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The PS5 is making me hate PC Gaming (techradar article)

I play most of my PC games on a TV. You plug the hdmi cable, and you play, that's it.

I do, I don't care about others tho... Actually I have my PC connected to my TV and my monitor, so if I want to play M+K or controller, on the couch or the chair, I can have any combination of those... I guess Xbox Series will do something some time, I hope so at least

I do. Every day.
Dedicated gaming pc connected to a 65” OLED. Running Playnite.
All controlled with an Xbox One controller.
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Yeah I felt nauseous playing it but used it for testing displays.
Now that they improved the performance what are your fps above 1080p? Are you getting 60fps 1440p maxed?BTW I have a highly clocked 1080ti as well.
You should hold a solid 60, at that resolution I'm pretty sure. Just wish that game had the same optimization, as death stranding, as it is the same engine and all. One team did a great job, the other fumbled so hard.
 

Griffon

Member
Moe expensive games, paying subs for online play. Over 7 years the calculus isn't that advantageous (if you play many games like I do).

And besides, pc is backwards compatible with millions of games that go beyond just the PS4 generation.

All of that while having generally better graphics and frame rates, and the ability to use mods and a proper OS that can do a lot of things no other computing device can.


With that said, I guess consoles do have the easier accessibility with a simpler OS that only does a few things but is not fiddly (and the fact that current Covid prices of PC components is way higher than before...).

So in the end... Whatever just play on what you like folks, games are games.
 
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I feel exactly the same. I stopped upgrading my pc after the 1070. It felt like a bottomless pit where you have to throw money constantly because nothing is ever optimized properly for your machine. And that's when it even works and you don't spend hours tinkering with the parameters.

Nobody cares about optimizing for PC so your new shiny PC gets obsolete after 2 years. And you can't even run Sony exclusives, which mean you can't run most of the highest budget and best games (most games of the year are console exclusives these days).

It's just a waste of money.
I see another free from Nvidia's slavery. Good for you.
 
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What did this guy expect? Cyberpunk might be "unoptimized" on PC, but you can bet your ass a 3090 is still going to run it significantly better than a PS5. And the part about The Medium running like shit at low resolutions on PC... does this guy know it's running at 900p even on Xbox Series X?
I don't think that's the point; rather, it's that these gaming experiences have been massively disappointing no matter what hardware you have your hands on (be it poor optimization or whatever else) whereas most of the games on the PS5 they see as running great right out of the box and offering very high-quality experiences for the price tag.
 
I see another free from Nvidia's slavery. Good for you.
My "slavery" gives me performance that console warriors dream of. By warriors, I mean the people that are trying to convince themselves, and others, that their purchase was the best decision. When in reality, those who want the best experience, go with PC. You can still get a console if you want to play a handful of exclusives. But why would someone in their right mind, argue with people who have much better gaming experiences than you, in the same game?


"No, my checkerboard rendering @ 1440 w/ only raytraced shadows, looks much better than your native 4K, everything raytraced, AA, HBAO, volumetric fog, disabled chromatic aberration, etc".


We're not talking about buying a top of the line sports car here. We're talking about hardware that can be had for the same price of what you'd pay for your console and online gaming, in the same generation. And even then, pricing shouldn't be compared. You can only play games and movies, for the same price in a generation, that I could create a game, movie, etc, while doing so much more. "Dedicated gaming machine only" vs "dedicated gaming and dedicated everything else".

If it's jealousy that is your problem, hence your constant projecting, you can just ask us to help you build a PC. There's so many people in here that would love to open up your eyes to what gaming really should be like. PM me if you'd like to stop playing at low framerate, have so much better image quality, and the biggest upgrade to gaming.
 
My "slavery" gives me performance that console warriors dream of. By warriors, I mean the people that are trying to convince themselves, and others, that their purchase was the best decision. When in reality, those who want the best experience, go with PC. You can still get a console if you want to play a handful of exclusives. But why would someone in their right mind, argue with people who have much better gaming experiences than you, in the same game?


"No, my checkerboard rendering @ 1440 w/ only raytraced shadows, looks much better than your native 4K, everything raytraced, AA, HBAO, volumetric fog, disabled chromatic aberration, etc".


We're not talking about buying a top of the line sports car here. We're talking about hardware that can be had for the same price of what you'd pay for your console and online gaming, in the same generation. And even then, pricing shouldn't be compared. You can only play games and movies, for the same price in a generation, that I could create a game, movie, etc, while doing so much more. "Dedicated gaming machine only" vs "dedicated gaming and dedicated everything else".

If it's jealousy that is your problem, hence your constant projecting, you can just ask us to help you build a PC. There's so many people in here that would love to open up your eyes to what gaming really should be like. PM me if you'd like to stop playing at low framerate, have so much better image quality, and the biggest upgrade to gaming.
If it doesn't apply to you as you don't consider yourself a "slave" then why respond? I don't care what you think or how you view yourself. If that wasn't clear. I don't need your self reflection. But maybe...just maybe it does, despite your denial of it.. who knows...

As for all the other babble, whatever makes you sleep at night champ. Hopefully Cyberpunk lasts you well into the year and you milk each and every ounce of enjoyment out it until the next round of Bloodborne port begging commences. And that's the thing tho.. right? How can you have the best experience if you don't have the great games that you really want? Which obviously is a subjective topic but still to entertain the non-sense.

Is that why you enjoy trolling console gamers? Overcompensating misery? I got my theories but who cares right... you know what they say about depressed folk, how they vent out...

Thanks for the offer but I know how to build them. I have one. Not up to date of course but that's part of the side-effects of monopoly predatory pricing, and clearly being self-aware and not stupid enough to fall for it without the need.
 
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Did i hurt your sony worshiping heart there ? Relax, sony will keep making games that play themselves and have more cutscenes than gameplay. You're safe there.
Worshipping* I'm a grown man, not a weirdo teenager like i'd guess you are, so I don't have unwarranted hatred toward any company. If you wanna go full retard and pretend Sony is shit, ok then.
 
My "slavery" gives me performance that console warriors dream of. By warriors, I mean the people that are trying to convince themselves, and others, that their purchase was the best decision. When in reality, those who want the best experience, go with PC. You can still get a console if you want to play a handful of exclusives. But why would someone in their right mind, argue with people who have much better gaming experiences than you, in the same game?


"No, my checkerboard rendering @ 1440 w/ only raytraced shadows, looks much better than your native 4K, everything raytraced, AA, HBAO, volumetric fog, disabled chromatic aberration, etc".


We're not talking about buying a top of the line sports car here. We're talking about hardware that can be had for the same price of what you'd pay for your console and online gaming, in the same generation. And even then, pricing shouldn't be compared. You can only play games and movies, for the same price in a generation, that I could create a game, movie, etc, while doing so much more. "Dedicated gaming machine only" vs "dedicated gaming and dedicated everything else".

If it's jealousy that is your problem, hence your constant projecting, you can just ask us to help you build a PC. There's so many people in here that would love to open up your eyes to what gaming really should be like. PM me if you'd like to stop playing at low framerate, have so much better image quality, and the biggest upgrade to gaming.
You wrote 4 paragraphs and just about all of it is nonsense. Lol @ dismissing the price difference because "PC does more than game". Yes buddy, safe assumption that everyone knows that
 
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If it doesn't apply to you as you don't consider yourself a "slave" then why respond? I don't care what you think or how you view yourself. If that wasn't clear. I don't need your self reflection. But maybe...just maybe it does, despite your denial of it.. who knows...

As for all the other babble, whatever makes you sleep at night champ. Hopefully Cyberpunk lasts you well into the year and you milk each and every ounce of enjoyment out it until the next round of Bloodborne port begging commences. And that's the thing tho.. right? How can you have the best experience if you don't have the great games that you really want? Which obviously is a subjective topic but still to entertain the non-sense.

Is that why you enjoy trolling console gamers? Overcompensating misery? I got my theories but who cares right... you know what they say about depressed folk, how they vent out...

Thanks for the offer but I know how to build them. I have one. Not up to date of course but that's part of the side-effects of monopoly predatory pricing, and clearly being self-aware and not stupid enough to fall for it without the need.
You literally contradict yourself several times here. You act superior to PC gamers, then when proven wrong, you accuse me of trolling console gamers? How does that work?! 😂. Then you go on to say I'm missing out on the best games, missing out on the best experiences, to conclude with "Which obviously is a subjective topic". Do you even read what you write?


You do realize having a PC doesn't mean you can't own a console, right? Like, I could buy a ps5 if I wanted to. But there are no games out currently that are worth it, or any upcoming games, that are worth it. And the possibly few enticing games, are coming to PC anyways All the multiplats that are coming out, or currently out, play a world of a lot better on PC. This is not a matter of opinion, but a fact. I can play crossplay on a bunch of these same games, with a ps4, ps5, Xbox 360, xb1, xsx, dreamcast, n64, rockband microphone, or guitar hero drums, etc, but with better quality, framerate, resolution, and with lower latency.


The only person that needs to overcompensate here, is you. I could buy a ps5 if I wanted to. But you don't care to game on PC, even though it will play 99.5% of games better than your ps5. Especially as several of those exclusives, will be PC and ps5 exclusive, with PC being the leading platform. Again, if you need any help building one, hit one of us up. We're not trolling you guys, but we want you guys to see the light, like we once did, the first time we played on PC.
 
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You literally contradict yourself several times here. You act superior to PC gamers, then when proven wrong, you accuse me of trolling console gamers? How does that work?! 😂. Then you go on to say I'm missing out on the best games, missing out on the best experiences, to conclude with "Which obviously is a subjective topic". Do you even read what you write?


You do realize having a PC doesn't mean you can't own a console, right? Like, I could buy a ps5 if I wanted to. But there are no games out currently that are worth it, or any upcoming games, that are worth it. And the possibly few enticing games, are coming to PC anyways All the multiplats that are coming out, or currently out, play a world of a lot better on PC. This is not a matter of opinion, but a fact. I can play crossplay on a bunch of these same games, with a ps4, ps5, Xbox 360, xb1, xsx, dreamcast, n64, rockband microphone, or guitar hero drums, etc, but with better quality, framerate, resolution, and with lower latency.


The only person that needs to overcompensate here, is you. I could buy a ps5 if I wanted to. But you don't care to game on PC, even though it will play 99.5% of games better than your ps5. Especially as several of those exclusives, will be PC and ps5 exclusive, with PC being the leading platform. Again, if you need any help building one, hit one of us up. We're not trolling you guys, but we want you guys to see the light, like we once did, the first time we played on PC.
You respond to everyone with a novel, and everytime its nothing but drivel. The PCs capable of outperforming next gen systems like you are speaking cost 4-5x the price. If you just want to game and don't need to rub your little weiner to having better resolution, next gen is a great option. This isn't rocket science.

Also, if you take that PC dick out of your mouth to try to be objective, Sackboy, Astrobot, both Spiderman games, and Demon Souls are PS5 exclusive just months into launch and all are fantastic. And even on your "PC will run every game you have better" argument, The Medium on Xbox seems to be outperforming PCs that are more costly than the console.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
lol.. I love my PS5s but this article just seems like trolling.

Cyberpunk? The Medium? lol

A game currently unavailable on PS5 because of how bad the last-gen port was.. and a shit indie game currently only on Xbox/PC.

This guy needs to learn to turn down a few pointless settings. Cyberpunk looks and performs great on my 2070 w/ ancient CPU.
 
You literally contradict yourself several times here. You act superior to PC gamers, then when proven wrong, you accuse me of trolling console gamers? How does that work?! 😂. Then you go on to say I'm missing out on the best games, missing out on the best experiences, to conclude with "Which obviously is a subjective topic". Do you even read what you write?


You do realize having a PC doesn't mean you can't own a console, right? Like, I could buy a ps5 if I wanted to. But there are no games out currently that are worth it, or any upcoming games, that are worth it. And the possibly few enticing games, are coming to PC anyways All the multiplats that are coming out, or currently out, play a world of a lot better on PC. This is not a matter of opinion, but a fact. I can play crossplay on a bunch of these same games, with a ps4, ps5, Xbox 360, xb1, xsx, dreamcast, n64, rockband microphone, or guitar hero drums, etc, but with better quality, framerate, resolution, and with lower latency.


The only person that needs to overcompensate here, is you. I could buy a ps5 if I wanted to. But you don't care to game on PC, even though it will play 99.5% of games better than your ps5. Especially as several of those exclusives, will be PC and ps5 exclusive, with PC being the leading platform. Again, if you need any help building one, hit one of us up. We're not trolling you guys, but we want you guys to see the light, like we once did, the first time we played on PC.
But I game on PC, more so than I do on other console platforms like, say Xbox (if it wasn't that obvious). How can I be "superior" to something I'm a part of? Silly boy making up strawmans trying to fit me into a box you can dissect... one of your favorites on the commoners and you're clearly bad at it.

I've said however I do not identify with the PCMR psyche, and I critique it often. Obviously folks who do identify with it (whether publicly or not) and stake their personal identity on it take offense at any and all criticism of the current state of PC gaming, as well as its market players. I'm primarily a console gamer however, growing up on Nintendo and mostly PS in my adult life. I've my preference.

Try again junior. You're arguing with yourself.
 
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But I game on PC, more so than I do on other console platforms like, say Xbox (if it wasn't that obvious). How can I be "superior" to something I'm a part of? Silly boy making up strawmans trying to fit me into a box you can dissect... one of your favorites on the commoners and you're clearly bad at it.

I've said however I do not identify with the PCMR psyche, and I critique it often. Obviously folks who do identify with it (whether publicly or not) and stake their personal identity on it take offense at any and all criticism of the current state of PC gaming, as well as its market players. I'm primarily a console gamer however, growing up on Nintendo and mostly PS in my adult life.

Try again junior. You're arguing with yourself.
Again, moving the goal posts. Changing the subject from your original claim. And now possibly have and alt account to shill for you. You can't counter not one of my points yet. Take this L bro and move on.
 
Again, moving the goal posts. Changing the subject from your original claim. And now possibly have and alt account to shill for you. You can't counter not one of my points yet. Take this L bro and move on.
Except you ignore all the counterpoints that have been made and continue to be resident retard of the thread who just wants to argue
 
Except you ignore all the counterpoints that have been made and continue to be resident retard of the thread who just wants to argue
What have you said again besides insulting me? I usually ignore posts like that so I don't end up getting banned for completely defecating on you. So again, what's your point? PC can do so much more, which is why it's costlier up front, but you get better performance, save money on games, don't have to pay for multiplayer, and don't get shafted on having to deal with one or two modes: performance or quality, and several other reasons which have been repeated over and over. You still can't tell me why I should get a ps5 for 99.5% of the games that people play? Why would I want to torture myself with low framerate, worse visuals, NO VRR?!?! Why would I downgrade?
 
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Again, moving the goal posts. Changing the subject from your original claim. And now possibly have and alt account to shill for you. You can't counter not one of my points yet. Take this L bro and move on.
What you talking about silly? You've gotten so deranged and entangled in your own strawmans that somehow the "fake" persona you've built up of me is supposedly moving the goalposts? Are you cray?

Now you're going to defecate on a random? The hell? My sides...
 
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Vaelka

Member
People keep talking about price but how often do you actually upgrade?
And when you do it's rarely all parts at once, it's really not that expensive after the initial buy in.


And people also tend to ignore the fact that you use your PC for more than just gaming.
PC games also tend to have more longevity too while console games ( particularly on PS5 ) have far less replay-value and are '' ExPerIeNcEs '' ( movie games ).
I've spent 1.5k hours on TW Warhammer 2 alone, if you want to talk about money then how many hours do people get out of GoW for example?
How many games would you have to buy on PS5 to really get 1.5k hours of entertainment out of it?
And there's countless of F2P games you can get more than that.
 
What have you said again besides insulting me? I usually ignore posts like that so I don't end up getting banned for completely defecating on you. So again, what's your point? PC can do so much more, which is why it's costlier up front, but you get better performance, save money on games, don't have to pay for multiplayer, and don't get shafted on having to deal with one or two modes: performance or quality, and several other reasons which have been repeated over and over. You still can't tell me why I should get a ps5 for 99.5% of the games that people play? Why would I want to torture myself with low framerate, worse visuals, NO VRR?!?! Why would I downgrade?
You know what i've said. You read the posts. But when you get the "counterpoints" you talked about the other person not having, you just ignore it and look for someone easier to bash.

Wow PCs cost more but perform better?! You are enlightening the thread with this information.

Why would I tell you why you should get a PS5? If you have determined its not worth it for you, than don't. Some people just want to game and are ok with paying 4x less for a next gen console, especially if they are into the Sony exclusives.

Stop trying to shit on people for not sharing your "next gen is garbage PC so good" opinion. You've done nothing but come off like a loser.
 
What you talking about silly? You've gotten so deranged and entangled in your own strawmans that somehow the "fake" persona you've built up of me is supposedly moving the goalposts? Are you cray?
You said ps5 is better than most gaming PC's, moved the subject to better games, then now you are going some other route. Yeah dude, go back at your posts, and see who is the crazy person. Let's tackle each of your incorrect claims, one by one. First one was proven wrong. You even said better games is subjective, so you countered your second point, aaaaand here we are now...
 
He'll be crawling back in a few years when his little console toys are outdated and write a fresh article about his renewed love of PC gaming.
What if it's love till death do them part?

I mean the prospects of not having to port beg for great quality exclusives, not having to wait for the timed exclusives to arrive, or dealing with bad ports or being on the third-party diet is something that could change a gamer for life.
 
People keep talking about price but how often do you actually upgrade?
And when you do it's rarely all parts at once, it's really not that expensive after the initial buy in.


And people also tend to ignore the fact that you use your PC for more than just gaming.
PC games also tend to have more longevity too while console games ( particularly on PS5 ) have far less replay-value and are '' ExPerIeNcEs '' ( movie games ).
I've spent 1.5k hours on TW Warhammer 2 alone, if you want to talk about money then how many hours do people get out of GoW for example?
How many games would you have to buy on PS5 to really get 1.5k hours of entertainment out of it?
And there's countless of F2P games you can get more than that.
Why do all the PC people like yourself act like such cunts?

No one is ignoring PCs do more than game. Thats as common sense as it gets. No need to pretend they do to try to make some weird argument.

Some people would rather play Spiderman than Warhammer 2. If you can't fathom why, than that level of stupidity is on you. And you seem like you'll be shocked to hear this, but PS5 has multiplayer games, so yes 1.5k hours on it isn't unfathomable.
 
You know what i've said. You read the posts. But when you get the "counterpoints" you talked about the other person not having, you just ignore it and look for someone easier to bash.

Wow PCs cost more but perform better?! You are enlightening the thread with this information.

Why would I tell you why you should get a PS5? If you have determined its not worth it for you, than don't. Some people just want to game and are ok with paying 4x less for a next gen console, especially if they are into the Sony exclusives.

Stop trying to shit on people for not sharing your "next gen is garbage PC so good" opinion. You've done nothing but come off like a loser.
So no counterpoints to why it's better.... Who said you need to pay 4x as much to get better performance? 3060 ti and a basic cpu will do so much more for not even double the price. And many have said they don't care for Sony exclusives. It's only a fraction of the games that the majority of the world plays, especially more than a few hours of. And having a PC for all games and a ps5 for exclusives, was already started in a previous post of mine.

You've done nothing but come off like a whiny brat so far. Counter one of my points at least, like PC is the best place to play for 99% of games released this upcoming generation.
 

Kadayi

Banned
People keep talking about price but how often do you actually upgrade?
And when you do it's rarely all parts at once, it's really not that expensive after the initial buy in.


And people also tend to ignore the fact that you use your PC for more than just gaming.
PC games also tend to have more longevity too while console games ( particularly on PS5 ) have far less replay-value and are '' ExPerIeNcEs '' ( movie games ).
I've spent 1.5k hours on TW Warhammer 2 alone, if you want to talk about money then how many hours do people get out of GoW for example?
How many games would you have to buy on PS5 to really get 1.5k hours of entertainment out of it?
And there's countless of F2P games you can get more than that.

Careful there Budd, you're talking too much sense. This is the PS5 we are talking about here. Sony can do no wrong, and it represents the very pinnacle of gaming in all facets. FACT, and you'd be a fool and a communist for suggesting otherwise.

Don't be coming at me with any of this Strategy game BS either no one but neckbeards play those and they don't matter. In fact, the less said about them the better.
 
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So no counterpoints to why it's better.... Who said you need to pay 4x as much to get better performance? 3060 ti and a basic cpu will do so much more for not even double the price. And many have said they don't care for Sony exclusives. It's only a fraction of the games that the majority of the world plays, especially more than a few hours of. And having a PC for all games and a ps5 for exclusives, was already started in a previous post of mine.

You've done nothing but come off like a whiny brat so far. Counter one of my points at least, like PC is the best place to play for 99% of games released this upcoming generation.
Better in what way? You pay 4x the price for a PC compared to PS5. Are you expecting me to argue something that much cheaper is "better" in terms of the machine's performance?

No. You aren't getting a PC capable of 4k, 60fps, raytracing, etc for $400 or close to it. Saying "you just need basic cpu" is very stupid, and just wrong.

"Many have said they don't care for Sony exclusives" LMFAOOOOO ok? What does that have to do with anything? lmfaoooo. Plenty of people love Sony exclusives. Was you saying some don't supposed to hold some sort of merit to the silly arguments you make?

I've countered all your "points". Most you ignored in previous posts of mine cause you just wanna argue and will lower yourselves to retardation like "Many have said they dont like Sony exclusives" in effort to achieve that. At the end of the day, love your PC all you want. Good for you. That doesn't make it the right option for everyone.
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
Looks sick bro! Hopefully you aren't like that dude who beats off his meat at least 7 times a day in the off topic thread. Cause I noticed hand sanitizer, vape juice, and isopropyl alcohol, as the only lubricants in the room. If so, rip to your stick. Nice setup on the other hand.

i like how when you see a room you are just immediately scanning it for lube lmao
 
You said ps5 is better than most gaming PC's, moved the subject to better games, then now you are going some other route. Yeah dude, go back at your posts, and see who is the crazy person. Let's tackle each of your incorrect claims, one by one. First one was proven wrong. You even said better games is subjective, so you countered your second point, aaaaand here we are now...
Lmao. I stand by both silly, and both claims were made within a single post. Nothing has been proven wrong or countered. Specially not the nonsense Topher brought up. Folks can have different opinions than mine. That is what has happened.

Chill a bit and stop trying to intimidate a neo member as if you're going to do something to him when you're a harmless troll. Pushing that Gaf Gold to the limit.
 
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Better in what way? You pay 4x the price for a PC compared to PS5. Are you expecting me to argue something that much cheaper is "better" in terms of the machine's performance?

No. You aren't getting a PC capable of 4k, 60fps, raytracing, etc for $400 or close to it. Saying "you just need basic cpu" is very stupid, and just wrong.

"Many have said they don't care for Sony exclusives" LMFAOOOOO ok? What does that have to do with anything? lmfaoooo. Plenty of people love Sony exclusives. Was you saying some don't supposed to hold some sort of merit to the silly arguments you make?

I've countered all your "points". Most you ignored in previous posts of mine cause you just wanna argue and will lower yourselves to retardation like "Many have said they dont like Sony exclusives" in effort to achieve that. At the end of the day, love your PC all you want. Good for you. That doesn't make it the right option for everyone.
You aren't getting a console at $500 with native 4k, 60fps, with full raytracing enabled, not at "$400 for the few that own digital console" or $500. On console or PC. You countered yourself with that. Everything else is also false.


As consoles try to be more like PC, and more Sony exclusives come to PC, why wouldn't they go to PC? A 3060 ti beats a ps5 easily already. And we haven't started on the high end cards, or 4000 or 5000 series. I don't see why someone would stuffer with 99% of games, to enjoy 1% of games, when 99% of those games will have worse performance. People can always buy a ps5 in a few years to play those 1% of games while enjoying the 99% of games %1000% better.
 
You aren't getting a console at $500 with native 4k, 60fps, with full raytracing enabled, not at "$400 for the few that own digital console" or $500. On console or PC. You countered yourself with that. Everything else is also false.


As consoles try to be more like PC, and more Sony exclusives come to PC, why wouldn't they go to PC? A 3060 ti beats a ps5 easily already. And we haven't started on the high end cards, or 4000 or 5000 series. I don't see why someone would stuffer with 99% of games, to enjoy 1% of games, when 99% of those games will have worse performance. People can always buy a ps5 in a few years to play those 1% of games while enjoying the 99% of games %1000% better.
Why do you keep trying to argue? PS5 can't do what a PC that costs 4x-5x more can do? No kidding. We've been over this, no one is going to argue a much more expensive PC is less powerful. Now if you wanna try to argue for the price the PS5's performance is shit, have at it, and that would certainly be some nonsense easy to counter.

"More Sony exclusives coming to PC" like what? Don't try to argue by making shit up. We're like 3 months into next gen and Spidermans, Demon Souls, Sackboy, Astrobot, are all exclusive. Returnal out in 1.5 months is another one. Don't say general, baseless shit, lets hear your examples. And i'm starting to believe you're like 14 years old, cause "why wouldn't they go to PC?" is some childish shit lol its a little thing called money that Sony gives to make these games exclusives.

You don't see why someone only interested in gaming would pay 4-5x less for a machine with impressive capabilities and certain exclusive titles that are raved about? Lol ok bro. You need to grow up and realize you aren't the only person in the world.
 
So-called "AAA gaming" on PC is dead. Well, it's alive if you count Star Citizen. Otherwise, the "AAA"s you get are built with consoles in mind and upscaled to PC. Notice how the modern conversation for PC gaming nowadays -- compared to 20 years ago -- is about how much better the console games run on PC. When I grew up playing PC in the 90s and 00s (I'm outta PC nowadays), we were bragging about games that literally cannot run on consoles and can only run on PC. I think that still exists, to a certain degree, but mostly in the realm of PC VR.

This is because the expensive part of videogame development does NOT come from "maxing out the game". The expensive and time-consuming part is the asset generation. The assets are so incredibly expensive that you cannot afford to only put it on one platform. Otherwise you end up with financial disasters like Bioware's Old Republic MMO. So while devs could take full advantage of PC hardware, they have very little financial incentive to do so. Instead, the PC hardware companies shoulder the burden of brute-forcing for these devs so that the games look much better on PC than on the consoles they were designed for.

I don't have a PS5. I dunno if I'll get one. I have some reservations. With that said, I completely understand the OP's core gripe. it is why I quit PC gaming ~6 years ago.
This is also me. Back in the 90s I played Duke, Quake, Doom, Wolf and the Sierra adventures and rts games. All games not on consoles. Once consoles got em I bailes on pc. But the memories.... So many memories.
 
Why do you keep trying to argue? PS5 can't do what a PC that costs 4x-5x more can do? No kidding. We've been over this, no one is going to argue a much more expensive PC is less powerful. Now if you wanna try to argue for the price the PS5's performance is shit, have at it, and that would certainly be some nonsense easy to counter.

"More Sony exclusives coming to PC" like what? Don't try to argue by making shit up. We're like 3 months into next gen and Spidermans, Demon Souls, Sackboy, Astrobot, are all exclusive. Returnal out in 1.5 months is another one. Don't say general, baseless shit, lets hear your examples. And i'm starting to believe you're like 14 years old, cause "why wouldn't they go to PC?" is some childish shit lol its a little thing called money that Sony gives to make these games exclusives.

You don't see why someone only interested in gaming would pay 4-5x less for a machine with impressive capabilities and certain exclusive titles that are raved about? Lol ok bro. You need to grow up and realize you aren't the only person in the world.
You've missed the point that I directly quoted you on. Reread. 3060 ti. No where near 4-5x as expensive. Why do you keep avoiding the fact that you don't need 2x the price of a ps5 to get better performance. Pricing was brought up, and PC can be even cheaper in the outcome if you take into account, the absorbent amounts you pay for games, online subscriptions, high priced DLC, buying the same game twice or even three times, etc. Not to mention it there's a slim version or a pro version down the line.
 
You've missed the point that I directly quoted you on. Reread. 3060 ti. No where near 4-5x as expensive. Why do you keep avoiding the fact that you don't need 2x the price of a ps5 to get better performance. Pricing was brought up, and PC can be even cheaper in the outcome if you take into account, the absorbent amounts you pay for games, online subscriptions, high priced DLC, buying the same game twice or even three times, etc. Not to mention it there's a slim version or a pro version down the line.
I tried potatoing my pc in the past. It was not as good as my console and i still had to tweak shit. I loved tweaking shit when I was younger but I'm in my mid 30s and don't have the time for that anymore. Curse of aging.
 
You've missed the point that I directly quoted you on. Reread. 3060 ti. No where near 4-5x as expensive. Why do you keep avoiding the fact that you don't need 2x the price of a ps5 to get better performance. Pricing was brought up, and PC can be even cheaper in the outcome if you take into account, the absorbent amounts you pay for games, online subscriptions, high priced DLC, buying the same game twice or even three times, etc. Not to mention it there's a slim version or a pro version down the line.
lmfaoooooo bro you're listing solely a graphics card that comes at the same price as a console. Lets ignore every other aspect of a PC, cause according to you, "just get basic cpu" lolll surely you're trolling at this point right? Either that or you are oblivious to how dumb you are.

The most glorious part is immediately following the sentence about the 3060 ti, you talk about "performance". Do you think its that 3060 ti thats solely driving a PCs performance? lmfaooo

Just stop bro. Enjoy your PC, stop trying to argue and bash people, cause if you aren't trolling you have no idea how stupid you sound.

EDIT Oh, and its HILARIOUS you quote people going "you can't counter any of my points", while being a hypocrite and pick and choosing what you respond to and how you respond to it. Why didn't you answer me about those nameless PS exclusives that are coming to PC like you said? Lmfaooo
 
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lmfaoooooo bro you're listing solely a graphics card that comes at the same price as a console. Lets ignore every other aspect of a PC, cause according to you, "just get basic cpu" lolll surely you're trolling at this point right? Either that or you are oblivious to how dumb you are.

The most glorious part is immediately following the sentence about the 3060 ti, you talk about "performance". Do you think its that 3060 ti thats solely driving a PCs performance? lmfaooo

Just stop bro. Enjoy your PC, stop trying to argue and bash people, cause if you aren't trolling you have no idea how stupid you sound.
Keep insulting me kid, I doubt you will be here long.... Notice how I don't need to insult you, to display your lack of intelligence in this discussion.


Of course you need a cpu, but with next gen consoles struggling to even home 120fps, it's hard to side with you, when gamers nexus and others showed "basic" cheap cpu's holding better framerates in crossgen games then next gen consoles, specifically ps5.

With a basic cheap cpu, paired with a 3060 ti, the PC had much better performance than ps5. That's not downplaying it or trolling. That's just going by the facts. Not everyone it's open minded to game on PC. Just like there are people who can't replace a dead battery in their car, or can't change a flat tire, and need to call AAA/roadside assistance. I understand there is a convenience factor to it all, but some things are so basic, there's no excuse to not knowing how to plug the red cable into the red slot, etc.
 
Enough with the infantile insults. Discuss like an adult.
Keep insulting me kid, I doubt you will be here long.... Notice how I don't need to insult you, to display your lack of intelligence in this discussion.


Of course you need a cpu, but with next gen consoles struggling to even home 120fps, it's hard to side with you, when gamers nexus and others showed "basic" cheap cpu's holding better framerates in crossgen games then next gen consoles, specifically ps5.

With a basic cheap cpu, paired with a 3060 ti, the PC had much better performance than ps5. That's not downplaying it or trolling. That's just going by the facts. Not everyone it's open minded to game on PC. Just like there are people who can't replace a dead battery in their car, or can't change a flat tire, and need to call AAA/roadside assistance. I understand there is a convenience factor to it all, but some things are so basic, there's no excuse to not knowing how to plug the red cable into the red slot, etc.
Whats wrong? You can dish it but can't take it? To be fair, everything you've said is really stupid though, its not an insult.

"Of course you need a cpu" lmfaoooooo than why did you ignore that and just list a graphics card that costs the same as next gen consoles? Did you think "just get basic cpu" was some sort of legit argument? lmfaooooooo this is just getting funny now kid. If you aren't the complete moron you come off as, maybe list everything you need to build a PC and the specific parts you would buy to compete with PS5 and lets see how the prices add up. No more "jUsT gEt bAsIc cPu" retardation from you.


"Not everyone is open minded to game on PC" LMFAOAOAOOAOAO wtf does this mean? Seriously kid, are you like 13 years old? Cause who is so close minded they wouldn't wanna try gaming on a high powered 4 figure PC besides maybe your child friends? And lmfaoaoao @ comparing this to being able to change your car tire like what lmfaoaoaoaoa. You say so much general stupid shit to try to argue with lollll
 
I can't get over the fact that people seem to ignore this every time the price debate comes up.
"Wow, first payment on my mortgage is smaller than your one time payment! What a steal! "
That is always the fact that comes to when people being up price. You can't neglect upfront costs, especially when overall costs can come up to the same, and many times more.
 
I can't get over the fact that people seem to ignore this every time the price debate comes up.
"Wow, first payment on my mortgage is smaller than your one time payment! What a steal! "
Maybe cause you're wrong. I won't argue the $10 price hike on certain PS5 titles if thats what you're talking about, even though i'm sure I could argue depending on how many games you play or buy a year it won't significantly effect you, especially when its not for every PS5 game.

But on the 2nd point. The "you pay for online". Over 5 years ps+ will cost me $150, and I get amazing free games to go along with it. How exactly does $150 over 5 years somehow play into any argument when a PC that can equivalently run games is going to cost 4-5x more than next gen console?
 
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