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Xbox Game Pass now has over 18 million subscribers

Zheph

Member
Sounds like something someone who downplays anything Xbox would say. You're talking about Neogaf here? LOL
In general, NeoGaf is just one website... and how crazy it is that there are more PS players than Xbox players... WOW LOL.
 

Zheph

Member
Link me to the site where Xbox is overhyped. I just saw a thread about this being the GOAT month for PS+ because of Control. Now that's hype!
Sounds like something someone who downplays anything PS would say. (It's easy, isn't it? have a good day)
 

DavidGzz

Member
Sounds like something someone who downplays anything PS would say. (It's easy, isn't it? have a good day)

Nah, just a PS fan that thinks Dark Souls, Demon's Souls etc were much better months than a Control month. But it's just a matter of opinion so I was mostly joking hence the tongue emoji.
 

Zheph

Member
Nah, just a PS fan that thinks Dark Souls, Demon's Souls etc were much better months than a Control month. But it's just a matter of opinion so I was mostly joking hence the tongue emoji.
I was waiting for the PS5 patch to buy it so that's sweet for me but of course they can't compete with From Softwares Games, I agree with you but its personal opinions.
 
Link me to the site where Xbox is overhyped. I just saw a thread about this being the GOAT month for PS+ because of Control. Now that's hype!
Maybe misterxmedia forum? IGN said that with XSS you can get a faster CPU at half the price compared to PS5?
 
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S0ULZB0URNE

Member
I know people who were still paying month to month for Gold at $10. Add $5 to that for Gold AND GP and it's a no-brainer. Again, casuals will pay it without batting an eye and not cancel. There are people who barely use Netflix and keep paying. Planet Fitness also uses the same formula. Make it so cheap that people don't feel like canceling. We are never going to agree, you guys give too much credit to the casual market that makes up the vast majority of console gamers. $15b in revenue and you all think most if not all people did the $1 conversion. Whatever.
Casuals?
They don't know what Gamepass is.
 

DJTHEGREY

Member
Oh you're wrong,. They all have high.end PC's to go along with their Playstations. It is known.
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S0ULZB0URNE

Member
Yep, 18 of the 50 million Xbox owners are HARDCORE. My ass. You're 100% right if you're talking about PS Now, even the hardcore barely know what it is.
18 million is inflated and kinda low if we include all the devices it's on.

If casuals supported it the numbers would be higher.
PSnow has nothing to do with this gamepass discussion.
 

DavidGzz

Member
18 million is inflated and kinda low if we include all the devices it's on.

If casuals supported it the numbers would be higher.
PSnow has nothing to do with this gamepass discussion.

So I hear it's actually illegal to inflate those numbers because it was info that investors use. So it's more than 18 million, actually. So yeah, wrong again man. You're not having a discussion, you just troll Xbox threads and anyone who doesn't join you.
 

S0ULZB0URNE

Member
So I hear it's actually illegal to inflate those numbers because it was info that investors use. So it's more than 18 million, actually. So yeah, wrong again man. You're not having a discussion, you just troll Xbox threads and anyone who doesn't join you.
It's in the wording go back a page or two and see what MS actually said.

As I stated even 18 million is kinda low considering all the devices It's on.

You said casuals a few times but the market gp is available on is hardcore which the numbers reflect.

To actually get casuals on board they would need to have gp on the more casual friendly consoles.
 

DavidGzz

Member
It's in the wording go back a page or two and see what MS actually said.

As I stated even 18 million is kinda low considering all the devices It's on.

You said casuals a few times but the market gp is available on is hardcore which the numbers reflect.

To actually get casuals on board they would need to have gp on the more casual friendly consoles.


You think they would be deceiving in their wording to investors? You think Xbox One isn't casual for a console? What is then? 18 out of 50 million. That's a huge percentage of "hardcore" gamers. Eh, the term casuals can come down to opinion so there is no right or wrong. My definition is console owners who don't post on forums and only buy the "big hitter" games, and/or sports games. So what is considered a casual console to you?

"Xbox Game Pass has now hit 18 million subscribers, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella has stated, speaking on its FY21 Q2 earnings call." Not sure what's so confusing about this sentence. Subscribers, present tense.
 
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S0ULZB0URNE

Member
You think they would be deceiving in their wording to investors? You think Xbox One isn't casual for a console? What is then? 18 out of 50 million. That's a huge percentage of "hardcore" gamers. Eh, the term casuals can come down to opinion so there is no right or wrong. My definition is console owners who don't post on forums and only buy the "big hitter" games, and/or sports games. So what is considered a casual console to you?
18(inflated) million out of 50 million? I thought xbo sold more?
We also have the millions on the PC and a few million on XSX/S.

Hardcore not casual numbers bro.

No I don't think Xbox is casual friendly🤷‍♂️ They left after the 360 but the hardcore like us stick around just some like me don't support rental gaming services.
 

Wizz-Art

Member
I also pay 15 a month now for Game Pass Ultimate and it still is insane value IMO! I've done two years conversion of Gold to Game Pass Ultimate previously and the two gold subs were stacked with MS Rewards points making it essentially free. I pay now but I even could've gotten it through MS Rewards if I wanted to because I earn so much through buying games, movies and TV shows through my Xbox, I did that anyway already but I recently spend 91.000 MS reward points for $100 in Xbox giftcards for the Black Friday sale and I rather spend my points on Giftcards and pay 15 a month that I don't feel at all. I actually cancelled my Netflix subscription after 8 years last summer because the woke bullshit annoys me way to much - I absolutely don't want that shit in my entertainment - I also cancelled my NBA league pass sub because of that and currently stick with Spotify, Amazon Prime Video, Tennis TV and NHL TV along with Game Pass Ultimate as my subs for now.
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
18(inflated) million out of 50 million? I thought xbo sold more?
We also have the millions on the PC and a few million on XSX/S.

Hardcore not casual numbers bro.

No I don't think Xbox is casual friendly🤷‍♂️ They left after the 360 but the hardcore like us stick around just some like me don't support rental gaming services.
how or where are they inflating gamepass numbers?
 

NickFire

Member
What? This is a joke right?

You CANNOT get three years of Gamepass Ultimate for one dollar. The best you can do is buy three years of Gold ($180) then convert it to GPU.

So it's $181 not including tax. You're just spreading flat out lies.
If what you wrote is true he is hardly spreading lies. The three years of Gold would have been paid for regardless in most cases for those who upgrade (but not likely at once of course), so you would be getting the GP sweetener for 3 years for an extra buck. That said, MS would be also entirely justified in saying they sold 3 years of GP (at normal 15 tier) for 181 since it would have included Gold anyway, and I really doubt many people would have subscribed to Gold for 3 years without intending to upgrade it. So in a way both of you are right, and just seeing things from a different point of view. That's not lying.
 

FrankWza

Member
What? This is a joke right?

You CANNOT get three years of Gamepass Ultimate for one dollar. The best you can do is buy three years of Gold ($180) then convert it to GPU.

So it's $181 not including tax. You're just spreading flat out lies.
So, $181-$180= $1 I just got GP for $1
I this equation wrong? Because that .027 cents a month.
You proved my statement and so can I.

now. 18 million GP subscribers right?
How many are paying one of the 5 or 6 $1 deals that are constantly being offered?
There’s no answer. We don’t know.
Now who’s spreading it? Me or Msoft?
Because as far as I can see you’re defending them for making you frontload 3 years of a service that’s all markup(and is all but a necessity at this point) to subsidize another service that they’re in desperate need to make work. Then they’re yelling “10 million, 15 million 18 million!”
And you’re clapping like they won a championship but you’re accusing me of half truths.
 

cosmicom

Banned
So, $181-$180= $1 I just got GP for $1
I this equation wrong? Because that .027 cents a month.
You proved my statement and so can I.

now. 18 million GP subscribers right?
How many are paying one of the 5 or 6 $1 deals that are constantly being offered?
There’s no answer. We don’t know.
Now who’s spreading it? Me or Msoft?
Because as far as I can see you’re defending them for making you frontload 3 years of a service that’s all markup(and is all but a necessity at this point) to subsidize another service that they’re in desperate need to make work. Then they’re yelling “10 million, 15 million 18 million!”
And you’re clapping like they won a championship but you’re accusing me of half truths.

Sony fanboy logic; I´m stingy, trained in ps1 piracy and pc torrent, so 18 million xbox game pass users use the same trick avoiding to pay.
 
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devilNprada

Member
So, $181-$180= $1 I just got GP for $1
I this equation wrong? Because that .027 cents a month.
You proved my statement and so can I.

now. 18 million GP subscribers right?
How many are paying one of the 5 or 6 $1 deals that are constantly being offered?
There’s no answer. We don’t know.
Now who’s spreading it? Me or Msoft?
Because as far as I can see you’re defending them for making you frontload 3 years of a service that’s all markup(and is all but a necessity at this point) to subsidize another service that they’re in desperate need to make work. Then they’re yelling “10 million, 15 million 18 million!”
And you’re clapping like they won a championship but you’re accusing me of half truths.

At the end of the day though, they have 18 million subscribers. It doesn't matter how they got them or get them.
They need to keep it growing for it to survive. Right now nothing else matters.
 

FrankWza

Member
Sony fanboy logic; I´m stingy, trained in ps1 piracy and pc torrent, so 18 million xbox game pass users use the same trick avoiding to pay.
I never said every single sub is on it. But you’re the one calling it a trick. The truth is, there’s plenty of $1 deals out there. Is that what Msoft values their service at? Maybe that’s why they doubled gold price? If you want to pay $15 while a bunch are paying $5 good for you, I guess.
At the end of the day though, they have 18 million subscribers. It doesn't matter how they got them or get them.
They need to keep it growing for it to survive. Right now nothing else matters.
Subscription services success is measured by retention. The new sub numbers are for press releases. Especially when you’re enticing customers with these $1 deals. That’s the question. The breakdown of the 18 million is more important than the number 18 million.
 

cosmicom

Banned
I never said every single sub is on it. But you’re the one calling it a trick. The truth is, there’s plenty of $1 deals out there. Is that what Msoft values their service at? Maybe that’s why they doubled gold price? If you want to pay $15 while a bunch are paying $5 good for you, I guess.

Subscription services success is measured by retention. The new sub numbers are for press releases. Especially when you’re enticing customers with these $1 deals. That’s the question. The breakdown of the 18 million is more important than the number 18 million.

1$ is promotion for people to know gamepass, and to achieve new subscribers.

Consumers using game pass means that they will likely spend their money in Xbox ecosystem, people get stuck in their service and money arrives. I can tell that because I spend all my money in xbox, not in playstation.

That´s the marketing tactic of Xbox; you can try and apply to Microsoft human resources and teach them how to make more money
 
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FrankWza

Member
1$ is promotion for people to know gamepass, and to achieve new subscribers.
It takes 3 years to know gamepass?
people get stuck in their service and money arrives.
this should be their new marketing slogan
That´s the marketing tactic of Xbox; you can try and apply to Microsoft human resources and teach them how to make more money
That’s for pee tests and taking harassment complaints.
 

cosmicom

Banned
It takes 3 years to know gamepass?

this should be their new marketing slogan

That’s for pee tests and taking harassment complaints.
It takes the time for Microsoft to be the third biggest company of earth, and to know hoy to make money.

On the other hand, it takes 1 day to understand the value of gamepass.
 

MaulerX

Member
So, $181-$180= $1 I just got GP for $1
I this equation wrong? Because that .027 cents a month.
You proved my statement and so can I.

now. 18 million GP subscribers right?
How many are paying one of the 5 or 6 $1 deals that are constantly being offered?
There’s no answer. We don’t know.
Now who’s spreading it? Me or Msoft?
Because as far as I can see you’re defending them for making you frontload 3 years of a service that’s all markup(and is all but a necessity at this point) to subsidize another service that they’re in desperate need to make work. Then they’re yelling “10 million, 15 million 18 million!”
And you’re clapping like they won a championship but you’re accusing me of half truths.



You are being purposefully obtuse. You are framing it as you can get three years of GPU for one dollar. That is a completely disingenuous argument because you literally can't.

That is like telling someone "I'll sell you the Gillette razors for $1, oh and by the way that's just the handle. The razors will cost you $30"

Point is you just can't tell someone "Hey, you can get three years of GPU for $1!!" And then forget to tell them you have to fork over $180 upfront.
 

FrankWza

Member
You are being purposefully obtuse. You are framing it as you can get three years of GPU for one dollar. That is a completely disingenuous argument because you literally can't.

That is like telling someone "I'll sell you the Gillette razors for $1, oh and by the way that's just the handle. The razors will cost you $30"

Point is you just can't tell someone "Hey, you can get three years of GPU for $1!!" And then forget to tell them you have to fork over $180 upfront.
Ok Andy dufresne. But that’s exactly what you’re getting. 3 years of gamepass for $1. Not 3 years of gpu for $1. I never said that. I said gamepass is $1
 

octiny

Banned
They have 100 million active live users.
How many are gold?

There are no gold subscription numbers. That’s one of my points. Why? Why are they so proudly volunteering GP numbers but not gold numbers?
Everyone is getting gold anyway you’re just paying it upfront.

I'm confused.

Why do you need Gold subscriber numbers if everyone has it?

You demanded Gold subscriber numbers. Then go on to use Gold as "everyone already has it" to substantiate your claim that everyone is doing the 3 year $1 Gamepass trick.

So which is it? And why does it bug you so much if you can come to your own conclusion that every Xbox owner has Gold anyways.

MS gets a butt load of cash no matter how you cut it.
 
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FrankWza

Member
I'm confused.
You are. Because you’re quoting me out of context. Go back and read because there’s more to that post and what I was responding to. I don’t know how many gold subs they have. In the context of GPU, everyone is getting gold anyway, right? So why pay $540 over 3 years when you can pay $180 up front? Do you want gamepass without gold? Are you planning on playing any of those games online? Because if you’re not, the value of gamepass decreases substantially.
 

DaGwaphics

Member
At the end of the day though, they have 18 million subscribers. It doesn't matter how they got them or get them.
They need to keep it growing for it to survive. Right now nothing else matters.

Very true. And the longer they lock people in upfront (with those 3yr for $181 deals) the better. They are trying to change the mindset of user in regards to how they acquire games, the more time people use a service like this the less likely they are to quit using it.
 

octiny

Banned
You are. Because you’re quoting me out of context. Go back and read because there’s more to that post and what I was responding to. I don’t know how many gold subs they have. In the context of GPU, everyone is getting gold anyway, right? So why pay $540 over 3 years when you can pay $180 up front? Do you want gamepass without gold? Are you planning on playing any of those games online? Because if you’re not, the value of gamepass decreases substantially.

It most definitely was not out of context, you knew what you were writing & what you were inferring. You just let your guard down.

Keep digging that hole.

 

FrankWza

Member
It most definitely was not out of context, you knew what you were writing & what you were inferring. You just let your guard down.

Keep digging that hole.
Then why did you quote the entire post? Sounds like you missed out on the loophole and you’re maybe trying to justify paying $15 a month while there’s potentially millions that are getting EVERYTHING you’re getting for $5 a month. This isn’t like waiting for a price drop on a game, you’re paying 3 times the price at the same time. Or...or...are you paying $1 for gamepass for 3 years?
 

cosmicom

Banned
Then why did you quote the entire post? Sounds like you missed out on the loophole and you’re maybe trying to justify paying $15 a month while there’s potentially millions that are getting EVERYTHING you’re getting for $5 a month. This isn’t like waiting for a price drop on a game, you’re paying 3 times the price at the same time. Or...or...are you paying $1 for gamepass for 3 years?
10$ game pass, 15$ game pass ultimate, 5$ prize of beta game pass for PC ended half a year ago
 

cosmicom

Banned
Well, surely they paying developers more money than they earning "buttload of cash" from Gamepass
18 million consumers paying 120$ a year means 2160.000.000 $. Besides, xbox sells more games than ever, increasing 51% this year. that´s a lot of money to share

Look at steam, playstation games fail, but xbox games skyrocket in sales. Maybe somebody forgot minecraft is the best selling game of history, making tons of money today?

Saying that Microsoft doesnt know how to make money is... well not very bright
 
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FrankWza

Member
5$ prize of beta game pass for PC ended half a year ago
$5 is GPU deal for 3 years. $181/36 months
You are being purposefully obtuse. You are framing it as you can get three years of GPU for one dollar. That is a completely disingenuous argument because you literally can't.

That is like telling someone "I'll sell you the Gillette razors for $1, oh and by the way that's just the handle. The razors will cost you $30"

Point is you just can't tell someone "Hey, you can get three years of GPU for $1!!" And then forget to tell them you have to fork over $180 upfront.
Ok Andy dufresne. But that’s exactly what you’re getting. 3 years of gamepass for $1. Not 3 years of gpu for $1. I never said that. I said gamepass is $1
See? Gamepass $1. You brought up GPU and my “framing” this post above clarifies it for you. You’re making some ridiculous analogy about shaving. Is this post above right or wrong? Am I paying $1 for gamepass? Yes. Nice try though. Listen man, enjoy your gamepass. How much are you paying by the way? $15 a month or $5 or $10...I can see where it gets confusing.
 
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