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[cucuchu]

Luv the machine and UI just need new games

This.

Great machine, great interface, great features, it just feels lackluster because there is nothing unique to it that takes advantage of its potential. (yet)

 

[Hezekiah]

The thing is Microsoft are going for this PC-lite approach, focusing on the hardware and teraflops, perhaps not realising that console gamers are different to PC gamers and want new experiences with a new console.

Just banging on about teraflops and backwards-compatibility, and bringing the same controller, the same UI, and no new exclusives isn't good enough.

By all accounts Sony are holding games back because of the lack of competition.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

You mean its just an amped up Xbox One and PS5 is a new console generation?

Who knew?

 

[Yoboman]

The replies in here

 

[Frito_Pendejo]

Ahh whatever. I’m enjoying mine.

 

[massivekettle]

I agree. Massive anticlimax.

When the only good thing people can talk about is quick resume you know you've released a stinker.

They have a job on their hands in the next 12 months to make it the platform they promised and more.

Eh, GamePass?

This article from Forbes is pure rubbish. To be honest, both PS5 and XSX launches were disappointing, and in many respects we have COVID to blame.

By all accounts Sony are holding games back because of the lack of competition.

Sony is a publicly-listed company with shareholders to answer to. The odds of this being accurate are close to nil. If Sony had the games ready, they would have launched them to deliver killing blows to the competition.

 

[GHG]

Eh, GamePass?

This article from Forbes is pure rubbish. To be honest, both PS5 and XSX launches were disappointing, and in many respects we have COVID to blame.

What's new about gamepass exactly?

 

[LisaMariaMartin]

Meanwhile, people who bought the console are busy playing the avalanche of games they get thrown at them with GP.

I only see PS stans complaining about the lack of games to be honest. Does it suck that there isn't a next gen only title? Yes. But I only think about it for a second before I pick up another game.

 

[SafeOrAlone]

In crude terms, I'd give the launch a 7.5 out of 10.

Everything is fantastic other than the launch lineup. Halo (if good) would have helped, but even then there isn't much new to show off on the horizon and that is a flaw. That said, it's greatly alleviated by the strides in backwards compatibility and accessibility.

 

[Clintizzle]

There is nothing wrong with an amped-up Xbox One X.

 

[rodrigolfp]

"dynamic lighting is on a whole new level "

Is it??? What game used RT for lighting???

 

[Yoboman]

Meanwhile, people who bought the console are busy playing the avalanche of games they get thrown at them with GP.

I only see PS stans complaining about the lack of games to be honest. Does it suck that there isn't a next gen only title? Yes. But I only think about it for a second before I pick up another game.

Game pass has been out for a long time on Xbox One. Does Series X offer some mountain of games in GP that One X didn't already?

 

[massivekettle]

What's new about gamepass exactly?

They've been adding a shit ton of content to it in the past few months, such as the arrival of EA Play.

The author is missing the point that Microsoft and Sony have gone their own separate way strategy and marketing-wise.

 

[jimbojim]

They've been adding a shit ton of content to it in the past few months,

PS Now is no sluch either regarding 3rd party games

 

[GHG]

They've been adding a shit ton of content to it in the past few months, such as the arrival of EA Play.

The author is missing the point that Microsoft and Sony have gone their own separate way strategy and marketing-wise.

Oh so you need a Series X to get access to gamepass?

Must be my imagination then that I'm a subscriber without having one.

 

[zwiggelbig]

That's a bold, and frankly ignorant, claim for him to make. If they manage to get God of War 2 out next year I'll eat my fucking hat. Late spring 2022 at a minimum is more realistic. No idea why he wouldn't use Ratchet & Clank instead when that's practically a 2021 guarantee.

He also neglected to mention the fact that you can happily play Horizon 2 on PS4. Might change, almost definitely won't.

As someone who loves his PS5, this article is kinda bullshitty considering the best "new experiences" on PS5 right now are a 4 hour platformer and a PS3 remake.

I think the only reason they said was 2021 was why the fuck not? It helps with more hype and gives this outlook of another amazing game comming soon. Nobody wil care if they delay it in 2021 to 2022. the marketing has been done with it.

I agree with the post but lots of members on this forum could have said that and did not need someone from forbes to tell us this lol.
The series x is just a more powerful xbox one x and thats it. It has nothing new. No amazing new games in the near future, no new functions like the dual sense. But lots of people get it for Gamepass. Its amazing value and it stil gives next gen feeling due to how strong it is and how fast it runs

 

[massivekettle]

Oh so you need a Series X to get access to gamepass?

Must be my imagination then that I'm a subscriber without having one.

You don't, but it's a selling point of the console regardless, with the added benefit of running Xbone and prior gen games in an enhanced manner on XSX. With a lack of Halo Infinite, Microsoft clearly hammered that point, especially with the EA Play deal.

 

[Hezekiah]

Eh, GamePass?

This article from Forbes is pure rubbish. To be honest, both PS5 and XSX launches were disappointing, and in many respects we have COVID to blame.



Sony is a publicly-listed company with shareholders to answer to. The odds of this being accurate are close to nil. If Sony had the games ready, they would have launched them to deliver killing blows to the competition.

They're not announcing game they have coming, like the second BluePoint game, whatever Kojima is working on, not to mention the San Diego studio, and whatever else they have under wraps so I think you're wrong.

 

[TrebleShot]

This is precisely why I cancelled my XSX pre order, I haven't regretted that decision in fact I've felt quite vindicated in that regard.

Its a horrible boring ecosystem and console.

The only thing it has going for it is power and even that doesn't seem to be coming to fruition.

Just my opinion.

 

[Thirty7ven]

It’s for people who love Xbox.

 

[massivekettle]

The series x is just a more powerful xbox one x and thats it. It has nothing new. No amazing new games in the near future, no new functions like the dual sense. But lots of people get it for Gamepass. Its amazing value and it stil gives next gen feeling due to how strong it is and how fast it runs

Can you enlighten me on what new the PS5 has brought so far to the table, beside DualSense?

IMO, as it stands, both consoles are simply more powerful iterations of their predecessors, save for 1 or 2 features. We will have to wait another year or so for the developers to truly harness the power of these new machines and also innovate on gameplay.

 

[jimbojim]

Can you enlighten me on what new the PS5 has brought so far to the table, beside DualSense?

New 1st party exclusive games and Bugsnax on PS+

 

[massivekettle]

They're not announcing game they have coming, like the second BluePoint game, whatever Kojima is working on, not to mention the San Diego studio, and whatever else they have under wraps so I think you're wrong.

Except every publisher in the industry (including Microsoft) is working on projects that are yet to be announced. It's not specific to Sony.

I misunderstood your earlier post; I thought you meant Sony was delaying GoW/GT on purpose as they didn't need to release them now given lack of new exclusives on XSX.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Been the story since 2010.
But wait till e3 2021 guys.... all those new studios.... Its gonna be the best lineup ever - Phi Spencer


Best thing Xbox has done in the last 10 years is Ori (which is on Nintendo and PC ) and Quick resume For Xbox series.
Forza too I guess. Thats it

 

[massivekettle]

New 1st party exclusive games

A remake of a 11-year old game and a 10-hour expansion of a prior-gen game. Doesn't really qualify as killer next-gen apps.

PS5 has the better launch line-up on balance, I think that's undeniable, but ultimately it's still lacklustre overall. Personally, I don't see any point of owning either of those new consoles until next Summer at the earliest.

 

[Hezekiah]

Except every publisher in the industry (including Microsoft) is working on projects that are yet to be announced. It's not specific to Sony.

I misunderstood your earlier post; I thought you meant Sony was delaying GoW/GT on purpose as they didn't need to release them now given lack of new exclusives on XSX.

I think you've missed the point....

 

[Coolwhhip]

A remake of a 11-year old game and a 10-hour expansion of a prior-gen game. Doesn't really qualify as killer next-gen apps.

Yet they both are.

 

[Ash Sparrow]

You can tell the Bethesda news still got people shook. When its time nothing will stop the onslaught.

 

[Coolwhhip]

You can tell the Bethesda news still got people shook. When its time nothing will stop the onslaught.

Your dreams seem powered.

 

[jimbojim]

A remake of a 11-year old game and a 10-hour expansion of a prior-gen game. Doesn't really qualify as killer next-gen apps.

Said by salty Xbox fan. Demon's Souls is a totally revamped PS3 game for next-gen in full sense. And it is better than the original in every way.
Miles is no sluch either. Full standalone game with 15-20 hours of play ( main story + side quests). That's very decent for "expansion". LOL
And Miles is a better game than original Spiderman on PS4 even if it is shorter.

 

[Dabaus]

Its true and you know it. Deep down you know it and are trying to justify the money you wasted.

 

[Riky]

If only Microsoft has farmed out a port of a decade old game for launch, then it would be fine.

 

[Coolwhhip]

If only Microsoft has farmed out a port of a decade old game for launch, then it would be fine.

And they cant even do that.

 

[John Day]

Ask me the same question in atleast 2 or so years, and I’ll have an answer. Too early yet for me to call it such.

I wanna see where MS is taking this train.

Oh, as for 2020? Nah... still I don’t think that would be it.

 

[massivekettle]

Said by salty Xbox fan. Demon's Souls is a totally revamped PS3 game for next-gen in full sense. And it is better than the original in every way.
Miles is no sluch either. Full standalone game with 15-20 hours of play ( main story + side quests). That's very decent for "expansion". LOL
And Miles is a better game than original Spiderman on PS4.

Eh. Try again, mate - I own every Playstations.

According to How Long to Beat, Spiderman MM takes between 7-11 hours for the main story + side quest, with the full completion (i.e., doing all the bloat-y stuff) in c. 15 hours, so about half your estimate.

As for Souls, it still remains a game that's 2 gens old at its core, no matter how good the revamp.

 

[Coolwhhip]

Ask me the same question in atleast 2 or so years, and I’ll have an answer. Too early yet for me to call it such.

I wanna see where MS is taking this train.

This is the Xbox owner mantra.

 

[GHG]

You don't, but it's a selling point of the console regardless, with the added benefit of running Xbone and prior gen games in an enhanced manner on XSX. With a lack of Halo Infinite, Microsoft clearly hammered that point, especially with the EA Play deal.

Yeh Well it would help if you actually read the points being discussed in this thread.

The point is that the Series X offers little new if you already have access to the Xbox ecosystem on a previously available device.

Quick resume and better performing BC are not enough for most people to spend money on the system. Most people want new experiences, unique experiences and innovation. If you don't want any of those things then I'm sure you'll be fine with the series X as it is at the moment but don't act all confused when other people don't share your views.

 

[dorkimoe]

Op must not have played avengers

 

[phil_t98]

Its true and you know it. Deep down you know it and are trying to justify the money you wasted.

hows it money wasted?

 

[DustQueen]

Does it play games?

 

[RoboFu]

Very underwhelming and same ole at launch for sure. Keeping the same UI and not having a new show stopper at launch causes this feeling for sure.
I don’t think any of this will matter in a year but for now I do wish there was a little more “newness” to it.

 

[phil_t98]

Yeh Well it would help if you actually read the points being discussed in this thread.

The point is that the Series X offers little new if you already have access to the Xbox ecosystem on a previously available device.

Quick resume and better performing BC are not enough for most people to spend money on the system. Most people want new experiences, unique experiences and innovation. If you don't want any of those things then I'm sure you'll be fine with the series X as it is at the moment but don't act all confused when other people don't share your views.

Can say the same of the ps5 currantly, performs better back compat titles and 2 titles you can’t play on last gen

 

[jimbojim]

Eh. Try again, mate - I own every Playstations.

According to How Long to Beat, Spiderman MM takes between 7-11 hours for the main story + side quest, with the full completion (i.e., doing all the bloat-y stuff) in c. 15 hours, so about half your estimate.

As for Souls, it still remains a game that's 2 gens old at its core, no matter how good the revamp.

.
I'm sure you did own every PS platform. :/
Wow, i've missed for Morales few hours. OMG.
So what if the Demon's at its core is a 2 gens old game. It's totally redone for next-gen and it's a next gen game in full sense. So, how's going playing Backward compatibility games on your XSX with auto HDR?

 

[SegaManAU]

I personally think that both the Xbox Series X and PS5 should have launched next year. There was no need to launch this year with both systems not really having any killer launch titles. Plus a launch next year would have given them enough time to make more systems avaliable.

 

[splattered]

You mean its just an amped up Xbox One and PS5 is a new console generation?

Who knew?

I'm assuming you are referring to the Dualsense controller because that is pretty much the only thing that really differentiates the two machines.

Personally i think it's kind of silly to only consider one machine a new console generation just based on its controller.

 

[GHG]

Can say the same of the ps5 currantly, performs better back compat titles and 2 titles you can’t play on last gen

I can only speak personally but one of those exclusive titles was enough to sell me on getting a PS5 as soon as I can and I've also double dipped on a couple of multiplatform games that were on sale because of the excellent controller implementation (borderlands 3 and wrc 9).

Meanwhile on the Series X, even if I didn't also have a gaming PC, what's supposed to sell me on one? Quick resume?

This is the consequence of having no exclusive launch titles and being lazy with any tangible innovations. Even the UI is the same for goodness sake.

 

[FrankWza]

At least he didn’t pour it on talking about the series s.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

I would agree, but I didn't buy it to play games with it now. I bought it for testing gamepass and the future releases that will come out.

 

[Tmack]

I get over the quick resumes comments about it being great since is works most times.... WHAT?

This is like car breaks, it`s supposed to work all the time, no excuses. If it doesn`t work "sometimes" this is a very shit car that nobody will trust to ride on.

 

[Riky]

Eh. Try again, mate - I own every Playstations.

According to How Long to Beat, Spiderman MM takes between 7-11 hours for the main story + side quest, with the full completion (i.e., doing all the bloat-y stuff) in c. 15 hours, so about half your estimate.

As for Souls, it still remains a game that's 2 gens old at its core, no matter how good the revamp.

Very true, plus Miles is on PS4 also.