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PS5’s True “Generation-Defining” Games Won’t Come Until 2022 Says Jim Ryan

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
Jim Ryan ruined PlayStation with PC and Crossgen.

Just ignore all of the revenue growth with PC and the lack of market overlap. Never mind the that crossgen games are precedented and now the transition is even smoother thanks to cross-play, back compat, and upgrades. Forget the fact that it always takes about 2 years for a generation to really start to come into its own.
 
For the people who are upset, what year do you think the first "Generation-Defining" PS4/Xbox One games were released? Was it year one? When they had less than 1.5 year on the hardware? Or was it like year 2/3? After they've had sufficient time with the hardware and actually started development completely on the new hardware? Like I'm not sure If people are actually upset or if some of you are just trolling :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

VFXVeteran

Banned
Go troll somewhere else. You shtick is well past old. 🤡👌

Telling the truth man. Just wish some of you would accept it. It's already bitten you several times already. Why keep dreaming the big dream over and over again when you have all the data right in front of you.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Telling the truth man. Just wish some of you would accept it. It's already bitten you several times already. Why keep dreaming the big dream over and over again when you have all the data right in front of you.

This is all in your head.

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Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
I'll explain it in an even simpler way and with very basic words for your benefit.

In no shape or form, Jim Ryan said there won't be PS5 exclusives until 2022. It would also be a pretty silly thing to say since there already are.

Try a little bit harder, please.

Can't quite hear you, just browsing the catalogue of cross-gen games they've got in store.
 

Abriael_GN

RSI Employee of the Year
Telling the truth man. Just wish some of you would accept it. It's already bitten you several times already. Why keep dreaming the big dream over and over again when you have all the data right in front of you.

Actually, the truth is that after a couple of years of a generation the games that really start to show the potential of that generation do start to come out. It indeed has been seen several times already. Literally once per generation since the start of generations. There is zero reason to believe that this one will be different.

Can't quite hear you, just browsing the catalogue of cross-gen games they've got in store.

All I can recommend is a reality check, on top of a quieter browser. Both might help with your comprehension issues.
 
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The latest spidey game isn't really what next gen is about, sure it has ray tracing and slightly better assets - but a true "Next Gen" title wont be able to release cross platform without massive visual compromise

It is next gen in that it is utilizing slightly high poly asset's, ray tracing, and better framerates. Real next gen game's are going to look starkly better than what's been showcased - which is actually not common for the console industry.
 

Vtecomega

Banned
That guy is wishing upon a star.

Those words are so misleading and that's why people expect CGI graphics from nothing but a mid-low end graphics card. It's not in the cards.

All the bandwidth is already taken up in higher pixel count.

You heard it hear first, you will NOT see any kind of features that the PC GPUs struggle with on next-gen consoles. Period. All the 3d features that are already out is all you'll get. I can see an UE5 demo turning into a game but that's not much better than what we see today tbh.

Wait for PS6/PS7 or XSX3. PC is already showing the max visual tech features you can get and the consoles can't run them all.

Where did the PS5 touch you? Everything will be ok.
 

Abriael_GN

RSI Employee of the Year
Will that help with Horizon 2 and God of War 2 being uprezzed ps4 games?

Nah. For that, you may need a crystal ball, since we have seen no gameplay for either of them.

But you might still need to fix those comprehension issues first. They're holding you back.

I came here for some 'Fuck you Jim' posts.

Anyone?

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Those come in the not-so-rare occasions in which he says something stupid. Not when he says something obvious.
 
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Yoboman

Member
Sounds about right. PS4 had some visual pleasers like Killzone and infamous, but the first really big wow game wasn't until Witcher 3 or maybe even Uncharted 4 IMO
 

NT80

Member
That guy is wishing upon a star.

Those words are so misleading and that's why people expect CGI graphics from nothing but a mid-low end graphics card. It's not in the cards.

All the bandwidth is already taken up in higher pixel count.

You heard it hear first, you will NOT see any kind of features that the PC GPUs struggle with on next-gen consoles. Period. All the 3d features that are already out is all you'll get. I can see an UE5 demo turning into a game but that's not much better than what we see today tbh.

Wait for PS6/PS7 or XSX3. PC is already showing the max visual tech features you can get and the consoles can't run them all.
Apart from the character model and water effects the UE5 demo did look much better than what I see today.
 

rofif

Banned
I kinda hope we won't get slim revision by then or I will regret my purchaes.
I also don't think we will get PRO consoles this gen. Last time we got PRO because jaguar was trash
 
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Well yeah, most 2nd wave PS5 games will be announced next year with a few arriving for holiday 2021.
everything else will be 2022
between then we will get the odd first wave exclusive and cross gen titles
 

hybrid_birth

Gold Member
Not like the language that this guy and you guys speak of. "Generation-defining" ?? Like what? the only thing generation defining is RT and Nanite tech. What else is there expand upon with the LIMITED HARDWARE LIMITS YOU HAVE in these consoles? I've said this over and over again - the CONSOLES DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED POWER.
Your the only one angry and shouting here. I'm sure there's a pc forum somewhere that would appreciate your opinions.

We are comparing the generational leap between ps4 and ps5. Which there is a graphical leap. We are not comparing to pc graphics. We all know pcs have the best graphics.

We don't need hostile reminding by you.
 

Isa

Gold Member
I think Sony's actually playing a pretty complicated game, in placating demand for new content on two platforms whilst juggling internal and external projects. All while securing exclusives(temp or not) that further boost their catalog for potential buyers. As their next-gen efforts continue to build it gives the different consumer bases reasons to invest in new hardware.

Its really just par for the course, especially with PlayStation. Its why I made the jump to PS5. Already got a couple of games that are exclusive. With more on the way throughout next year, and crossgen games will obviously perform better, I think Sony is in a good spot. Considering the current state of the world this is no simple feat. I wish it was next year already so I could finally play a new R&C title, and GT7. Hell if FFXVI were to release next year it'll be one packed awesome time for gamers.
 

ZehDon

Member
Microsoft: “We won’t leave gamers behind”
NeoGAF: “Whelp, Microsoft just lost the next generation. Pathetic - cross gen is garbage. Next gen console exclusives are the only game that matters.”

Jim Ryan: “We believe in generations”
NeoGAF: “Good - we want nothing but next gen exclusives, no cross gen filler that doesn’t let the consoles sing!”

Also Jim Ryan: “We won’t deliver the real next-gen stuff until 2022, and most of our big titles are cross gen”
Also NeoGAF: “Well of course, cross gen only makes sense, it would be bad business not to support cross gen! Jim’s a real straight shooter for telling it like it really is.”

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ethomaz

Banned
Same situation with PS4. Bloodborne (2015) was arguably the first generation-defining title.
I should say Destiny was the first in Sep 2014.

Massive success, supreme gameplay, no game (at last on console) did what it did, every big publisher started to try to create it own Destiny (even today they are trying), etc etc etc.
 
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Ratchet is confirmed PS5 exclusive, the others are or could be

And Naughty Dog need to release TLOU Factions next, which will undoubtedly be based on PS4 tech
Oh right.

You could've just lied to me you know. Had a boner wacking the underside of my desk. No worries mate, it was giving me terrible back pain so I have to thank you for killing the hype I guess.
 
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