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Microsoft Q2 2021 Destroys Sales and Profits (Xbox +40%)

Vasto

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Yes, but they are in third place and losing ground. They are off to a worse start, comparatively, than Xbox One.

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NullZ3r0

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The scary thing is that this is with "no games" and especially no Halo. Imagine how the numbers will look when those 23 studios start dropping AA to AAA content. If even 25% of those titles are blockbusters, that's huge for Xbox and GamePass.

Series S is going to kill it as a complimentary machine for gamers.
 

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They are still third in a field of 3.

And yeah, revenue increase during a console launch period should go without saying. We're talking about sales on a platform at the end of its life-cycle being outmatched by its successor products. If revenue was flat or declining then the entire brand would have to be seen as circling the drain!
 

Dabaus

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Folks none of that 15 billion came from xbox, and a 40 percent jump in revenue from the xbox division is for the xbox division, not microsoft as a whole. A 40 percent IN REVENUE jump during a console launch, one of which was 500, dollars isnt that great. Theres nothing to celebrate here unless your MS stock holder, but we're talking xbox here.
 
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Vasto

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They are still third in a field of 3.

And yeah, revenue increase during a console launch period should go without saying. We're talking about sales on a platform at the end of its life-cycle being outmatched by its successor products. If revenue was flat or declining then the entire brand would have to be seen as circling the drain!

They are 3rd based on what?
 
Folks none of that 15 billion came from xbox, and a 40 percent jump in revenue from the xbox division is for the xbox division, not microsoft as a whole. A 40 percent IN REVENUE jump during a console launch, one of which was 500, dollars isnt that great. Theres nothing to celebrate here unless your MS stock holder, but we're talking xbox here.
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Banjo64

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These numbers are all well and good, but what we all want to know is whether Game Pass is truly sustainable? Of course, it just makes sense for Microsoft to sell Bathesda games on PlayStation. Everyone has the £1 Game Pass offer, no one will pay full price.

I think I’ve won the Microsoft concern bingo game :messenger_beaming:

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Bonus round: the Gold price hike was to pay for the Zenimax deal... LOL
 
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Well deserved Xbox, you've been doing far more great things over crappy things and it shows. I've been enjoying my Series X, the UI, Gamepass, splashes of PC over console, family sharing, parental controls and above all else the games. Despite what some people post I have thoroughly enjoyed playing new and old games myself while my kids have also been trialling games to play and finding gems and friends online too.
 

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They are 3rd based on what?

Hardware and software sales in every major global territory. Xbox is still mainly a console brand, and Nintendo and Sony are outselling them handily.

If they were in such a commanding position why would they be investing billions on acquisitions?

Look, its a positive result no question. But it simply doesn't justify the tub-thumping some people are doing. No offence, but just look at what results are being reported here based on what's actually changed in their product line-up in the marketplace. They break it down in the gaming section of the live doc linked in the OP.
 

JLB

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Just close your eyes and imagine for a second that in this forum there are people that thought that MS dropping the Gold price increase was putting Zenimax acquisition and the whole Xbox division in economic issues.
 
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Percentage increase comparators are pretty meaningless without the basis numbers they're comparing to.

E.g.

An 89% increase from $1m is $1.89m which is a moderate increase but still pretty pathetic. Whereas an 89% increase over $100m is $189m which is waaaaay more impressive.

Without knowing the absolute numbers being compared to, these percentage increase figures don't really tell us anything.

For one, we have every indication (from NPD numbers) that Xbox hardware sales have been pretty poor for years. So at least for the hardware sales revenue percentage increase, we have some basis with which to frame it.
 
They are very stable. And xbox revenue will be way up but just like sony every purchase will be at a loss so they are just fine.
 

G-DannY

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Percentage increase comparators are pretty meaningless without the basis numbers they're comparing to.

E.g.

An 89% increase from $1m is $1.89m which is a moderate increase but still pretty pathetic. Whereas an 89% increase over $100m is $189m which is waaaaay more impressive.

Without knowing the absolute numbers being compared to, these percentage increase figures don't really tell us anything.

For one, we have every indication (from NPD numbers) that Xbox hardware sales have been pretty poor for years. So at least for the hardware sales revenue percentage increase, we have some basis with which to frame it.
percentage increases are percentage increases

you are talking your ass out
 

Vasto

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Maybe console sales???


Console sales? Consoles are just 1 part of Xbox. Microsoft has said over and over they want you playing on any device. PC, console mobile and soon TVs. That is why we have hardware, software and services.

Revenue decides who is in what place. If Xbox division starts to make the most money then they are in 1st place and its coming. Only a matter of time.
 

Vasto

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Hardware and software sales in every major global territory. Xbox is still mainly a console brand, and Nintendo and Sony are outselling them handily.

If they were in such a commanding position why would they be investing billions on acquisitions?

Look, its a positive result no question. But it simply doesn't justify the tub-thumping some people are doing. No offence, but just look at what results are being reported here based on what's actually changed in their product line-up in the marketplace. They break it down in the gaming section of the live doc linked in the OP.

5 Billon made this quarter. That is what decides what place they are in.

Money will always be the #1 metric.
 

G-DannY

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Thank you for this ostensible truism. Percentage increases are percentage increases... no shit sherlock!

You've presented no meaningful counterpoint. You've only demonstrated your own ineptitude and inability to conceive a rational thought.
so you live in a reality where a 100% increase (a double) of a cent is lesser than a 100% increase (still a double) of a billion

that's some Einstein kind of relativity skyrocketing
 
Console sales? Consoles are just 1 part of Xbox. Microsoft has said over and over they want you playing on any device. PC, console mobile and soon TVs. That is why we have hardware, software and services.

Revenue decides who is in what place. If Xbox division starts to make the most money then they are in 1st place and its coming. Only a matter of time.
You are correct hardware for the first few years is sold at a loss, however more hardware sold means more software potentially. What makes Microsoft different to Sony is Gamepass, now its obviously making money but they need more subs to attract the big publishers to get the games on release day. If they do that then Sony are in trouble going forward.
 
Console sales? Consoles are just 1 part of Xbox. Microsoft has said over and over they want you playing on any device. PC, console mobile and soon TVs. That is why we have hardware, software and services.

Revenue decides who is in what place. If Xbox division starts to make the most money then they are in 1st place and its coming. Only a matter of time.

Yeah, console sales. And they are important. Like it or not. But i guess you don't because Xbox is outsold easily by Sony and Nintendo
 
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