I don't think this is it. Single player games like Assassin's Creed: Valhalla had similar load times on next gen, despite being single player.The actual level may not load until that is done. For all you know matchmaking takes 20 seconds or more and is non deterministic.
I'm gonna quote you on something you said before the consoles released. You said XSX will have at least a 35% advantage on avg. or something when the comparisons start to come out. Now that the comparisons are out... That wishful "35% advantage" is nowhere to be seen. What do you have to say about that?
you cant, 'cos i never said the above.
It only took 40 seconds.It's on bae!
Oh you went from parity to a huge gap? Seems like someone getting soft down there
Anyway, my predictions over the gen, Series X will get up to 35% advantage over PS5, not sure if that's huge for you. But that's my score card down.
They've been a trillion dollar company since they created the first xbox, they come in behind Sony & Nintendo every generation. At least they are consistent, last place without fail.
Finger crossed Nintendo stuff up the switch Pro then maybe second is on the cards.
It seems wrong to you because you are an xbox coolaid drinker who thinks they are good at what they do. Not even Microsoft think they are good at what they do, that's why game pass is becoming the biggest part of xboxs prioritises.
Dirt 5 devs: Next gen GPU differences don't impact development, but have efficiencies when optimising and tuning
This is exactly why I just lurk around here and barely post cause there is no having a decent conversation with Xbox fans even when straight facts are thrown at them they still don't listen but will soak up every Microsoft lie they spit out smh.www.neogaf.com
It only took 40 seconds.
If it's not showing now then those 35% will never come to fruition. But okay.'over the gen' , 'get up tp'
I did not state from the start.
Because it obvious you're asking a flaming question, "oh my god if the ps5 ssd is so fast why doesn't it load faster?" I could also ask you why the XsX drops frames when the ps5 is more consistent not only on this game but in 98% of games released so far when it has 12supeeTF of mega power? Console wars are fucking stupid, grow up.30 seconds waiting for a sever to respond? I don't think server has anything to do with loading a level.
Yet it loads way way faster than the old PS4 version.
The question was - why is PS5 loading not better than the Series X version.
Maybe try answering the question properly before you start insulting people
...As soon as the RDNA 2.0 games arrive...
'over the gen' , 'get up tp'
I did not state from the start.
GAF needs to clean up house and get rid of these kind of idiots.What are you even Talking about? XSX is also Full of customization.
As soon as the RDNA 2.0 games arrive the difference will be much bigger, since PS5 does not support all RDNA 2.0 feature, whereas XSX indeed does.
Since PS5 is basically a 2019 console the devkits are more matures. That’s also why we see more nextgen games on PS5. It simply has a year more time.
Like ps4 Pro arrived earlier than one X. But the wait for all RDNA 2.0 features will pay off in the long run. These consoles are going to last for at least 5 years.
Why blame Don Matrick and not the Xbox division?It is down to Don Matrick, aint it so?
A pity considering Don is from the same developer background as Cerny.
Since Don came onboard, he killed the X360 momentum with Kinect. He killed the Xbox brand momentum with One.
Before that, X360 was bearing down the neck of PS brand.
We lost a whole gen with One.
Thank god we had Phil turning things back. I cant believe you think GPU is a bad thing? What then of Sony killing their own Japan studios?
With GPU, Phil killed 2 birds with 1 stone. Remember gamers were asking for MS commitment to PC gaming? There you have it.
That's why some like me, with no stakes in the console branding, is watching, hoping MS continue to bring the goods.
Was so excited MS bought Zenimax, it meant so many things. Of all, it means the whole might of MS is behind Phil.
You gotta thank Phil for providing a strong alternative to Sony, imagine without Xbox, Jimbo will unleash full tyranny.
SX got off to a shakey start, but the potential is there. Clear as day.
So you expect a 35% delta when the series x is currently behind (or reaches parity at best)?
Where is this going to come from? Do you also buy AMD graphics cards on the promise that the drivers will eventually mature?
Phil Spencer’s favorite game. Secured deal to give xbox users newest content for free to headline gamespass at series s/x launch... Yet gets the worse version?
Phil Spencer has proven Jack shit thus far
Single player third person game fan? PlayStation. Multi player game fan? Xbox.As of this minute, this year which console between a Ps5 and an Xbox would you recommend to the general user?
Its a simple question,
Based on what Mr Non fanboy? Show me what game genres Sony publishes MS does not.Playstation has more variety than Xbox. Fanboy gonna fanboy.
Could be the told, it could be the extra CUs they are causing the problem. It could also be that RDNA2 isn't fully activated in the system. I've also read a theory on how Sony will patch the PS5 to run at slower clocks due to over heating issues.
What I do know is that nobody is giving a clear answer to why this is happening.
Educate yourself:Single player third person game fan? PlayStation. Multi player game fan? Xbox.
Based on what Mr Non fanboy? Show me what game genres Sony publishes MS does not.
The bold is hilarious.
I'm gonna quote you on something you said before the consoles released. You said XSX will have at least a 35% advantage on avg. or something when the comparisons start to come out. Now that the comparisons are out... That wishful "35% advantage" is nowhere to be seen. What do you have to say about that?
VR games? For example, mobile family games like quizz etc. I can't think of an open world rpg like GoT on Xbox side but my memory may be faulty on that one(I guess you could count outer world since it came out after the buying,it's a bit of a stretch but can be considered as valid).Single player third person game fan? PlayStation. Multi player game fan? Xbox.
Based on what Mr Non fanboy? Show me what game genres Sony publishes MS does not.
Starfield and Doom now niche ok.Xbox as this gens niche exclusive box. Interesting
Elder Scrolls will not be exclusive, but I do hope it's timed exclusive so other consoles get the game of the year edition with far less bugs.Starfield and Doom now niche ok.
Elder scrolls also niche?
Well, i take 2 fps drops in SX over paying 100$ for expansion packs on PS5 for Destiny 2. Thank you.
On SX its in Game pass, entire experience.
Single player third person game fan? PlayStation. Multi player game fan? Xbox.
Based on what Mr Non fanboy? Show me what game genres Sony publishes MS does not.
Answer:I'm gonna quote you on something you said before the consoles released. You said XSX will have at least a 35% advantage on avg. or something when the comparisons start to come out. Now that the comparisons are out... That wishful "35% advantage" is nowhere to be seen. What do you have to say about that?
I'd actually like to know why both next gen consoles take so long to load .. with either 25x or 50x the transfer rate (of last gen consoles) - yet both takes ages..Because it obvious you're asking a flaming question, "oh my god if the ps5 ssd is so fast why doesn't it load faster?" I could also ask you why the XsX drops frames when the ps5 is more consistent not only on this game but in 98% of games released so far when it has 12supeeTF of mega power? Console wars are fucking stupid, grow up.
Loading in destiny is based on all players connection and location... it can be faster like 15-20s or a madness over 1 minute depending of the of the all players in the firetrap.Well, in that same video, the Xbox One X only takes 10 more seconds to load the same thing, despite its vastly inferior hardware. I don't think taking that long on the new consoles is due to any kind of hardware bottleneck. I mean we already have large games that load in a couple of seconds. It's a large shift from HDD, some just need to catch up.
Loading in destiny is based on all players connection and location... it can be faster like 15-20s or a madness over 1 minute depending of the of the all players in the firetrap.
It's similar numbers - ~25sec for Series X, ~30sec for PS% -- comparison's aside- both times are trash imo, compared to what the promise was..
Let me translate this into industry numbers. We’ll have games 20% less complex than the PS5 can handle and with 18% less detail in texture and ray tracing than the XSX can do.
And i never said that. Im simply logically deducing the performance deficit that can be observed in these early multi plat titles.This ''premature driver/tools optimization" is just an unproven myth. There have been no actual developers complaining about it stating that performance is poor and they're difficult to use.
Where am i talking about tf as a metric? When i talk about drivers, i talk about the pipeline as a whole. Admittely i should have clarified this better.It's more an excuse that some people have created for the results that we're having in basically all games so far.
I think the reality is kinda different.
On the hardware side marketing wanted to highlight the GPU on-paper peak teraflops as the only meaningful figure representative of real world performance of the whole system. It simply isn't. Being able to remove the bottlenecks over the whole graphics pipeline and being able to keep the CUs constantly well fed is much more important to real performance than a peak theoretical figure when differences are small in first place (18% like in this case).
So how does this specifically take account for the PS5 perf we are seeing?So basically, the situation we're seeing right now will stick for the whole gen.
And i never said that. Im simply logically deducing the performance deficit that can be observed in these early multi plat titles.
Where am i talking about tf as a metric? When i talk about drivers, i talk about the pipeline as a whole. Admittely i should have clarified this better.
So how does this specifically take account for the PS5 perf we are seeing?
But then the vid and article was updated that sx does use drs also so...“A true next gen advantage”
?? So, is that from DF or did you make that up on your own? That’s not the title of the article on their page.
The article says the PS5 has a very slightly more stable frame rate but also uses dynamic resolution scaling more often to achieve that. They barely detected any dynamic resolution scaling on the Xbox, but did see the occasional dropped frame. It’s the same trade off we’ve seen before. The PS5 has better frame rate because the dynamic resolution scaling occurs more often (the DRS is slightly more aggressive in order to keep the frame rate up on PS5)
I feel like we’ve got a potential clickbait thread and a bunch of misinform in this thread.
From the article:
Destiny 2 on next-gen delivers the upgrade that matters - performance
Bungie jumps onto next-gen systems with extra support for Destiny 2 on PlayStation 5, Xbox Series S and X, delivering t…www.eurogamer.net
“The games are effectively identical - with PS5 showing only a slightly higher frequency of resolution drops under 4K. In fact, evidence does seem to point towards the Microsoft machine not using DRS much, if at all. 60fps performance is generally excellent on Series X too, but it does have some minor frame-rate drops from the target 60fps, while PlayStation 5 is slightly more consistent in this area. In short: a touch more clarity on Xbox, but a very occasionally smoother ride on the Sony machine.”
Nope...
Thought it was 40%, that was the figure being bandied around. Even before Christmas you had Colt Eastwood saying the difference would be 'staggering'.
But do you also understand the meaning of these numbers and what significance they have each?