LisaMariaMartin
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No one will switch to Gamepass or Xbox if they can just wait a year for a complete edition with all DLC.
Seriously, they can't even get exclusives from their own studios?
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Xbox CFO Talks Bethesda Exclusivity; “We Want Bethesda Content to be First or Better or Best on Xbox Platforms”
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No one will switch to Gamepass or Xbox if they can just wait a year for a complete edition with all DLC.
Seriously, they can't even get exclusives from their own studios?
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
So you read
"Like Phil Spencer, the executive points out that, in the long run, Microsoft doesn’t have intentions to pull content from either Sony or Nintendo. He did state, however, that Microsoft wants Bethesda content to show up the best it can on Xbox platforms, also hinting at some form of timed-exclusivity for Bethesda titles on Xbox. " and though it was going full exclusive and/or referred only to present games?
What is you definition of "in the long run"?
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TKOFromTokyo
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He specifically says he’s not saying anything about exclusivity but that the model will change.
My guess is that it all depends on the success of Xbox and Gamepass. If they are successful, the incremental revenue is not worth supporting the PlayStation brand.
My guess is that it all depends on the success of Xbox and Gamepass. If they are successful, the incremental revenue is not worth supporting the PlayStation brand.
Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
Some xbox fans are setting themselves up for another major disappointment.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
It's free money on the table for anyone who won't buy a new system for the sake of a few games. That's not obsolete. Get the diehards to play it on Xbox/PC then release it to others later down the line.
Starfield being next-generation means hardware and gameplay, says Todd Howard
The next big single-player game from Skyrim and Fallout maker Bethesda Game Studios will be Starfield, the company's fi…www.eurogamer.net
Literally says "that doesn't mean it wouldn't exist on the current systems as well" in the article.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Starfield being next-generation means hardware and gameplay, says Todd Howard
The next big single-player game from Skyrim and Fallout maker Bethesda Game Studios will be Starfield, the company's fi…
THat's from 2 years ago and he doesn't rule out current gen:
"What systems we put it out on - what's the hardware requirements - is still to be determined. We're pushing it; we're thinking very, very far in future so we're building something that will handle next-generation hardware. That's what we're building on right now, that's where our mind is, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't exist on the current systems as well."
I'm nobody
Member
Bungie was once loved u no
No one gives a crap now
Try pin point where I'm coming from
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
excuse me, wtf?
DeepEnigma
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VincentMatts
Member
Guys, if they were 100% xbox console exclusive, they would have said so by now.
Bethesda is a Gamepass exclusive, thats all. They wont be on any other services. But as for consoles, they will be first on xbox, then maybe a year later on ps5.
Mark my words.
Bethesda is a Gamepass exclusive, thats all. They wont be on any other services. But as for consoles, they will be first on xbox, then maybe a year later on ps5.
Mark my words.
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SpongebobSquaredance
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Neko Mimi Mode
Member
They can though? Nobody here is saying Microsoft first party games won't be exclusive.
On the contrary, they haven't even bought Zenimax yet and aren't in a position to say so outright, legally.
Instead of marking your words, how about a ban bet? TES6 console exclusive, not timed, to Xbox. You in?
Thirty7ven
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VincentMatts
Member
Blue Spring
Read my tears about xbox here --->
You have strange way at looking at this. Try to remove yourself from the console war.
Microsoft did not buy Bethesda for 7.5b just for the xbox division to butcher the investment. The heads of Bethesda have a say in this as well.
Some sort of delayed release? Sure. Smaller titles skipping playstation completely? Possible.
But straight up skipping a major plattform like playstation would kneecap Bethesdas biggest IPs and devalue the acquisition hard.
Barry Burton
Member
I think it's worth waiting to see what the language is after Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo release.
LisaMariaMartin
Banned
nowhat
Member
Hey, that's fine, at least it'll give Bethesda time to iron out all the bugs. yeah right
Ass of Can Whooping
Banned
Man just wait until they announce the fucking games to see where they go
Everyone is trying to twist these vague statements to whatever suits their narrative the best
Everyone is trying to twist these vague statements to whatever suits their narrative the best
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Mitsuda Maniac
Member
Good thing that the Doom, Wolfenstein, Fallout, and Elder Scrolls franchises have all taken a nosedive in quality then.
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DarkMage619
$MSFT
Let's see what happens when the sale is final seeing how that still is not true today. MS is already ignoring the PlayStation with regards to Halo, Gears, and Forza so with your logic those games and ALL MS games should all be on PlayStation too. The most important thing is all the major Sony fans here have top of the line gaming PCs so they wouldn't need an Xbox to play all of MS's games. MS could save their efforts just making the Xbox and PC versions and that would cover all their bases.
Why so Sony could make more on gamepass than Microsoft? Gamespass will only be on platforms with zero cut because that is the only way it works. You think gamepass is ever going to be remotely profitable giving Sony 30% off the top lol.
teezzy
Banned
If all they wanted was timed exclusivity, it seems like they could've gotten that for much cheaper than what they paid. Playstation fans never shut up about how their exclusives make their console of choice better.
Xbox might as well release Halo, Forza, Fable, and Gears on Playstation too if they're gonna treat every acquisition like its Minecraft
Xbox might as well release Halo, Forza, Fable, and Gears on Playstation too if they're gonna treat every acquisition like its Minecraft
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SoraNoKuni
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It seems my controversial posts that gather a lot of laugh reactions all end up true in the end.
(Ps5>XsX on multiplats)
(Now this)
I hope I win the lottery please laugh react this.
(Ps5>XsX on multiplats)
(Now this)
I hope I win the lottery please laugh react this.
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SpongebobSquaredance
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Wut?!
Both the comments here and previous comments from MS have been pretty clear. Combine that with common sense which says that no-one spends $7.5b (over-valued) on a multi-platform company only to strip away most of that value by not shipping games on one of the world's most popular platforms, while at the same time putting the entire publisher's games up for "free" on a pre-existing GamePass service (yes doing so will increase GP revenues through subs growth, but not by $7.5b, nor even by the amount needed to cover the depreciation in Zenimax's normal multiplatform sales revenues).
It's ostensibly clear that on the balance of probabilities, Zenimax games will continue to be multiplatform. Otherwise, Zenimax would see mass layoffs on the publisher side and the production operations would be subsumed into MGS with some small element of Zenimax's studio management team retained (because lord knows MGS studio management would make a pigs ear of it).
So trying to equate the two possibilities of future Zenimax games launching on non-Xbox platforms or not as equally probable is woefully disingenuous or just a little ignorant.
Just because there's no concrete confirmation either way, it doesn't mean both possibilities are equally probable. They're not.... and in this case, not even close.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Think Sony would welcome Gamepass with open hearts if it's just first party games. Probably one of the reasons why MS is increasing first party output by so much in the first place.
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Those aren't Bethesda titles though, the article is only specifying Bethesda and not the rest of Zenimax IPs.
He doesn't say that at all.
Phil Spencer announced on literally TV that future games would be a case by case basis and here the CFO says he won't pull existing content from other platforms.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
When the platforms will be announced - we will see. I believe and - close to be sure - that it won't be released on PS5. I mean, nobody questions Netflix when it does not release its movies on Amazon Prime
I believe Amazon would pay Netflix for that for example.The main idea of exclusives is to make the people buy into your ecosystem - even if it is one month. For example, if PS owners will be sure that the game will come to PS, why would they need to buy into the Xbox ecosystem? They can buy on PC of course, but Windows is there anyway. Releasing on PS just allows Sony to sell more consoles rather than inviting anybody to GamePass.
I don't remember the exact scenario, but something similar already happened and basically the games might be available if GamePass will come on PS and not as a separate thing. I am not sure which service did that but sounds familiar.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
I want to LOL this because I found it funny, but sadly LOL now means dislike.
Andodalf
Banned
Wolf 2, Doom Eternal, and TES V, the last mainline entry in each of those franchises, were each highly lauded
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
If Wolfenstein 3 comes before Starfield will that count?
Thirty7ven
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
Read the post again dude. I’m not talking about last gen. Ps5 more than likely tosell the same if not more than PS4.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
That's a pretty gigantic strawman. Halo, Gears and Forza have ALWAYS been Xbox/PC only games. It's not even close to being the same thing. Skyrim is one of the biggest selling multi-platform games of all time and a chunk of that is PS3/PS4/probably PS5 users. It's an existing franchise with a userbase consisting of people across a wide variety of systems.
When the platforms will be announced - we will see. I believe and - close to be sure - that it won't be released on PS5. I mean, nobody questions Netflix when it does not release its movies on Amazon Prime
The main idea of exclusives is to make the people buy into your ecosystem - even if it is one month. For example, if PS owners will be sure that the game will come to PS, why would they need to buy into the Xbox ecosystem? They can buy on PC of course, but Windows is there anyway.
Again, totally different story, Netflix originals are new and unique things that do not have an enormous existing userbase like TES does.
Why wouldn't they wait? Because they want to play the games. Why are people buying PS5s at launch when we know they'll be cheaper and have way more games in the future? We want to play those games now. I absolutely guarantee that if you told many diehards TES fans that they'd have to either buy an Xbox or wait a year, they'd buy the Xbox. But not everyone would. Hence timed is the way to go.
I'd take one with Hix, but my issue is whether or not they even announce that it's a timed exclusive at the time. Surely they can just "change their minds" later, no?
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darthpaxton
Neo Member
I personally think that Xbox will give PlayStation and Nintendo the option of putting GamePass on their platform and when PlayStation or Nintendo says no, they will put it back on them. Outside of that, I don't think the games will hit PlayStation or Nintendo.
Just look at this Phil Spencer interview from October: Spencer told me that “it doesn’t feel sustainable” to consider Xbox games on a case by case basis for Switch and said, “In order to really support it, I would want a full Xbox ecosystem somewhere. And that probably means things like Live and Game Pass and stuff.”
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
If a game was already in development its not going to suddenly become exclusive now.
Timed sure, but not full on "console" exclusive.
But things that are starting after the acquisition (I have no idea how long Beth studios dev cycles are) are likely actually going to be "not on Playstation" exclusive.
Timed sure, but not full on "console" exclusive.
But things that are starting after the acquisition (I have no idea how long Beth studios dev cycles are) are likely actually going to be "not on Playstation" exclusive.
Monkeygourmet
Banned
lol
New Elder Scrolls will 100% land on the PS5 at some point.
New Elder Scrolls will 100% land on the PS5 at some point.
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
By that time I think there will be the same amount of subscribers - or close to that - on GamePass + PC market and also Xbox.
60kk sales? LoL, it will be at most 5-6. Who expects 60 mil copies?
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Money keeps being brought up as the major reason that MS needs Sony's support. Which of these two companies is bigger? When has MS ever needed the PlayStation brand to sell games:? As
teezzy
said if MS wanted a timed exclusive I'm POSITIVE MS could have gotten that for WAY less than 7.5B dollars. Sony got DeathLoop and Ghostwire Tokyo for less. MS isn't trying to build Sony's game library that makes no sense.LisaMariaMartin
Banned
This makes no sense. If Sony had the ability to negotiate timed exclusivity for Starfield, what stops Microsoft from telling their own employees to dump the PS5 build? Don't tell me it's cost because Epic literally flushed a fully working Gears 3 build back then.
This is what it says in the OP:
He can't possibly talk about ESO or F76 because those are already out. How can you get it "first" on Xbox?
This whole interview seems incredibly stupid when you just launched a console with barely any exclusives to play on.
Stuart360
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No, games coming after Starfield. Plus i doubt Wolfensetin will come before. Some people think Starfield is a fall 2021 release.
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FunkMiller
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Good grief. What is it with you and deliberate misreads of people’s posts? I clearly state a potential audience of 60 million Ps5 owners.