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The official Zen 3 with Ryzen 5000 reveal thread

Armorian

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5600X is fucking crazy good. I tried some manual OC but it doesn't make much sense for Ryzens, with PBO set to manual and x10 (and +200MHz) settings this CPU gets up to ~4.8GHz (4.6GHz on auto PBO).

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Finally got my hands on a last-gen AMD cpu so that I can update my bios (new mobo, came with old bios) to support the 5000 series. If all goes according to plan, I'll have my new build fully operational this afternoon. Fingers crossed!
 
What I found most interesting about that video was the temps. I keep hearing the 5800X runs pretty f'ing hot, but it looks like while gaming (which is my primary use) it's not much different than the other two. Yes, he's got a good AIO, but so do I, so that helps settle my concerns.

Well, mine is actually slightly OC’d (4,6Ghz, 1.25vc) and it is running at 45-50ºc, using a Noctua DH-15.

Btw, I noticed AC:V barely relies on CPU, but it drains your GPU
 
Well, mine is actually slightly OC’d (4,6Ghz, 1.25vc) and it is running at 45-50ºc, using a Noctua DH-15.

Btw, I noticed AC:V barely relies on CPU, but it drains your GPU
That's a pretty good temp for gaming, imo. I don't plan to OC mine (seems like the benefits are very minimal in the videos I've seen), but I'll have an Arctic Freezer 2 360mm on it. Looking forward to seeing the improvements I'll get in games like Total War: WH2 over the i7-4790k I have now.
 
So far, the 5800x has been a great pairing with my rtx3080. Played several games and had noticeable improvements over my i7 4790k (duh, I guess). Games are generally a lot smoother - high fps seems to be the same, but the lows and random stutters (likely frame drops) are much improved. Some older games there's just no helping, tho. GTA V still gives bizarro frame drops, while gpu/cpu utilization is relatively low. Eh, what can you do. Either way, very happy with my purchase. Also, it runs pretty cool during gaming - usually in the 40s and 50s *C. Now if I could just get my ram to run at decent timings....

Edit: Also, with the auto-OC feature enabled in the Ryzen Master software, it consistently boosts to 4.95 ghz while doing cpu intensive tasks. Color me impressed!
 
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longdi

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So far, the 5800x has been a great pairing with my rtx3080. Played several games and had noticeable improvements over my i7 4790k (duh, I guess). Games are generally a lot smoother - high fps seems to be the same, but the lows and random stutters (likely frame drops) are much improved. Some older games there's just no helping, tho. GTA V still gives bizarro frame drops, while gpu/cpu utilization is relatively low. Eh, what can you do. Either way, very happy with my purchase. Also, it runs pretty cool during gaming - usually in the 40s and 50s *C. Now if I could just get my ram to run at decent timings....

Edit: Also, with the auto-OC feature enabled in the Ryzen Master software, it consistently boosts to 4.95 ghz while doing cpu intensive tasks. Color me impressed!

Damn! Amd auto-OC is finally working as promised.
Sucks to zen2 users like me, got snooked about the 4.7ghz bluff.
zen2 simply is wip.
zen3 is the real amd deal. :messenger_unamused: :messenger_fistbump:
 

Mhmmm 2077

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Gigabyte/Aorus also released some new BIOS, but sadly, from what I understand, it's in beta (since there is a letter after the version number)?
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screenshot taken on B550 Aorus Elite website - I'm currently on F10 and not sure if it's safe to upgrade the bios to these, seemingly, beta ones.
 
Holy crap, all this time I thought none of the website I looked at had any 5600 in stock... and thanks to Armorian's posts above I found out it's still "only" a Ryzen 5 lol, no wonder I couldn't see any when I filtered to Ryzen 7 and 9, I feel super dumb now (but it makes some choices for my soon-to-be next build much easier).

Now I need to find out which kind of cooler would be enough for one...
 

longdi

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So I bumped this thread to post some of my recent observations. In some new games Zen 3 is just dominating competition

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But seeing almost no difference between 6 and 12 core cpus shows that game engines are still shit in multithreading

how accruate are these tests, or how are they tested?

kinda insane going from ryzen 3000 to 5000 had such a big leap, like mid gen gpu refresh.
 

Armorian

Banned
Holy crap, all this time I thought none of the website I looked at had any 5600 in stock... and thanks to Armorian's posts above I found out it's still "only" a Ryzen 5 lol, no wonder I couldn't see any when I filtered to Ryzen 7 and 9, I feel super dumb now (but it makes some choices for my soon-to-be next build much easier).

Now I need to find out which kind of cooler would be enough for one...

5600x comes with the cooler, it should be a ought and you can always use precision boos overdrive 2 to undervolt it (like i did). And based on the charts for now 6 core and CPUs are top notch, maybe some years from now 8 cores will be needed but by that time we will have zen 5 or something...
 

Armorian

Banned
how accruate are these tests, or how are they tested?

kinda insane going from ryzen 3000 to 5000 had such a big leap, like mid gen gpu refresh.

I personally tested jump from 3600 to 5600x and it was more than 20% in CPU heavy scene in Jedi Fallen Order (and that 3600 was after OC). This is not suprising: IPC, clock and latency differences make up this performance uplift


Their GPU tests are pretty much ~other outlests so they look ok, they're not Nvidia or AMD fanboys like some sites...

This is the only benchmarking site (that I'm aware of) that tests CPUs in every game, other places just test new CPUs in the same sample of games so we don't really know how ~90% of titles work on Intel and AMD cpus. Results are suprising even for me.
 

Xyphie

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how accruate are these tests, or how are they tested?

kinda insane going from ryzen 3000 to 5000 had such a big leap, like mid gen gpu refresh.

GameGPU benchmarks are definitely interpolated somehow, no way they test +30 different CPUs with +30 different GPUs in three different resolutions with RT Off/On, the test matrix is simply too big.
 
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