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PS5 exclusives drove me to buy Xbox Series X — here’s why

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THE DUCK

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Games he’d still have to buy if he wanted them on launch or at all because they are neither never coming to gamepass or not for a while
Cod Cold War: $70
Assassins creed Valhalla: $60
FIFA 21 with discount from ultimate discount applied: $54
Year of game pass ultimate: $180
Total: $364 for the games your buddy actually wants to play

ps5

Cod: 70
Ac: 60
FIFA: 60
Ps plus: 60
Total: $250 leaving your friend over 100 bucks to spend on indies as he sees fit rather than wait for them to maybe go to gamepass.

So you are trying to convince your friend to spend a over 100 bucks a year more for the only added bonus being a bunch of gamepass games he probably wont touch?

It would depend, having more games at his disposal might offer him more value overall.
Certainly for me, the past 12 months have opened my eyes to many titles that would not have tried that are fantastic. Or games that he was on the fence on he now has included.
 
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Renozokii

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It would depend, having more games at his disposal might offer him more value overall.
Certainly for me, the past 12 months have opened my eyes to many titles that would not have tried that are fantastic. Or games that he was on the fence on he now has included.
Such a weird perspective, one I have to be wondering if it’s exclusive to Xbox gamers. More is not better by default. I’m glad it opened your eyes and you tried new games. Are you going to be willing to pay 180 (and surely more when ms wants to make money) in perpetuity for those games though?
 
Such a weird perspective, one I have to be wondering if it’s exclusive to Xbox gamers. More is not better by default. I’m glad it opened your eyes and you tried new games. Are you going to be willing to pay 180 (and surely more when ms wants to make money) in perpetuity for those games though?
It's €10 a month for me (Gamepass Ultimate yearly code) and it's more than worth it.
 

Jebron

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Game Pass is perfect for playing all games period. If its a good game its coming to Game Pass.
What the fuck? This is top-tier Xbot brainwash bullshit. Just because it's a "good" game doesn't mean it's going to come to Game Pass. Hundreds of "good" games will never come to Game Pass. Do you guys even think about this shit before you write it?

Also, I'm a huge Game Pass advocate, but people that say shit like this are just clueless.
 
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Games he’d still have to buy if he wanted them on launch or at all because they are neither never coming to gamepass or not for a while
Cod Cold War: $70
Assassins creed Valhalla: $60
FIFA 21 with discount from ultimate discount applied: $54
Year of game pass ultimate: $180
Total: $364 for the games your buddy actually wants to play

ps5

Cod: 70
Ac: 60
FIFA: 60
Ps plus: 60
Total: $250 leaving your friend over 100 bucks to spend on indies as he sees fit rather than wait for them to maybe go to gamepass.

So you are trying to convince your friend to spend a over 100 bucks a year more for the only added bonus being a bunch of gamepass games he probably wont touch?
$180 would buy a couple of years of Gamepass if you stock up on codes at Black Friday. Mine runs out September 2022 and I've paid no more than £6.66 a month which seems pretty cheap to me especially since I need it anyway to play online.

If you have a PC Gamepass can be had for free if you run ABS in the background every morning for the MS reward points (not sure I would bother doing everything if I only had a phone or tablet and had to click everything manually though).

It's clearly not for everyone but it's amazing value at the minute. I'm sure that will change in the future.
 

MonarchJT

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Such a weird perspective, one I have to be wondering if it’s exclusive to Xbox gamers. More is not better by default. I’m glad it opened your eyes and you tried new games. Are you going to be willing to pay 180 (and surely more when ms wants to make money) in perpetuity for those games though?
what would be strange? There are a lot of games that I enjoyed playing even though they received low metacritic ratings. There are a lot of games that I enjoyed a lot with but that I would never have bought at 59 69 or even worse at today's 80 euros. Have you never bought a game and in the end you don't find it as exciting as you thought it was enough to make you abandon it ? Once you have found a game you want to keep forever, you can buy it by taking advantage of the discount offered by gamepass. But the idea is to always remain subscribers of course if you have the console. You can find online offer the 1 year of Gamepass ultimate starting 116 euros on cdkey time will pass before it reaches 180 euros and if you think about it it would be like buying a little more than two Returnal (that is an AA production) a year ..receiving back much ...much more than just 2 games (obviously I wasn't talking about the returnal game in particular .. but it was a generic example)
 
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Banjo64

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No shit.
 

GhostOfTsu

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This is Feb so add up the cost of every game and let me know how much it is compared to playing $15 for Game Pass

Mr. Rogers aint got nothing on you all with this story telling. :messenger_beaming:
That's not how it works. Are you actually going to play them all?

Monster Hunter I have on PS plus, Deadfire on GOG, Yooka Layle and Jurassic free on Epic, Code Vein 7$ physical at Wal-Mart before Christmas, FFXII already played. The rest is shovelware zero interest.

I would never pay 15$ a month to rush to finish those games. Gold + PS Plus + Epic + Indie Humble (when they have a good month) comes out cheaper and you can play at your own pace.
 

Greggy

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When you do not value the end product, you get product that is not valuable. See Crackdown 3 and a whole slew of 6/10 Gamepass fodder. I pay gladly for quality games. Without this revenue, you cannot pay salaries and the true cost of the software.
Are you saying it takes a 70$ retail price to make sure we can have Godfall? Put the look aid down. I don’t regret buying a PS5 but I also don’t get this “thank you for charging me more, you can’t do no wrong” attitude certain people have towards Sony.
 
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Krisprolls

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I know plenty of people who don't care all that much about sony games tho, and who'd rather play those "filler" games than pay 70$ for what they consider just a mildly entertaining experience.
Sony's definitely on its way to losing those costumers.

Yeah, Xbox fans have been saying that for 20 years and Sony is still on top. Wake me up when that happens.

People will buy and play the best games. As long as Sony makes them, they have nothing to worry about. Gaming isn't about "value", you just play the games you want.
 
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As soon as Xbox has a truly next gen exclusive as good as Demon's Souls on Game Pass he should let the readers know.

It might, uhhhh ... be a very long time.

Side note: His analogy only works when Blockbuster and Netflix have the same content. If you can only get The Godfather, ChinaTown, Alien, Blade Runner, Apocalypse Now and Heat from Blockbuster, while Netflix only has Weekend At Bernie's, Meatballs, and Encino Man - Blockbuster is absolutely in no danger.

Content is king.
You mean straight to streaming Jafars return and mortal kombat assination and that made for tv movie from lifetime. That's gamepass.
 

Vasto

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That's not how it works. Are you actually going to play them all?

Monster Hunter I have on PS plus, Deadfire on GOG, Yooka Layle and Jurassic free on Epic, Code Vein 7$ physical at Wal-Mart before Christmas, FFXII already played. The rest is shovelware zero interest.

I would never pay 15$ a month to rush to finish those games. Gold + PS Plus + Epic + Indie Humble (when they have a good month) comes out cheaper and you can play at your own pace.


When ever you get done add that cost up for all those games and then compare the cost of that to paying $15 for Game Pass. Dude just named like 5 different services while Game Pass alone has all of it. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Guilty_AI

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Yeah, Xbox fans have been saying that for 20 years and Sony is still on top. Wake me up when that happens.

People will buy and play the best games. As long as Sony makes them, they have nothing to worry about. Gaming isn't about "value", you just play the games you want.
I'm not talking about xbox fans tho, just players in general. As i said, plenty people don't like these "top" games, or at least don't think they're worth the money they charge. If they don't want these games, what then? There's no reason for them to stay in the PS ecosystem.
 
When ever you get done add that cost up for all those games and then compare the cost of that to paying $15 for Game Pass. Dude just named like 5 different services while Game Pass alone has all of it. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

PS Now and PS+ yearly combined are cheaper than GPU yearly. So, with surplus of 60$ you can afford another service then.
 

Vasto

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What the fuck? This is top-tier Xbot brainwash bullshit. Just because it's a "good" game doesn't mean it's going to come to Game Pass. Hundreds of "good" games will never come to Game Pass. Do you guys even think about this shit before you write it?

Also, I'm a huge Game Pass advocate, but people that say shit like this are just clueless.

WoW we got profanity, name calling and a " You Guys ". What do you mean " You Guys " ?

Sorry but you did this to your self. :messenger_sad_relieved:

GIF by Eric
 

NeatoB1

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Why would Sony ever allow that?
The reason why gamepass isn't on there now is because Xbox still makes Consoles. well they don't really have any good games either. so they can still make their console right now. once they have their package of games ready to go they can stop making the console and Sony will probably allow them to launch on PlayStation
Microsoft is a software company first. consoles not the money driver. they're not really making any money off of them compared to Software. And when they're good and ready they can go to sony and cave on Hardware to get PlayStation players on Game Pass
thats MS/XBOX END GAME
you can't reach 2 billion Gamers without PlayStation and Nintendo players
That's just what I think! how far off you think that is?
 

Vasto

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I know this article will trigger a lot of people on this forum.....

But the author repeats exactly my feelings and is exactly why I swapped to xbox this gen. I'll certainly miss God of war and other exclusives..... But gamepass is really what won me over.


You can always just pick up a cheap PS5 toward the end of this gen and play their exclusives which will be $10-$20 by then. That is what I plan on doing because no way am I owning a system where I have to spend $80 for a Sony game. I just got an entire year of Game Pass Ultimate for $80 during the Black Friday sales.
 
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Brand loyalty aside the article has a solid point. I try out, play and buy more games than I have in years with Gamepass. I'm not spending $100+ on more than 1-3 titles per year. The same goes for having kids, my kids have new games all the time, friends that can play the same games with them and we've even talked a number of other parents/families into sharing the GP goodness. It's really a nice time to be a gamer.

If you love your PS exclusives then no one is taking that away from you but I'm not paying AUD$100+ for a game I'm going to play through once e.g. TLoU etc. That's why I don't own a PS5. Your mileage may vary but I'm in the boat with this article.
 

GhostOfTsu

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When ever you get done add that cost up for all those games and then compare the cost of that to paying $15 for Game Pass. Dude just named like 5 different services while Game Pass alone has all of it. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
So you were going to buy all those games if it wasn't for GP? You don't actually have any arguments.

Without Gold, half the GP library is useless so you need it anyway. PS plus is 27$ a year on CD keys, insane value. Epic is not a service, you just claim the game for free and it's yours forever, right now Rage 2 is free. Another GP fodder that I deleted. Indie Humble also not a service, you just buy it and it's yours on Steam forever. Lots of their games are on Gamepass too.

As I said, it's for ignorant people that see the amount of games and think they are saving money with these rentals. You seem very clueless so yeah GP is perfect for you.
 

SafeOrAlone

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Playstation fanboys (generally speaking) hate to hear about GP. It's the thing they don't have and it is indeed a great value and a great proposition.

I play enough games to be here on Neogaf, and there is plenty for me to enjoy on there while I wait for next gen to fully arrive. Let's be honest: no one is offering a lot right now in regards to next gen games. Playing older games is a major factor for the first few years and Xbox is crushing Sony in that area.

PS5 is promising, but Xbox is making major comeback strides and GP is a big part of that.
 
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Gamepass is definitely a good service, but I kind of feel that people are not being fully pragmatic about it at times. Now if Gamepass was getting all MAJOR third party games on day one or even shortly after, then I can maybe see more of an argument against buying games at $70, but a lot of the offerings on GP can be snagged for very cheap on PS5. Also, some people would rather own their games while some don’t mind using a service. Why people acting like Microsoft first party games for purchase and other third party games won’t be $70 as well?

Yeah, Gamepass gets Microsoft’s first party games on day one, but how can he compare PS5 and XSX when Microsoft hasn’t even released a major first party game yet? There’s nothing assuring that Microsoft’s first party games will be on par with Sony’s or Nintendo’s at this point. How long is he willing to wait for Halo, Bethesda’s offerings and other exclusives to show up on Gamepass?
 
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Vasto

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So you were going to buy all those games if it wasn't for GP? You don't actually have any arguments.

Without Gold, half the GP library is useless so you need it anyway. PS plus is 27$ a year on CD keys, insane value. Epic is not a service, you just claim the game for free and it's yours forever, right now Rage 2 is free. Another GP fodder that I deleted. Indie Humble also not a service, you just buy it and it's yours on Steam forever. Lots of their games are on Gamepass too.

As I said, it's for ignorant people that see the amount of games and think they are saving money with these rentals. You seem very clueless so yeah GP is perfect for you.


You are the one that is clueless. It not about me or what I would buy. Its about the value of Game Pass in what it offers.

Also $15 for Game Pass Ultimate gives you Gold.
 
The reason why gamepass isn't on there now is because Xbox still makes Consoles. well they don't really have any good games either. so they can still make their console right now. once they have their package of games ready to go they can stop making the console and Sony will probably allow them to launch on PlayStation
Microsoft is a software company first. consoles not the money driver. they're not really making any money off of them compared to Software. And when they're good and ready they can go to sony and cave on Hardware to get PlayStation players on Game Pass
thats MS/XBOX END GAME
you can't reach 2 billion Gamers without PlayStation and Nintendo players
That's just what I think! how far off you think that is?

The reason GamePass isn't on Switch or PlayStation is because Nintendo and Sony. MS would put it on there in a heartbeat.

Why would Nintendo and Sony allow MS to basically overtake their closed-ecosystems? All that would be is people buying fewer games, where Sony gets a cut. Unless MS is just going to give those rental fees directly over to Nintendo and Sony?
 

Metnut

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I’m glad that Gamepass is an option for gamers like the OP. Consumer choice is a great thing.

Personally, i don’t mind mind paying to play the best and newest games. I also prefer to own my games rather than perpetually rent them.
 

Romulus

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Is that when they wont cost $70-$80 because that is what the OP is talking about, not that there are not any exclusives coming.

Right but making a judgment now based on a measly 10 bucks per game when you can't even see the landscape is ridiculous.
 
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sainraja

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Gears 5, state of decay 2, crackdown 3 (gross) and forza horizon 4 were all day and date on gamepass so far
I meant newer first party games (games that they just invested money into.) Even Sony has some of their old games available on PS Now.
 
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