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Microsoft is Looking to Make another Bethesda Size Acquisition

1. Timed exclusives: platform holder pays publisher to delay game on competing platforms.
End result: competing platforms get the game later.

2. Massive third party publisher buyout: all IPs from publisher become exclusive to one platform holder.
End result: competing platforms will never see those IPs again.

People really have to be stupid to believe that alternative 2 is somehow better for consumers.
Microsoft at least will release all of their games simultaneously on PC(The most important thing ever)
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
1. Timed exclusives: platform holder pays publisher to delay game on competing platforms.
End result: competing platforms get the game later.

2. Massive third party publisher buyout: all IPs from publisher become exclusive to one platform holder.
End result: competing platforms will never see those IPs again.

People really have to be stupid to believe that alternative 2 is somehow better for consumers.
what about paid exclusives that Sony does? street fighter? stuff like that
 

Bridges

Member
1. Timed exclusives: platform holder pays publisher to delay game on competing platforms.
End result: competing platforms get the game later.

2. Massive third party publisher buyout: all IPs from publisher become exclusive to one platform holder.
End result: competing platforms will never see those IPs again.

People really have to be stupid to believe that alternative 2 is somehow better for consumers.
Were you mad when Sony bought Insomniac?
 
Call of duty is the only thing I think could make a real difference.
It's strange people still think this is about selling more consoles than Sony, it isn't!

This is about content for Gpass, it's all future proofing as the industry transitions from the old buy a console and 5 or 6 games a year.
 
lol ms is like
fetchimage
 

MonarchJT

Banned
1. Timed exclusives: platform holder pays publisher to delay game on competing platforms.
End result: competing platforms get the game later.

2. Massive third party publisher buyout: all IPs from publisher become exclusive to one platform holder.
End result: competing platforms will never see those IPs again.

People really have to be stupid to believe that alternative 2 is somehow better for consumers.
the First is 70 euro for each game the second is a reasonable 15 euro monthly for 282+ games and all the future games from acquisitions

and btw stop acting stupid the consequence of having games delayed for years is that people buy the platform where the games come out first or have some sort of enhancement in the long run this implies a difference in userbase and in the end you will have the third party that snub the console with less user. this is what happened
 
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DavidGzz

Member
1. Timed exclusives: platform holder pays publisher to delay game on competing platforms.
End result: competing platforms get the game later.

2. Massive third party publisher buyout: all IPs from publisher become exclusive to one platform holder.
End result: competing platforms will never see those IPs again.

People really have to be stupid to believe that alternative 2 is somehow better for consumers.

If Sony could they would so either way. "Why buy an Xbox when all they have is Forza, Halo, and Gears?" MS is changing that, big time, and now people are kicking and screaming. Laugh at Xbox and now that Phil is getting serious people lose their minds. It may suck for people who want to be PS only but it's business.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Would be cool if they used their money to actually build and enhance their own studios so we get more games. Seems all they are is paying bilions of money to just keep PS owners from games.

As someone who has a PC, this is a waste to me since I’d be getting these games anyway.

Exactly. Apparently this is too hard for some people to understand. Instead of being excited about the games they get to play, they are more interested in seeing MS locking content from PlayStation.

MS was already going to get all the Bethesda games anyway on Xbox -- unless Sony funded a Bethesda game which was extremely unlikely. Now, nothing has changed for MS, but Xbox fans are rejoicing after MS acquired Bethesda. They will still get the same games. The only difference is that PS owners won't get those games, and that's what makes Xbox fanboys happy. It's pathetic.

Instead, MS should have focused on creating new studios, new jobs, and new games for Xbox, and growing the gaming industry. That'd have been in addition to Bethesda titles that were going to be released on Xbox anyway. And that'd mean Xbox users would have gotten a lot more games.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
Pathetic. Use your billions to build your own studios you lazy fucks.
How's it pathetic? i imagine there's a helluva lot goes into starting up a game studio from scratch then waiting 4-5years to see if you're gonna get a ROI, smart move is to buy an established player and its IP's. Xbox snaggin Bethesda really done my head in as a Sony fan, that means my favourite series is now locked behind Gamepass and will require me to purchase another console just to play it, something i simply wont do, i don't game enough to get value from an additional console so now i gotta sit out a next gen Elder Scrolls & Starfield.. cunts lol, now they're on the prowl again.. this has me worried i may lose another franchise ffs but I'm not going to diss MS for simply beefing up their catalogue
 
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This shows again how much trust they have in their own studios, close to zero. And unfortunately some of the studios they bought were not the same they have been before. For example Rare, which is only a shadow of itself.

I am still surprised why they still manufacture consoles. They make their money through game pass and don't care of players play on XBOX or PC. So why not just went back to be a pure software company and sell the game pass.
 

onesvenus

Member
MS was already going to get all the Bethesda games anyway on Xbox -- unless Sony funded a Bethesda game which was extremely unlikely. Now, nothing has changed for MS, but Xbox fans are rejoicing after MS acquired Bethesda. They will still get the same games. The only difference is that PS owners won't get those games, and that's what makes Xbox fanboys happy. It's pathetic.
That's not what makes Xbox fanboys happy.
Having Bethesda games exclusive to the platform means more people buying that platform (either Gamepass or Xbox). That makes the platform more attractive to other publishers, making their games coming to that platform a no-brainer. More games coming to the platform IS what makes Xbox fanboys happy.
I don't care if PS gets the same games or not, what I don't want is another publisher not porting their game to my platform of choice.
 
If Sony could they would so either way. "Why buy an Xbox when all they have is Forza, Halo, and Gears?" MS is changing that, big time, and now people are kicking and screaming. Laugh at Xbox and now that Phil is getting serious people lose their minds. It may suck for people who want to be PS only but it's business.


Now the biggest issue, problem that Xbox will have games and have tons of studios?! But before they were sayi..wait whaa??! The retardation of fanboysism salt levels you won't see anywhere else..you can't make this shit up, you catch it first hand on gaf folks.

Heavily trembling, shaking in your open toe sandals, crocs or whatever have you its not a pretty picture..we get that, but its Reality and business..if y'all need a 🫂 we might work something out 😉
 

MonarchJT

Banned
Exactly. Apparently this is too hard for some people to understand. Instead of being excited about the games they get to play, they are more interested in seeing MS locking content from PlayStation.

MS was already going to get all the Bethesda games anyway on Xbox -- unless Sony funded a Bethesda game which was extremely unlikely. Now, nothing has changed for MS, but Xbox fans are rejoicing after MS acquired Bethesda. They will still get the same games. The only difference is that PS owners won't get those games, and that's what makes Xbox fanboys happy. It's pathetic.

Instead, MS should have focused on creating new studios, new jobs, and new games for Xbox, and growing the gaming industry. That'd have been in addition to Bethesda titles that were going to be released on Xbox anyway. And that'd mean Xbox users would have gotten a lot more games.
it takes 15 years to grow studios capable of supporting gamepass. do not be ridiculous
 
This shows again how much trust they have in their own studios, close to zero. And unfortunately some of the studios they bought were not the same they have been before. For example Rare, which is only a shadow of itself.

I am still surprised why they still manufacture consoles. They make their money through game pass and don't care of players play on XBOX or PC. So why not just went back to be a pure software company and sell the game pass.
Another joke post, keep them coming giving me a right laugh this morning lol
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
You can play them on your Xbox. Almost all of FFs ( sonner or later FF XVI) Ridge Racer Unbound and who knows how many Tekkens. Yeah, right
You can now but back in the day Sony paid so they couldn’t be on any other console. Just befor the start of this gen there was a post about news of Sony trying to money hat a load of games for exclusivity to PlayStation and it was applauded by all Sony fans here. Now Microsoft doing their thing they get lambasted as usual
 

DavidGzz

Member
You must plant and nurture studios and wait 15 years to see the fruits of your love and care all while Sony fanboys laugh and say, yeah, we're waaaaitttting for MS games to come out some time this century....or just pull out that fat wallet. Phil chose the smart path.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Pathetic. Use your billions to build your own studios you lazy fucks.
Naughty Dog
Guerilla
Sucker Punch
Media Molecule
Insomniac
Zipper (dead)
Evolution (dead)
Psygnosis (Sony Liverpool) (dead)

All bought out studios. Aside from Gran Turismo, God of War and their annual baseball game, every one of their other heavy hitters came from third party devs they opened the wallet for.

Sony even paid 100s of million of dollars to buy Gaikai and On Live's patents, which collectively helped them do game streaming.
 
You can now but back in the day Sony paid so they couldn’t be on any other console.

Some games, not every IP from one developer

Just befor the start of this gen there was a post about news of Sony trying to money hat a load of games for exclusivity to PlayStation and it was applauded by all Sony fans here. Now Microsoft doing their thing they get lambasted as usual

Timed exclusives. TIMED. That huge difference compared to buying a publisher. If you don't understand that difference, you have a problem. You, Xbox community applauding THAT.
 
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DavidGzz

Member
Some games, not every IP from one developer



Timed exclusives. TIMED. That huge difference compared to buying a publisher. If you don't understand that difference, you have a problem

You do what you can afford. Sony can't throw billions around like MS. You're pardoning one practice because it takes more money, timed or not, it sucks for one side. Plus, Streets of Beige just posted how Sony has done the same thing, just because they can't afford something like Bethesda doesn't make them any better.
 
1. Timed exclusives: platform holder pays publisher to delay game on competing platforms.
End result: competing platforms get the game later.

2. Massive third party publisher buyout: all IPs from publisher become exclusive to one platform holder.
End result: competing platforms will never see those IPs again.

People really have to be stupid to believe that alternative 2 is somehow better for consumers.

Yeah, there's always these bullshit false equivalencies when this happens. When MS bought Zenimax I even read a non-zero number of people saying that it was equivalent to the Spider-Man in Avengers exclusive character.

I had no problem with MS buying smaller companies who were obviously in poor financial shape, like Ninja Theory, Obsidian or inXile. But buying mega-publishers is a fucking awful precedent and will A) make things worse for a large part of the industry, and B) possibly encourage other publishers to do the same, which means we end up with accelerated industry consolidation.
 

DavidGzz

Member
Yeah, there's always these bullshit false equivalencies when this happens. When MS bought Zenimax I even read a non-zero number of people saying that it was equivalent to the Spider-Man in Avengers exclusive character.

I had no problem with MS buying smaller companies who were obviously in poor financial shape, like Ninja Theory, Obsidian or inXile. But buying mega-publishers is a fucking awful precedent and will A) make things worse for a large part of the industry, and B) possibly encourage other publishers to do the same, which means we end up with accelerated industry consolidation.

Something I just thought of, what if they are doing it to make sure Amazon and Google don't? I know who I'd want to win that bidding war. A streaming only service or a console/pc/mobile service? Xbox over Stadia and Luna all the way.

Imagine if this was a MS/Sony merger. That would be sick and Amazon and Google can get fucked at that point.
 
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FritzJ92

Member
Sony is playing the same game as Microsoft except they have to stay within their budget.
After the Xbox 360 era Microsoft said they’d stop paying for timed exclusives and timed DLC unless they published the game, Sony took the opportunity to double down and that’s how we got the whole XB1 era. This Gen MS has taken the platinum card off the table and started swiping within their budget (which Sony unfortunately can’t compete with) and people are upset about that?

I’m going to also assume some of you guys and gals are too young to remember Sony from the early days and even recent past. They have bough studios also to expand their IP and portfolio, again within their budget.

If Sony could afford to buy bigger publishers and lock down more expensive IPs for themselves, you think they wouldn’t?
 
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Calverz

Member
So basically a Twitter rando, just on another form of social media. 😂

Bad site writes bad rumormongering article because MATT said so, and people start chugging that koolaid. This kind of stuff is getting hilarious.

I'm outta here, have fun 😂
Bye bye.
 

Orpheum

Member
Watch these mofos buy Ubisoft or Activision/Blizzard. Jesus Christ how much of the industry do they want to buy
 
Something I just thought of, what if they are doing it to make sure Amazon and Google don't? I know who I'd want to win that bidding war. A streaming only service or a console/pc/mobile service? Xbox over Stadia and Luna all the way.

Imagine if this was a MS/Sony merger. That would be sick and Amazon and Google can get fucked at that point.

Yeah, MS would be preferable to Google or Amazon but neither choice is great. That's like electing to step on a plug over a drawing pin.

A merger between Playstation and Xbox would actually be awesome but I guess it would never happen. Combining the two would easily create the biggest and possibly best publisher the industry has ever seen, and each could bolster the other's weaknesses.
 
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