Let's also not forget about the person that created the Digital Foundry Tools - Craig Linneman
He always goes under the radar, but he has been responsible for pitching lots of defense shields for MS...."I heard it's the tools", well ok, and the XBOX bandwagon ran with it.......Again to nothing. Oh, the lower performance in AC is a bug.....Wait for the patch, only for Ubisoft to do what we all know they had to, decrease XBOX resolution to 1188 and even as low as 1080p according to Vgtech to boost framerates on Series X and to minimize tearing......Yet they all felt, it was only a bug and the "former artist formerly known as the world's most powerful console", would be patched up and outpace PS5 in settings and performance at 4K native locked 60fps......It's the tools man.....
Has anyone actually verified the xsx can do 12 TF ?
XSX is less performant in more aspects of the GPU over PS5......Higher clocks is greater than more CU's on the same RDNA 2 architecture....The problem with Series X is that apart from PS5 having higher clocks, it also has many other customized designs on board that quickens rendering at the GPU, CPU, Mem and IO level....You look at the PS5 design and they have 1up'd the PS4 design with it's 20Gb/s bus that connected CPU. GPU and MEM closer. PS5 is a whole other level in that design in how they have positioned the APU, the memory config with the SSD chips soldered onboard....The gains you will gain with all the communicating members so close knit will be extraordinary, when it comes to speed and rendering.......As Cerny said, don't expect PS5 to hit it's stride yet, it's only the beginning, those 12 gates on the IO DMAC, that sound SPU, those cache scrubbers are going to do things you can never replicate on XBOX.....Then the geometry engine is equivalent to the Exotic setup of the PS3 or the VU's on PS2, the GE with cache scrubbers and HBCC through the IO will do things that even the new Ampere GPU's will struggle to do in realtime.......Again, PS first party will continue to dominate this gen, but even moreso to how fast and performant the hardware is with lots of room left to squeeze out more and more as time passes....
Yup, but we dont have to hear about it in every single thread.
This is a tech thread, it's all about discussing the minute details....If you want to discuss gameplay, I'm sure there are a million vacant OT's where no one will impede on if you are having fun with 69% meta games or lower performance multiplat games...Here we discuss the tech, like we have been doing since millennia....What console has the better effects, the better performance, the better lighting, AA, AF etc...
I remember a time XBOX fans were so sure that they would dominate multi's at a landslide level, they all anticipated third party games as a time when they would beat their chests, they called a 40-50fps uptick over PS5 at 4k native, whilst PS5 would struggle at 1440p or even planted FUD as far as 1080p below 30fps on RE8 vs 4K 60fps on XBOX........Many chants on "the world's most powerful console", "8TF at best for PS5", upon spec reveal, they could not even agree and discuss the actual PS5 spec, they wanted to chop PS5 down even more, so they came in packs from the discord, singing the same harmony and fud-hosannas, many were banned for the 9TF OC'd spiel, they didn't even want to give PS5 it's 10.23TF credits......Even DF is in disbelief and dishing out content like a dripping pipe in the Sahara.....They were all involved in the fake hype instead of looking at the specs and discussing it in a realistic and professional manner......So many guys wanted SSD threads closed, the next gen thread closed, they didn't want to hear reason, that PS5 was simply faster on many levels over Series X, it's a shame that a tech outlet behaved that way and were the chief ones propagating "World's most powerful console" as if they were the most tethered to Phil's umbilical. So in typical fashion, XBOX fans clinged unto DF's 8TF at best videos, no hardware raytracing, no ML, no VRS, no 1440p, Sony has shown Nothing, we are not going to do a PS5 breakdown video, and of course their legendary "XBOX has more 120Hz games over PS5"....XBOX fans clinged unto these spiels and PR fellating pieces as flies on rice......Meanwhile, level heads were discussing the real deal in the next gen tech thread, pulling up all the figures and extrapolating what we could expect in realtime vis a vis the the different engineering profiles of these consoles.........So in the end, sound reason, not obfuscating detail and truth wins......Breaking sticks in your ears, has no effect on reality and results....
LOL What?! Are you fucking kidding me?
Did you see the state of this forum after Road to PS5 dropped? You could barely hold a decent conversation regarding any of the specs of both consoles without being trolled relentlessly by an Xbox fan.
There are many examples of people just trying to discuss specs (without any fanboy ism) and you'd have the thread thrown into disarray because some Xbox fans entered to remind you of the 12TF monster Xbox and how the PS5 is going to suffer against the power king.
This happened daily in multiple threads and was one of the reasons I took a short break from the forum.
So please, kindly STFU with that noise. There wouldn't be any gloating if it wasn't for the endless months of trolling from camp XBOX.
Amen, smacking post.....It's like you are Zeus dishing it out from Mount Olympus.....
Did you know that those clowns were begging for 9TF comment to not be bannable in the ban review thread? They were extremely aggressive with horde mentality and now you find them crying and acting "mature" to ease the pain of all the backfires of Microsoft's lies and FUD.
Yeah, it's so funny seeing all the..."The MS guys have had enough, let's be mature about it", Where was that maturity in the Next Gen thread or in any thread where were trying to discuss the SSD, the console spec, the controller, the tempest Engine......It was all bombarded with suicide bombers and Discord lemmings.
The worse thing is when, people come in hard and are relentless and unwavering in their FUD ands evil, reminds me of game of thrones, but when judgment times comes to them, they are so quick to ask mercy......It is only then they want to turn a new leaf or see the need for peace and civil exchanges......PS guys are not even bothering XBOX guys as they have done us. Trying to get us mass banned, using likes, laughs and triggered as a war tool, using Discords to plan how they would attack forums in droves....Even now, no PS guy, even cares, we are just happy that we have the best console as we always anticipated and are discussing the findings in these tech threads.....You think if XBOX was winning these faceoffs, even if it was not the 20-60% uptick they anticipated, they would be calm and Kumbaya about it.....They would be defacing Cerny's name right now, boosting their meme power threads and calling Jim Ryan a hack, so this fake "let's discuss this civilly" is unwarranted, because no PS fan is harassing any XBOX fan, we are just discussing and highlighting the superiority of PS5 in these multiplat games.....better foliage, better effects, better resolution, better framerates....This is no coincidence to those who paid attention to reason and logic.....
Oh and, one thing I have seen and maybe commented on before.....In as much as they say the next gen thread was a Sony safe space, we all discussed and learnt much there, many receipts were presented and good discussions ensued.....I remember going to the ban thread off and on and the hate and vitriol by mostly XBOX fans there was unsettling, it was their safe space, it was where many of them came to congregate to pent out their anger towards Sony fans, that and the Meta thread, and it's also where they went to ask for the closure of the next gen thread, suck up to mods and constantly ask for the bans of many Sony fans.....In essence, it was their safe space, Sony fans could not even go and ask for a pardon for a member without being harrassed and overtaken in responses and emoji responses by the same set of ban thread dwellers, instead of allowing us dialog with the mods on the issue, members who act like they are mods, would rush in and always write up a nothing piece as if they are so elevated.....It's a ban thread, allow members to have dialogue with the mods on pardons for members without all the bombardment and clutter........What's funny, it's the same guys who asked clemency for permed members who constantly insulted and harrassed other members on this forum.....So the hypocrisy is real here......These same members never spoke out against all the FUD that the Discord and MS group were pushing, but people are just discussing the tech, which shows all PS wins and now, they want us all to say "it's negligible", "they are like for like".....No they are not....No one is harassing anyone in these threads, we are just discussing the tech, where in the PS3 days a 40P difference was a world away better on the 360.....
