). It's like saying if there is a new TLOU it doesn't count, GT doesn't count, Uncharted doesn't count. That doesn't make sense.

To me a remake is almost like a new game, nothing wrong with it. But a new game in a series, is definitely a new game for all purposes.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Experience what I see in my surroundings is totally opposite.
Several people are selling their slightly used XSXs that they bought to quench that Next Gen thirst(But it didn't, because it doesn't have any next gen experiences) when they couldn't get a PS5.

No one else but scalpers are selling their PS5s.

What i'm seeing is people going retro because there aren't any noteworthy "next gen experiences".

The fact a remake and a crossgen DLC are being lauded by players as "next gen" is proof enough of that.

 

[DrAspirino]

At the end of the day, the games I actually want to play are on Playstation and MS hasn;t proven anything to me otherwise.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. In fact, my best bet is that japanese games will go directly to PC, since Sony is ditching Japan...

 

[assurdum]

You argumentation is flawed in the sense that you're comparing a game series to a remake (although an awesome remake). It's like saying if there is a new TLOU it doesn't count, GT doesn't count, Uncharted doesn't count. That doesn't make sense.

To me a remake is almost like a new game, nothing wrong with it. But a new game in a series, is definitely a new game for all purposes.

Try to undersell Demon Souls as an old game with an updated graphic and nothing more, isn't it drastically different to argue Halo series as the same old FPS from 20 years.

 

[Three]

Qanon have better conspiracy theories. Why is it so difficult for Sony fanboys to tolerate Pro xbox articles. Majority of them are still all about Sony. No need to be upset.

What tosh comparing it to qanon. Paid articles are a thing, as are paid posters. Wasn't there a number of confirmed bans right here from MS workers at the launch of xbox one?
Show me a "I'm switching from xbox to Playstation" news article if these type of articles are so organic.

People call these out because there is a history of them. There is a history of MS aligned or paid journalists/personalities like Tom Warren, Brad Sams, Major Nelson, Colt Eastwood, Timdog. MS take their PR and PR spin to a new level and sometimes that comes and bites them in the ass with lack of trust whether the article is sincere or not.

 

[PropellerEar]

What i'm seeing is people going retro because there aren't any noteworthy "next gen experiences".

That can be true for some people.

 

[Roman Empire]

These are my points about the Microsoft business model:

The Pros

• Gamepass adds enormous value to their library;
• The company started to highly invest in its first-party studios (even though I don't like their strategy of buying most of them, it's a clever one);
• Their strategy with Gamepass appeals to a broader audience that might not even be gamers, and appeals to low expenders;
• Being available on PC is another nice touch;
• They have a low entry point for non-gamers;

The Cons

• Gamepass doesn't appeal to enthusiasts since they mostly buy the games at launch or a few days/weeks after launch. They tend to finish the games and move on;
• Their first-party lineup isn't that diverse genre-wise (first-person shooter, third-person shooter, racing - simulation-esque, and arcade). They need to show something;
• The entry console, the Series S is showing signs of being a bottleneck on the production pipeline for their next-gen titles, leading to compromises that have an effect on the Series X version (lower texture fidelity, less complex geometry, little tweaks here and there to adapt the games). We know that this being a problem early-on on the generation won't be reassuring for the future of Series S owners;
• The Series S is weaker than PS5 digital version;
• PC being a direct competitor to their Hardware. With consoles being basically PCs with closed specs, if you already have a good/amazing machine (the minority, I know) there is nothing appealing about the Series X/S to you when their exclusives will be available on PC day one.

I think the media shouldn't be just focusing on Gamepass as the be-all-end-all to Microsoft. The business strategy might be efficient, but I can already see people rioting when they inevitably raise the prices of the service (because we all know that all that licensing for Gamepass is not cheap), To hell, remember that Microsoft already tried to raise the prices for Gold and people were fuming, but there is no reason to not bump it, even if a little bit. Until then, Microsoft needs to work on their weak points mentioned above (lineup diversity, and making the Series X games worth their hardware potential).