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[Bernkastel]

Double Fine working on a Banjo reboot makes so much sense... but also... it makes even more sense for them to work on Conker too.

At 19:42 Tim Schafer denied all Banjo rumours.

 

[Vyndktvx]

Some of those release dates seem way too optimistic though

No fucking way is Avowed coming next year. They announced it with a goddamn CGI trailer, it’s a 2022 game at the absolute earliest.

 

[Kerotan]

Really lacklustre line up. This isn't going to convince many to buy the xbox over ps5. Obviously being on PC too doesn't help.

 

[Bernkastel]

Really lacklustre line up. This isn't going to convince many to buy the xbox over ps5. Obviously being on PC too doesn't help.

Really lacklustre post, clinging to fake leaks to validate your "concerns". This is not going convince anyone to take you seriously.

 

[Raekwon26]

Really lacklustre post, clinging to fake leaks to validate your "concerns". This is not going convince anyone to take you seriously.

Can you relax?

 

[Bernkastel]

Can you relax?

Consider my last post in this thread was more than an hour ago, yes I am.

 

[Teslerum]

Hook Forza Horizon 5 to my veins!



Yeah that made me unreasonably angry.

Fable should have a whimsical posh-lite British sense of humor. If it's anything else can you call it Fable?

Posh-lite, no adult humor? Insulting the OG Fable game FFS.

 

[TheMay30thMan]

Why does everyone on Reddit sound exactly the same? Surely, the staff that Microsoft hires for “publishing” has had to take a couple of college level English courses. I refuse to believe someone in that position writes like a bot.

Also, why are we making threads in December about leaks from May?

 

[Stiflers Mom]

That sounds like they don't have anything for the next two years.
Wow at that startup time into the gen.

 

[Calverz]

Why has gathered legs? OP posted a tweet back from may.

 

[Clear]

That sounds like they don't have anything for the next two years.
Wow at that startup time into the gen.

Its not just a matter of lead time, all of which pushes the launch time for any big project into late 2021 and more likely 2022 at the earliest, there's also the issue that it'd make zero sense to release all their new first-party offering too closely spaced and creating a feast- famine cycle. These titles need to be spread out over 18months at a minimum.

Its because of these issues that despite all their acquisitions its going to take Xbox practically a full gen to get it first-party pipeline setup properly.

 

[xiseerht]

I mean , if you are an Xbox fan , you could have pretty much guessed this list already . It is pretty safe and what I would have already figured they were working on. What that being said. I am still happy and please with what MS is doing .

 

[paypay88]

now we are taking fake lists as "source" ? how the fuck any janior at XGS would know each game reveals date at which events ? Only a few people top end knows this shit , most of time dev team doesn't have even clue.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

I don't think so, XSX was revealed first and has been confirmed since E3 2019 IIRC.

So wait Microsoft deliberately released a console that won't have any exciting first party games for its first 2 years?
What the fuck have they been doing?

I mean last gen they were supposedly SHIT because they were preparing for next gen.

 

[Jethalal]

So wait Microsoft deliberately released a console that won't have any exciting first party games for its first 2 years?
What the fuck have they been doing?

I mean last gen they were supposedly SHIT because they were preparing for next gen.

I guess they were counting on Halo Infinite's success but the reaction to the reveal messed their plans.
If they would've delayed the console so late then PS5 would have had even more advantage.
Launching early did help them in the X360 gen so they probably didn't wanna make the same mistake as PS3.
I think we'll get another exclusive next year. Hopefully their plans bode well for them.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

I guess they were counting on Halo Infinite's success but the reaction to the reveal messed their plans.
If they would've delayed the console so late then PS5 would have had even more advantage.
Launching early did help them in the X360 gen so they probably didn't wanna make the same mistake as PS3.
I think we'll get another exclusive next year. Hopefully their plans bode well for them.

Well I guess they bought Bethesda because they knew Sony games will slaughter them in 2021.

 

[Bernkastel]

Well I guess they bought Bethesda because they knew Sony games will slaughter them in 2021.

With what?

 

[MilkyJoe]

Literally all of that was already rumored

I was looking for the new leak, and that's all it is, shit we already know

 

[Papacheeks]

So wait Microsoft deliberately released a console that won't have any exciting first party games for its first 2 years?
What the fuck have they been doing?

I mean last gen they were supposedly SHIT because they were preparing for next gen.

Welcome to how Microsoft looks at their division. They took way too long to realize they needed more studios. And that wasn't even brought up until they started building the infrastructure and idea of Gamepass years ago. If you're only main reason for the giant influx in cash for buying studios, and creating new teams is to serve a game service, you've to me lost the plot of why XBox has had issues since the beginning.

I know I'm going off again on a rant, but jesus. When you look at the state of these projects from the new studios still being years out, you have to wonder, did they not have things in place like timed deals, or third party exclusives to fill in the gap while we wait for these new teams?

Nintendo does it, Sony does it. Like you can't finance some games from developers you trust? I know Crackdown 3 didn't work out well, but honestly that is also on Microsoft who managed that. How can you not look that it wasn't the issues primarily with the developer as that same developer that worked on the Campaign made All-Stars racing transformed and recently one of the best recent entries to Little Big planet(Sackboy adventure).

The fact these people like Ryan Mcaffrey from IGN dont understand that, the state of going all in on a game service is because it's literally a last resort to save the brand.
I guess that's the primary reason they bought Behtesda, because they know starfield, elder scrolls VI will help pad out their lack luster library until their internal studios get their projects out.
I'm telling you all this, January/February more than likely getting a state of play. We were suppose to get a update video from them in December but plans have changed. Some games got pushed back.

But a lot of them are still releasing 2021. On top of having FF XVI exclusive, among "other titles" that have not been announced yet as timed/full exclusive.
Listening to jabronies like Ryan, get's harder to swallow his tip toeing around a console that has launched with nothing new.

With what?

You been in a cave all year? MLB:THE SHOW, Ratchet and clank, Returnal, GT7, Horizon: forbidden west, Kena, Stray, Destruction All stars free on Plus in February, FF XVI, and thats not including if street fighter makes it's date. On top of "other" capcom games that will have exclusivity.

Also forgot deathloop, and Ghostwire.

Like thats a lot. ANd thats not even touching smaller indie titles.

 

[Bernkastel]

They took way too long to realize they needed more studios.

The acquisition talks started around the same time Phil became an executive. Until then Xbox was a sub division of Windows and Devices Group under Terry Myerson.

Xbox chief Phil Spencer joins Microsoft's Senior Leadership Team

Microsoft's Xbox Chief, Phil Spencer, is now a part of its Senior Leadership Team as an Executive Vice President.

www.windowscentral.com

Terry Myerson is out as Microsoft shakes up Windows and Devices group

Microsoft has announced a new "Experiences & Devices" division, lead by Rajesh Jha, that replaces the old Windows and Devices group along with Terry Myerson.

www.windowscentral.com

The Xbox division simply didnt have the money to throw around like they do now. Phil now reports directly to Nadella. Also the Zenimax acquisition talks started in 2018, not because "We don't have anything in 2021, lets buy Bethesda".

You been in a cave all year? MLB:THE SHOW, Ratchet and clank, Returnal, GT7, Horizon: forbidden west, Kena, Stray, Destruction All stars free on Plus in February, FF XVI, and thats not including if street fighter makes it's date. On top of "other" capcom games that will have exclusivity.

Also forgot deathloop, and Ghostwire.

Like thats a lot. ANd thats not even touching smaller indie titles.

MLB The Show will be multiplat from 2021 and GT7 is not confirmed for 2021. In 2021, Xbox has The Medium(January 28), Scorn, Bright Memory Infinite, CrossfireX, Flight Simulator, Shredders, Exo One, Halo Infinite and many many more smaller indies(and some bigger ones). All of these actually confirmed for 2021.

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The future of gaming has never been more inspiring. Creativity in games is flourishing. New services empower you to discover more games—and bring you closer to the games and creators and streamers you love. The cloud creates a massive opportunity to stream console-quality games and play with the...

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I know I'm going off again on a rant, but jesus. When you look at the state of these projects from the new studios still being years out, you have to wonder, did they not have things in place like timed deals, or third party exclusives to fill in the gap while we wait for these new teams?

Yes, they have a lot of them.

 

[Shrennin]

At 19:42 Tim Schafer denied all Banjo rumours.

Well, that’s a bummer... but also, Double Fine is capable of creating its own IP fairly easily.

I also expect a Brutal Legends 2 because Jack Black is really pulling for that one.

As far as this leak, this is only a sliver (specifically 9 of 23) of their studios. I’m expecting ZeniMax alone to increase their output a lot in 2021. They typically don’t announce games so far in advance either. For instance, Arkane is working on an unannounced IP, and then I expect Bethesda to reveal Starfield in depth at E3 time in 2021 for a release in Fall 2021, unless COVID messed it up.

 

[Javthusiast]

Does her Husband still work at Nintendo?

Nah they had a divorce after she found him shagging Beyonce with JayZ watching in a corner.

 

[Papacheeks]

The acquisition talks started around the same time Phil became an executive. Until then Xbox was a sub division of Windows and Devices Group under Terry Myerson.

Xbox chief Phil Spencer joins Microsoft's Senior Leadership Team

Microsoft's Xbox Chief, Phil Spencer, is now a part of its Senior Leadership Team as an Executive Vice President.

www.windowscentral.com

Terry Myerson is out as Microsoft shakes up Windows and Devices group

Microsoft has announced a new "Experiences & Devices" division, lead by Rajesh Jha, that replaces the old Windows and Devices group along with Terry Myerson.

www.windowscentral.com

The Xbox division simply didnt have the money to throw around like they do now. Phil now reports directly to Nadella. Also the Zenimax acquisition talks started in 2018, not because "We don't have anything in 2021, lets buy Bethesda".

MLB The Show will be multiplat from 2021 and GT7 is not confirmed for 2021. In 2021, Xbox has The Medium(January 28), Scorn, Bright Memory Infinite, CrossfireX, Flight Simulator, Shredders, Exo One, Halo Infinite and many many more smaller indies(and some bigger ones). All of these actually confirmed for 2021.

Xbox |OT| Power Your Dreams

The future of gaming has never been more inspiring. Creativity in games is flourishing. New services empower you to discover more games—and bring you closer to the games and creators and streamers you love. The cloud creates a massive opportunity to stream console-quality games and play with the...

www.neogaf.com

Yes, they have a lot of them.

Yea, so? Microsoft has had xbox as a division for 3 decades. And for three decades they basically ran it into the ground. Their investment in 2018 was because the rest of the division wasn't going to get the influx in cash unless it aligned with Nadella's vision. I feel like I've said this before weeks ago about the state of the division and how it's been run.

Phil was head of xbox studios before, how before xbox one debacle he never looked at the state of their studios, and how many teams they had and not put up a red flag. Also xbox as a division was run by enterprise execs. Now Phil is ceo but that comes with a catch. His division now has to look like all others on spreadsheet in how they operate like services.

Now all the studios wont be looked at by how much the IP's make but more or less engagement numbers, and subs. Which is not a good model for creating games IMHO. Nintendo and Sony have metrics of their own in how many people actually complete games.

I'd like to know how many through gamepass are completing these single player games engagement wise.

Zenimax btw was not looking just at Microsoft. Microsoft knew they needed content for gamepass and that it was going to take years for their internal studios to show fruit. Zenimax acquisition is no different than Majong.

Also that lineup of games Microsoft has Scorn, Medium, Bright memory are not going to make you buy consoles or sign up for gamepass. halo infinite will. Sorry in terms of heavy hitters Sony has shown it's got the brighter lineup of more "Recognizable" AA-AAA games.

 

[Bernkastel]

Phil was head of xbox studios before, how before xbox one debacle he never looked at the state of their studios, and how many teams they had and not put up a red flag

You really think Phil had any say in how first party studios were run before Xbox One launch? He literally had less power than Matt Booty has now. His job was to monitor first party games development(and he did a damn good job of that with what he had in the 360 era), not buy them.
After the Xbox One debacle many of the Xbox executives left, and Phil became the head as he was the only one left.

Shacknews interviews Phil Spencer - "I took the job because I was the only one left"

https://www.shacknews.com/article/121384/last-one-at-the-table-phil-spencer-on-inheriting-xbox-one-and-launching-xbox-series-x#.X6rNV1e6kCI.link "I think the reason I ended up in the job, frankly, was the other leaders were gone. I tease myself that I was the last person left at the table. and...

www.neogaf.com

Also xbox as a division was run by enterprise execs.

Seamus Blackley(father of Xbox) worked on many stuffs like System Shock and the three other co-founders were DirectX devs. Unless you mean the Windows and Devices Group head Terry Myerson(who had the final say), Xbox division itself was always handled by people in the industry. Even Don Mattrick was from EA.

Now Phil is ceo but that comes with a catch. His division now has to look like all others on spreadsheet in how they operate like services.

Now all the studios wont be looked at by how much the IP's make but more or less engagement numbers, and subs.

And your basis for that is someone who writes essays on a gaming forum to make everything fit into his own narrative? You basically make stuff up and present it as a fact.

Zenimax btw was not looking just at Microsoft. Microsoft knew they needed content for gamepass and that it was going to take years for their internal studios to show fruit. Zenimax acquisition is no different than Majong.

Difference is Mojang was done by Microsoft(for Hololens and Minecraft Education stuffs), Phil said in Major Nelson podcast last year that Minecraft was not his idea. Zenimax deal was done by the Xbox division, although I know why you are so desperate to compare Zenimax and Mojang.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

‘Fable will be really ambitious’ is that you Peter?

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Not a lot of reason to get an Xbox Series before 2022, but hopefully the drought will be over around then. By that time, there could be a new model or a cheaper current model.

Too bad I'm not patient enough to take my own advice. I got a Series X hooked up right now waiting for some games.

 

[Chukhopops]

Yea, so? Microsoft has had xbox as a division for 3 decades. And for three decades they basically ran it into the ground.

Ah yes, I remember the launch of the original Xbox in 1990. It was quite bold of them to go against the NES and Master System like that.

Do you think at all before posting?

Also the point about being run by execs is basically a trope at this point. Every large company is « run by execs », even Sony or other companies you like. There’s nothing specific about MS in that regard.

 

[Papacheeks]

Ah yes, I remember the launch of the original Xbox in 1990. It was quite bold of them to go against the NES and Master System like that.

Do you think at all before posting?

Also the point about being run by execs is basically a trope at this point. Every large company is « run by execs », even Sony or other companies you like. There’s nothing specific about MS in that regard.

You sound young, so I'll let it slide. But they had three gen's? Og XBox, 360, xbox one, and now going into their 4 gen. So they are a little short in actual decade years which is 10 years. But they have been in the game for three gens, and over 20 years.

And when I say execs im talking people who worked in enterprise. Nintendo and Sony dont come from enterprise. They come from electronics, toys, entertainment/music. Which is why The playstation was such a success when it launched. They had expierence in making high quality marketable products. Microsoft's contribution at the time of their entry was windows. Huge difference in people and company culture. None of those people had backgrounds in anything outside of applications. Some of them came from software mostly so PC software/games was a good transition. J allard, shamous were the only people who knew what they had with the xbox. The rest of the company could give 2 shits. ANd the people they put in charge over the gens shows it. Phil is the only one who has moved up from xbox software, but even his early background started in application software for windows.

So i was off, but all you have to comment is my time was off in how long they have been in the game? Sounds about right from a young poster.

I bet you never even owned a console from the 90's. I have most of my gaming coming from 80's-90's.

Xbox has been run into the ground and never treated the way it should have been. And now going into 4th gen we are waiting till 2022-2023 until we see anything new from them. And honestly the way they have been behind in their GDK/SDK shows how little they give a shit. They dont seem to have any kind of urgency.

It took someone getting promoted to be able to make changes before they got their heads out of their asses. And even so from the outside looking in, phil looked like when he closed studios that he didnt put up a good fight. If phil was/is that passionate on xbox I would have told the entire board that either we drastically change and take xbox serious or I resign. And the fact this took till 2017 to have any kind of change says before hand he let everything play out. Regardless, i would have put my job on the line and told them either we change or im done. How anyone looked at XBox one and said, " gamers will love tv" was good is beyond me.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Forza 8 doesn't even have a release year. Forza Horizon 5 has not been announced this fall, and there are other mistakes. Most stuff sounds legit but for estimated dates from maybe 1 or 2 years ago, and we should add there some typical delays from videogames, and now even more with covid.

We also should consider what MS said that all the games published by them during the first couple of XSX will be crossgen. According to their trailers and the Xbox page several of the mentioned games aren't crossgen, so they souldn't be released before late 2022.

Or, what's equally as likely, is that they've reneged on that crossgen idea. FS2020 is coming next summer and has no XBO or One X versions, even though it would've fallen into the timeframe of having such beforehand. There's rumors of Halo Infinite's XBO version being cancelled, as well.

Seems to me they dropped the "all cross-gen" idea sometime later into August and around September. Smaller games like Grounded will still be cross-gen but 1P aside from that, even in 2021, looks like most of that will be next-gen only.

EDIT: FUCING DAMNIT GAF can we PLEASE fix the auto-scrolling that moves the window when we're posting? I lost an entire reply to that shit. INSANELY frustrating tbh.

 

[Bernkastel]

There's rumors of Halo Infinite's XBO version being cancelled, as well.

That has been denied by 343i though.

His LinkedIn has been updated to now include Xbox One.

Seriously, The Xbox One Version Of Halo Infinite Hasn't Been Cancelled

343 community manager reconfirms

www.purexbox.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadmirshak/

Starfield will be the first next gen only first party game it seems.

 

[Leyasu]

That has been denied by 343i though.

Starfield will be the first next gen only first party game it seems.

I don’t know man. I don’t think that star field is a 2021 game.

After seeing flight simulator running on the new forza engine, T10 are gonna be the first MS studio to melt our eyes in 21 if it releases

 

[Bernkastel]

I don’t know man. I don’t think that star field is a 2021 game.

After seeing flight simulator running on the new forza engine, T10 are gonna be the first MS studio to melt our eyes in 21 if it releases

Flight Simulator will release in 2021 but its not a first party game. Forza Motorsport will take some time. Also, Flight Simulator uses Asobo's in house engine but they used lot of tools from Turn 10 during development.

 

[Leyasu]

Flight Simulator will release in 2021 but its not a first party game. Forza Motorsport will take some time. Also, Flight Simulator uses Asobo's in house engine but they used lot of tools from Turn 10 during development.

Flight sim is running on forza tech my friend. Google it.

 

[yurinka]

Or, what's equally as likely, is that they've reneged on that crossgen idea. FS2020 is coming next summer and has no XBO or One X versions, even though it would've fallen into the timeframe of having such beforehand. There's rumors of Halo Infinite's XBO version being cancelled, as well.

Seems to me they dropped the "all cross-gen" idea sometime later into August and around September. Smaller games like Grounded will still be cross-gen but 1P aside from that, even in 2021, looks like most of that will be next-gen only.

If I don't mistake all official info plus realistic assumptions of AAA development time and covid impact seems to point that they continue with the 2 years crossgen idea.

What is FS2020 and what is the source saying it will be released next summer? Do you mean Forza Motorsport and you add 2020 because of reasons? What is the source for the 'rumor' saying Halo XBO has been canned? Are these sources credible or just come from a single annonymous internet post?

That has been denied by 343i though.

Starfield will be the first next gen only first party game it seems.

I think it's hard to know which one will be released first.

I think that if we don't know their release year and didn't show gameplay (in alpha stage gameplay, not target cinematics) it's because they won't be released in more than a year. I expect all these big AAA next gen only MS games to be released H2 2022 or later specially now with covid, matching more or less that 'around 2 years of crossgen games' idea.

If not gameplay, if they planned to release in 2021 some of these games it would appear a 2021 on their trailer.

 

[Bernkastel]

Flight sim is running on forza tech my friend. Google it.

5:01

 

[Leyasu]

5:01

Not according to wiki and a dev interview. I haven't got time to search for loads.

Asobo Interview.: FS uses Forza Tech engine, MS investing in Asobo

"Then, we had the great support of Turn 10 during all the years of development of the simulator to learn all the physics, photo-realism, density and base structure of the FTech Engine, which in the version we used, was slightly modified to support the large load of data. " “In short, the visual...

forum.xboxera.com

Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020 video game) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

That has been denied by 343i though.

Starfield will be the first next gen only first party game it seems.

Maybe for now, but I still won't be surprised if the last-gen version is just quietly put aside or something. Personally think it'd be for the best; not even because of technical reasons, but because if they plan on supporting Halo Infinite as GaaS for 10 years, wouldn't a native port to XBO mean they have to support that platform for around another 10 years too?

I think just having it as a streamed game for last-gen could work or, at most, do a native port for now but quickly transition to an Xcloud version for XBO in a couple years post-launch (if not sooner).

 

[Bernkastel]

What is FS2020 and what is the source saying it will be released next summer?

The Xbox release trailer itself.

Critically acclaimed Microsoft Flight Simulator will come to life on the Xbox Series X|S starting Summer 2021.

I think it's hard to know which one will be released first.

I think that if we don't know their release year and didn't show gameplay (in alpha stage gameplay, not target cinematics) it's because they won't be released in more than a year. I expect all these big AAA next gen only MS games to be released H2 2022 or later specially now with covid, matching more or less that 'around 2 years of crossgen games' idea.

If not gameplay, if they planned to release in 2021 some of these games it would appear a 2021 on their trailer.

Here are all the known official dates of upcoming Xbox games with sources

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Regarding Starfield, the guys who gave Starfield leaks(which were later confirmed by Bethesda as one of the employees was wearing a shirt with the same logo as the leaked screenshots) also said that Starfield was targeting 2021(may delay to 2022). Microsoft can't show any Bethesda stuffs until the deal finishes early 2021. Wolfenstein 3 is another project we will see soon.

 

[kingpotato]

Nice list with some decent variety... I can't put my finger on it, but it still feels like they are missing some third person action title or something. Maybe one of the unknown triple A titles/RPGs will fit the bill. Looking forward to more details on Fable for sure.

 

[Bernkastel]

Asobo Interview.: FS uses Forza Tech engine, MS investing in Asobo

"Then, we had the great support of Turn 10 during all the years of development of the simulator to learn all the physics, photo-realism, density and base structure of the FTech Engine, which in the version we used, was slightly modified to support the large load of data. " “In short, the visual...

forum.xboxera.com

You link to a XboxEra forum thread which links to this.

Asobo Studio says it will maintain content support and updates on Microsoft Flight Simulator for 10 years

Company CEO says Microsoft is investing in the studio and its general infrastructure - French studio Bordeaux, Asobo Studio, launched the new edition of Microsoft Flight Simulator, launched last August for Windows 10, which has already accumulated several billion flight hours A game that was...

www.madinfinite.com

This article is known to have mistranslated everything. It says stuffs like "Asobo is working on another project with Microsoft". Sadly everyone picked up this news and believed it.
Here is the original article in French(use Google Translate)

PressReader.com - Digital Newspaper & Magazine Subscriptions

Digital newsstand featuring 7000+ of the world’s most popular newspapers & magazines. Enjoy unlimited reading on up to 5 devices with 7-day free trial.

www.pressreader.com

No mention of Turn 10 and ForzaTech.

Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020 video game) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wikipedia provides this source which has nothing to do with Flight Simulator.

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's Minecraft crossover required 5 years of negotiations

Xbox is excited at the news, too.

www.gamepur.com

Its not just NoClip, Asobo has done many other interviews with Flight Sim YouTubers and always said "in-house engine". Heres another interview.


At 5:11


6:06

 

[Leyasu]

You link to a XboxEra forum thread which links to this.

Asobo Studio says it will maintain content support and updates on Microsoft Flight Simulator for 10 years

Company CEO says Microsoft is investing in the studio and its general infrastructure - French studio Bordeaux, Asobo Studio, launched the new edition of Microsoft Flight Simulator, launched last August for Windows 10, which has already accumulated several billion flight hours A game that was...

www.madinfinite.com

This article is known to have mistranslated everything. It says stuffs like "Asobo is working on another project with Microsoft". Sadly everyone picked up this news and believed it.
Here is the original article in French(use Google Translate)

PressReader.com - Digital Newspaper & Magazine Subscriptions

Digital newsstand featuring 7000+ of the world’s most popular newspapers & magazines. Enjoy unlimited reading on up to 5 devices with 7-day free trial.

www.pressreader.com

No mention of Turn 10 and ForzaTech.

Wikipedia provides this source which has nothing to Flight Simulator.

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's Minecraft crossover required 5 years of negotiations

Xbox is excited at the news, too.

www.gamepur.com

Its not just NoClip, Asobo has done many other interviews with Flight Sim YouTubers and always said "in-house engine". Heres another interview.


At 5:11


6:06

Ok dude. Thanks for the correction.

 

[Warablo]

So wait Microsoft deliberately released a console that won't have any exciting first party games for its first 2 years?
What the fuck have they been doing?

I mean last gen they were supposedly SHIT because they were preparing for next gen.

Last gen was shit because they had like 5 studios and most were working on the failing Kinect games at the time. Now they have 20 something studios working on actual games.

 

[Chukhopops]

You sound young, so I'll let it slide. But they had three
gen's? Og XBox, 360, xbox one, and now going into their 4 gen. So they are a little short in actual decade years which is 10 years. But they have been in the game for three gens, and over 20 years.

And when I say execs im talking people who worked in enterprise. Nintendo and Sony dont come from enterprise. They come from electronics, toys, entertainment/music. Which is why The playstation was such a success when it launched. They had expierence in making high quality marketable products. Microsoft's contribution at the time of their entry was windows. Huge difference in people and company culture. None of those people had backgrounds in anything outside of applications. Some of them came from software mostly so PC software/games was a good transition. J allard, shamous were the only people who knew what they had with the xbox. The rest of the company could give 2 shits. ANd the people they put in charge over the gens shows it. Phil is the only one who has moved up from xbox software, but even his early background started in application software for windows.

So i was off, but all you have to comment is my time was off in how long they have been in the game? Sounds about right from a young poster.

I bet you never even owned a console from the 90's. I have most of my gaming coming from 80's-90's.

Xbox has been run into the ground and never treated the way it should have been. And now going into 4th gen we are waiting till 2022-2023 until we see anything new from them. And honestly the way they have been behind in their GDK/SDK shows how little they give a shit. They dont seem to have any kind of urgency.

It took someone getting promoted to be able to make changes before they got their heads out of their asses. And even so from the outside looking in, phil looked like when he closed studios that he didnt put up a good fight. If phil was/is that passionate on xbox I would have told the entire board that either we drastically change and take xbox serious or I resign. And the fact this took till 2017 to have any kind of change says before hand he let everything play out. Regardless, i would have put my job on the line and told them either we change or im done. How anyone looked at XBox one and said, " gamers will love tv" was good is beyond me.

Im not going to embarrass you any further but here’s a picture of my original Shenmue as well as JSRF and Lost Oddyssey, guess I’m at least old enough to have those. I started with the NES actually but it’s too expensive to collect those days.



The rest of your post is just incredibly ignorant of previous Microsoft generations and what they did in the 360 years. For example you say Microsoft’s contribution at the time of the OG Xbox was Windows, did you know they were publishing games even by 1996 on PC? Midtown Madness is an example of an MS game that was successful before the XBox.

Also Nintendo has had 7 generations so far, have they been in the gaming business since 1950?

 

[Papacheeks]

Im not going to embarrass you any further but here’s a picture of my original Shenmue as well as JSRF and Lost Oddyssey, guess I’m at least old enough to have those. I started with the NES actually but it’s too expensive to collect those days.



The rest of your post is just incredibly ignorant of previous Microsoft generations and what they did in the 360 years. For example you say Microsoft’s contribution at the time of the OG Xbox was Windows, did you know they were publishing games even by 1996 on PC? Midtown Madness is an example of an MS game that was successful before the XBox.

Also Nintendo has had 7 generations so far, have they been in the gaming business since 1950?

You didn't read my post properly obviously. Where in there did I talk about some of the execs not coming from software? Yes they published PC games with Microsoft games studio but it was called something else back then. i didn't play lot of microsoft published games back in those days. I was too busy with Diablo, balder's gate, starcraft, quake, hexen and the likes. I own and OG xbox I'll update this when I get home with my wall of games that span the the master system.

Not saying that we didn not get anything good software wise. My post specifically talks about who was "running" the division. You can have years of great software but still have tone def idiots running it. AKA Don mattrick.

If you go back to my post history i literally talk about xbox's beginnings.

Nintendo has been a toy/electronics company since the 60's. Microsoft didn't have product people who ran that division. The only people who knew what they had were people like you and I iterated on that came from PC games spftware/publishing. ANd those people left very early.

Xbox has never had good direction or anyone behind the wheel with the type of background you see with legacy game company's like Sega, nintendo, sony. And Im a huge sega kid.

To me OG xbox was Dreamcast 2.0. Which was an amazing thing, until they cut it short in 2004-2005.

 

[AntonioBanderasXsX]

So is Banjo happening or not? That's all I want to know

 

[The Alien]

I mean, wasn't this all public knowledge already (and fir some time)?

As fir release dares, based on announcements and statements, anyone can estimate.

Do I think true? Sure.

 

[Devonshire]

Man, I don’t think I can stomach another disappointing Banjo game.

 

[pixelation]

Nothing that would make me consider getting an XB console atm, only exclusive game they had that I wanted to play was CupHead and I am playing that on my PS4 right now (hard ass game!).

 

[Andodalf]

Threads like this really show who knows anything. So many people believe this stuff is legit and it doesn’t even mention SEGA!

 

[Krisprolls]

Not sure how I feel about double fine working on Banjo.

Everwild releasing in 2021 makes zero sense, they answered they didn't even know what the game would be about only a few weeks or a few months ago. It was basically only a concept trailer at that time.

Unless you think building this game from scratch takes only 1 year, which is impossible.

It means the rest must be bullshit too unfortunately.