Support NeoGAF

[Physiognomonics]

Nowhere near steady, down into the forties on this video

It drops to around 50fps when it streams new data but otherwise it's usually stable at 60fps, even in the big city from the footage I have watched.

Slightly higher resolution, more ppedestrians, and better SSAO on Series X

Beware, they are comparing the XSX version running at 30fps against the PS5 version running at 60fps. But in the 60fps mode the PS5 version is outperforming (with a big gap) the XSX version.

Is the xbox sx running in performance mode like the ps5 ?, dam this is a shit show everywhere, they should have delayed it.

No. The XSX version here runs at 30fps.

 

[Captain Toad]

PS5 looking like the winner right now.

I'll still wait for the actual next-gen versions though.

 

[Superayate]

Mistake from me

 

[LittleBusters]

PS5 looking like the winner right now.

I'll still wait for the actual next-gen versions though.

That's because CDPR had access to PS5 devkit 6 months earlier. I bet in 6 months the XSX version will be way better.

 

[LostDonkey]

Last gen should be renamed Cyberjunk.

That is tragic and unacceptable. Shouldn't have even bothered.

 

[Physiognomonics]

No, the pictures from Resero are in performance mode on XsX in these captures.

No. It's running at 30fps on XSX. You can test yourself: Pause the youtube video (at 60fps) and press the shortcut to see the next unique frame. You'll see it's updated on only one on 2 frames on XSX.

 

[Yams]

That's because CDPR had access to PS5 devkit 6 months earlier. I bet in 6 months the XSX version will be way better.

PS5 and Series X/S dev kits are irrelevant. Both the Series X and PS5 are running the previous generation's version in back compat mode. We're seeing the Pro version against the One X version.

 

[Superayate]

That's because CDPR had access to PS5 devkit 6 months earlier. I bet in 6 months the XSX version will be way better.

This is BC, so not linked to that. But doing comparison with BC version, not sure it is very interesting in fact.

 

[Superayate]

No. It's running at 30fps on XSX. You can test yourself: Pause the youtube video (at 60fps) and press the shortcut to see the next unique frame. You'll see it's updated on only one on 2 frames on XSX.

Yes, I have run the video in better condition and saw that, that's idiot to use two differents modes for their comparison.

 

[Dlacy13g]

I will take the better looking locked 30fps quality mode over either 60fps version at this stage.

 

[Great Hair]

Everyone seems to forget, this game was 9 years in the oven iirc. After watching some reviewer, streamers ... i would be bored out of my mind while doing one of those "detective flashbacks" segments.

Will buy 2021 for a tenner.

 

[BeardGawd]

It seems Ps5 is locked 1200p, xsx is dynamic 1200p with drops to 1080p. Soon we will know by vgtech or DF or nx gamer

From other forum. Both using performance mode:

PS5 - Peak Resolution: 2176x936

Xbox Series X - Peak Resolution: 2688x1584

The difference between both is 21% Horizontal and 51% Vertical

I've also noticed that the Xbox has better texture filtering by a small margin, and higher resolution shadows. This can be easily seen during the day near the apartment area and looking at the shadows cast by the bridge on the road.

 

[vkbest]

Nowhere near steady, down into the forties on this video

The guy have a problem with the game, that sections was much smoother on my PS5.

Edit. You can compare for yourself. Just recorded this gameplay. I’m sure he is playing from a external hard drive

 

[Riky]

It drops to around 50fps when it streams new data but otherwise it's usually stable at 60fps, even in the big city from the footage I have watched.

Watch the video, it dips well into the forties, often.

 

[Kagey K]

From other forum. Both using performance mode:

This thread has been a good barometer for who actually knows their shit and who has no idea WTF they are looking at and should be ignored in all comparison threads going forward.

 

[Riky]

From other forum. Both using performance mode:

It would be very odd for the PS4 Pro version to have a higher resolution than X1X since that never happens, I'll wait for DF but this is more in line with expectations unlike the laughable claims some have been making.

 

[NorthStar]

From other forum. Both using performance mode:

Link Please because I am skeptical

 

[Radical_3d]

The guy have a problem with the game, that sections was much smoother on my PS5.

Edit. You can compare for yourself. Just recorded this gameplay. I’m sure he is playing from a external hard drive

Eh... without a frame counter is hard to tell...

 

[Elios83]

No. It's running at 30fps on XSX. You can test yourself: Pause the youtube video (at 60fps) and press the shortcut to see the next unique frame. You'll see it's updated on only one on 2 frames on XSX.

Yes, I have run the video in better condition and saw that, that's idiot to use two differents modes for their comparison.

LOL so some people are trying to mud waters until proper comparisons arrive, I'm shocked
As an advice wait for people who actually know how to do this stuff instead of believing bullshit from random users on message boards.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

Didn't the witcher 3 get tons of patches to make it playable? So the choices are either play in its current state if performance isnt a big deal or wait for the patches.

I played on PS5 and had no crashes and the frame rate was rock solid for the most part.

Feel sorry for PS4 users but thems the shakes. It’s a 7 year old machine not sure what to tell you. PS5 version is a solid base to start from that will only look better with time.

 

[vkbest]

Eh... without a frame counter is hard to tell...

Compare the minute 1:10 from that video with my video (0:37).

If you can’t see differences it’s you don’t need take care about fps

 

[Dolomite]

It drops to around 50fps when it streams new data but otherwise it's usually stable at 60fps, even in the big city from the footage I have watched.


Beware, they are comparing the XSX version running at 30fps against the PS5 version running at 60fps. But in the 60fps mode the PS5 version is outperforming (with a big gap) the XSX version.


No. The XSX version here runs at 30fps.

Maybe for this video capture. I'd wait for the DF comparison we should get in a few days. 30/60 frames would affect resolution before it correlated with NPC's on screen btw

 

[BeardGawd]

Link Please because I am skeptical

Cyberpunk 2077 |OT| Welcome to Night City (READ THE OP BEFORE YOU POST)

Hey there! I'm no Digital Foundry, but I decided to do Pixel Counts between both the Performance Mode on the Series X which is also the default mode and only mode of the PS5. Even if I'm off a bit, I believe the information is still representative of the gap in pixel count regardless, which can...

www.resetera.com

 

[Mr Moose]

Link Please because I am skeptical

Cyberpunk 2077 |OT| Welcome to Night City (READ THE OP BEFORE YOU POST)

Epileptic PSA: There are reports that animations and flashing lights in this game can cause seizures. Read this article for more information Why is there controversy surrounding CD Projekt Red and Cyberpunk 2077? CD Projekt Red has a history of transphobia. This is well documented at this...

www.resetera.com

However the interesting part, is that the Playstation version does seem to be better due to consistency. It's a really odd situation, because I have went back and forth countless times and it doesn't feel like it quite makes sense. It's almost as if while the PS5 is running at a lower resolution, the dips are less frequent in the dynamic scaling and allows the image consistency to bring a better overall presentation. I think it oddly has to do with the fact the shadows are a lower resolution as well. Since there are less dark edges around the TAA and Dynamic Scaling on objects, it seems like it allows those edges to "pop" a little more and appear crisp. I assume this is purely due to the TAA/Scaling issues with blending nearby pixels during the variances on Xbox.

I noticed less dithering on distance foliage as well on the PS5. The performance between the both is similar, but that can be seen on videos already.

All and all it's hard to pick one of the two. They're both identical nearly, even though they shouldn't be.

It looks... OK I guess? Nothing special.

 

[TheDude108]

However the interesting part, is that the Playstation version does seem to be better due to consistency. It's a really odd situation, because I have went back and forth countless times and it doesn't feel like it quite makes sense. It's almost as if while the PS5 is running at a lower resolution, the dips are less frequent in the dynamic scaling and allows the image consistency to bring a better overall presentation. I think it oddly has to do with the fact the shadows are a lower resolution as well. Since there are less dark edges around the TAA and Dynamic Scaling on objects, it seems like it allows those edges to "pop" a little more and appear crisp. I assume this is purely due to the TAA/Scaling issues with blending nearby pixels during the variances on Xbox.

I noticed less dithering on distance foliage as well on the PS5. The performance between the both is similar, but that can be seen on videos already.

Nice how people decided to leave this part out.

 

[Physiognomonics]

From other forum. Both using performance mode:

No, that's bullshit. XSX is 1600p at 30fps. And PS5 is usually around 1100-1200p at 60fps.

 

[cebri.one]

From other forum. Both using performance mode:

Is not even 16:9 format. The image would be stretched at those resolutions.

Actually 2176x936 is almost the same resolution of 1080p so why not use a 16:9 format and 1080p resolution. Smells like BS to me. Probably he doesn't know how to do it.

edit: a 2176 horizontal res, using 16:9 would get you a 1280p resolution which is close to what has been reported before.

 

[Radical_3d]

Compare the minute 1:10 from that video with my video (0:37).

If you can’t see differences it’s you don’t need take care about fps

I don't care about fps. I'm blind as a mole XDDD

 

[cebri.one]

 

[sinnergy]

No, that's bullshit. XSX is 1600p at 30fps. And PS5 is usually around 1100-1200p at 60fps.

With less characters on screen .. but who is counting

 

[Mr Moose]

With less characters on screen .. but who is counting

It's almost like people walk around, weird huh.

 

[GHG]

First PS4 review doing the rounds:

TEST de Cyberpunk 2077 (PS4) : Génération désenchantée

Après avoir été plus que charmés par une version PC faisant figure de vaisseau parfait pour ses ambitions, Cyberpunk 2077 nous est enfin parvenu dans sa version dédiée aux consoles de la génération précédente. Et pour que vous ayez notre ressenti exact, il suffit de penser au titre d'un film de...

www.gameblog.fr

4/10

PC version for comparison:

TEST de Cyberpunk 2077 (PC) : Les possibilités d'une ville

Après un The Witcher 2 : Assassins of Kings qui a prouvé sa valeur au grand public - et même à Barack Obama - puis un The Witcher III : Wild Hunt qui lui a permis de s'inviter à la table des gros bonnets, CD Projekt RED est surveillé. La hype, en partie due à la présence de Keanu Reeves, et les...

www.gameblog.fr

10/10

 

[Gojko_of_Rivia]

This is not a joke, it actually looks this bad on Series X. Console version is absolute joke, Night City is turned into ghost town because of weak cpu. Either play on PC or wait for PS5 next gen patch/ Series X tools. Empty streets are deal breaker in game like this.

 

[Bladed Thesis]

This is not a joke, it actually looks this bad on Series X. Console version is absolute joke, Night City is turned into ghost town because of weak cpu. Either play on PC or wait for PS5 next gen patch/ Series X tools. Empty streets are deal breaker in game like this.

You own a Series X? Post some screens, fam.

 

[Elios83]

This is not a joke, it actually looks this bad on Series X. Console version is absolute joke, Night City is turned into ghost town because of weak cpu. Either play on PC or wait for PS5 next gen patch/ Series X tools. Empty streets are deal breaker in game like this.

Seems like this game should have been released next spring....

 

[BeardGawd]

This is not a joke, it actually looks this bad on Series X. Console version is absolute joke, Night City is turned into ghost town because of weak cpu. Either play on PC or wait for PS5 next gen patch/ Series X tools. Empty streets are deal breaker in game like this.

That guy is now saying the XSX screen might not be legit.

This whole thing has been a clusterfuck of misinformation combined with console wars and pc master race.

 

[JORMBO]

 

[Great Hair]

 

[Hugare]

I buy the hardware excuse to an extent

Sure, the game is demanding. But c'mon, its running at 720p. It should run better than this on base consoles.

RDR 2 runs at 1080p 30fps. Cutting the resolution to 720p gives then A LOT of power to use from the console.

There was never an open world game that ran at 720p on currentg en consoles, to put it on perspective.

They had to develop for 8 platforms at the same time, and its pretty obvious to me that they didnt spend so much time trying to optimize the game for current gen hardware.

Hopefully, they will improve them with patches, because its really embarassing right now

 

[sinnergy]

That guy is now saying the XSX screen might not be legit.

This whole thing has been a clusterfuck of misinformation combined with console wars and pc master race.

A clusterfuck of what ? Tweets?

 

[Kagey K]

Technically it’s actually XB1X running on the series X.

 

[BeardGawd]

A clusterfuck of what ? Tweets?

Comparisons period. Some using different modes. Some using Xbox One versions and saying they are XSX. All the wildly conflicting reports in regards to resolution, framerates, etc... will just have to play for myself later today.

 

[Night.Ninja]

This thread has been a good barometer for who actually knows their shit and who has no idea WTF they are looking at and should be ignored in all comparison threads going forward.

Seriously lol

Too many arm chair dickwads

 

[tuco11]

My buddy preordered the base Xbox one version sight unseen LOL!! Luckily he didnt play it yet. i told him to get a refund . Wow last gen looks brutal especially base Xbox one.

 

[Night.Ninja]

My buddy preordered the base Xbox one version sight unseen LOL!! Luckily he didnt play it yet. i told him to get a refund . Wow last gen looks brutal especially base Xbox one.

Did you tell him to save his money and build a PC?

 

[Yams]

My buddy preordered the base Xbox one version sight unseen LOL!! Luckily he didnt play it yet. i told him to get a refund . Wow last gen looks brutal especially base Xbox one.

Can't imagine anyone on the base consoles being happy. Sub 20 frames was barely tolerated in the 360 generation and certainly wasn't acceptable this past generation.

 

[EDMIX]

Can't imagine anyone on the base consoles being happy. Sub 20 frames was barely tolerated in the 360 generation and certainly wasn't acceptable this past generation.

Agreed. Absolutely unacceptable, wtf was going on at CDPR?

Hugare Completely agreed.

Rockstar released GTAV literally the year PS4 and XONE came out knowing it was coming out and (crazy I know) FOCUSED ON THE FUCKING PLATFORMS THEY PROMISED TO RELEASE ON!

PS4 and XONE versions came a year later, PC versions came a year later. Red Dead 2 PC version came a year later as well.

They don't just fuck everyone over desperately trying to cash grab, hide reviews, stop people from show footage of bugs etc. This game should have had its focus on current systems, period.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Compare the minute 1:10 from that video with my video (0:37).

If you can’t see differences it’s you don’t need take care about fps

Indeed it's much better in your video in the same exact scenes. I think VGTech and NXGamer upcoming videos are going to 'surprise' many people about this game.

 

[Caio]

Who the fooking and freaking hell does care about this comparison ??? This Game must be played on a RTX 3080, there is nothing more to say. I'm not a PC gamer, I never was, but a part of me is thinking about...maybe a beast of a PC built around a RTX 3080, beside the PS5, for me, I say again, for me the best combination of Next Gen.

 

[cebri.one]

Still looks like shit compared to this lol.